Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

@hightor,

DeMint has remained very active over these last years but just much more behind the scenes.

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I see Senile Slobberin' Don is in panic mode, which is why Lash is posting how it's really unfair that Biden dropped out of the race.

Harris is a progressive, something Lash claims to be, but she's really just Slobberin' Don's mouthpiece.

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@thack45,

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We are very much in the 'throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" phase of this monumental upending. But it's odd to see it all come on at once like this; churning new conspiracies, accusations and lies, scrambling to edit the narrative.

Exactly. I knew they'd be caught somewhat flat footed but the degree of incompetence has surprised me. Hannity, for example, attacked her for her position on plastic straws. He was outraged. He loves his plastic straws. Conway fell to the racist dog whistle of describing Harris as an "inarticulate" and lazy black female. Trump, as we've noted earlier, couldn't even come up with anything to say about her at all, merely continuing to say his typical slanders of Biden.

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One thing I can say is (not really related, but whatever), the prospect of the optics of the DNC is a whole lot sunnier since Biden dipped out.

I think we all feel the same way about this shift.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

The concern is that this was done against the will of the sitting president—ignoring protocols. People want Biden to show his face and say to a camera that this was his decision. Trying to wave away the obvious oddity of this event after the contradictory back and forth prior to this oddly delivered announcement makes this specific event unprecedented.

In the same letter where Biden announced his withdrawal from the race, he also said will speak to the nation later this week, presumably in a televised statement.

And there is some mixed messaging from the conservatives claiming coup concerns: so Biden is too feeble to run for president (as Trump and co. said for months) but Biden is also too feeble to withdrawal on his own from the race (???).

My take is that Biden did want to run for another term, but he saw the writing on the wall (fallout from the debate, donors being hesitant, Dem leaders calling for a new candidate) and formally withdrawn.

Not everything needs a conspiracy.

Lash wrote:

It’s obvious why. I have no idea who. Have no worries. I always say what I mean.

Can you state the obvious, please? I haven't been in this thread for the past few months and I may have missed something.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

I knew they'd be caught somewhat flat footed

Once the dust settles and everything feels about the same as before – just with new conspiracies, accusations and lies, focus has to go back to Trump's agenda; Project 2025. Seeing Trump try to hide from his own agenda is the most flat footed I'd ever seen him look.

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@izzythepush,

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Harris is a progressive, something Lash claims to be

Anyone who was tempted to imagine Lash's posture of sincere progressivism doesn't know her history here or has forgotten it. It began suddenly when Sanders was competing with Hillary and then a second time when Sanders and Biden were competing. Other right wing agitators employed this same bad faith strategy on social media as a means to damage the Democratic Party and liberal governance. As I've noted before, the precedent example of this was when Clinton and Obama were contesting the nomination and the GOP designed a large social media presence (on MySpace) where agents were promoting themselves as liberals and Hillary supporters deeply offended by Obama's alleged sexism. It was so bad, so anti-female, that they said the only option was to support McCain instead. Slandering Dems is what Lash always does. Take the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband as a shining Maxwell's Silver Hammer example.

Above she mentions her devotion to the idea and policies of healthcare for all but only one party has had any intention of improving access to healthcare for those of lesser means and it isn't Republicans. JD Vance (along with many others in his party) wants to totally eviscerate such socialist programs and she's never mentioned nor complained about that. She operates here (and likely elsewhere) as a right wing troll. She's totally predictable. She's not said a peep sincerely positive about Biden and now she has nothing sincerely positive about Harris.

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@thack45,

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focus has to go back to Trump's agenda; Project 2025.

Yes. And it will, tied into Trump's explicit admiration of authoritarianism. Along with acute concentration on abortion and other women's/minorities/younger people's issues and rights.

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@blatham,

I know her history full well, and I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but that became untenable years ago.

This is not a coup, Biden wasn't forced out, he saw the writing on the wall and decided to put country first.

Pressure was put on him but if he had dug his heels in and insisted on running there was nothing anyone could do.

It's not unprecedented, over here Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss were all replaced without an election, and only Johnson,Wilson and Thatcher had any kind 9f leadership contest.

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@izzythepush,

Yes. Biden's decision is entirely understandable. Indeed, it is incredibly admirable. I have nothing but admiration for Ruth Bader Ginsburg except her failure to resign towards the end of her life.

As many others have been saying, the contrast between Biden's recent decision to step away for the good of the nation stands in stark contrast with Trump's attempts to remain in (or regain) power for his own self interested goals while not giving a damn at all for the nation.

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@izzythepush,

Harris is NOWHERE in the universe of Progressive which is why she has 0 CA support and 1% of black support and dropped out first in a field of nobodies—the least popular nobody.

I’m voting for the only anti genocide, anti war, anti Zionist in the race.

🥳

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@Rebelofnj,

No. I just said it here today.

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@Lash,

Who, in your opinion, is that?

You'll be voting for the most far right candidate, like you always have.

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@blatham,

I have pointed out that when NHS doctors went on strike about chronic underfunding, Lash used it as an excuse to attack UHC in general.

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@izzythepush,

I’m voting for Jill Stein as I did in 2016.
Voted Green in 2020 though was unhappy with their standard bearer that year.

I’m in touch with her CM this year and worked for months helping them with ballot access. Believe it. Don’t believe it. But I’m having a blast.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I know her history full well, and I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but that became untenable years ago.

This is not a coup, Biden wasn't forced out, he saw the writing on the wall and decided to put country first.

Pressure was put on him but if he had dug his heels in and insisted on running there was nothing anyone could do.

It's not unprecedented, over here Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss were all replaced without an election, and only Johnson,Wilson and Thatcher had any kind 9f leadership contest.

It is not even unprecedented here in the US, either.

President Lyndon Johnson withdrew from the 1968 race after seeing his support erode and his health weakening, allowing Democrats to choose another candidate.

Similarly, President Harry S Truman withdrew from the 1952 race fairly early.

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We knew we'd hear something from this jackass. The obvious gambit is to try to drive down black voter turnout for her candidacy and to encourage GOP voters to not give up hope now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTHHqrrXYAA93wN?format=jpg&name=small

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it seems that though the Republicans were unprepared, others hadn't made that mistake.

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Rick Klein@rickklein
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Kamala Harris' super PAC launches 1st campaign ad targeting Trump over Roe v. Wade - ABC News

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@Lash,

The person diluting the progressive vote and helping Trump.

You had a problem with Greens winning European seats but have no problem with the American equivalent.

If this were any other election you might have a point about Stein, but Trump is the real threat to democracy and law and order, a terrifyingly senile cross between Hitler, Neville Chamberlain and Mother Theresa.

Harris is hidebound to Biden, she's not had achance to set out her own personal vision which I suspect will be far less pro Israel than Biden's.

The Democrats have been reinvigorated, and have snatched the momentum.

I fully support Harris, she seems very decent, although I would support anyone 9ver Senile Slobberin' Don.

Isn't 71 a bit old for president?

She'll be 75 by the time her term would end.

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Trump's own VP, who obviously had a long and close working relationship and knows the man and his motivations, personality, etc writes a very telling tweet:

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Mike Pence@Mike_Pence
President Joe Biden made the right decision for our country and I thank him for putting the interests of our Nation ahead of his own. After the assassination attempt on President Trump and President Biden’s decision to end his campaign, now is a time for leaders in both parties to project calm and send a message of strength and resolve to America’s friends and enemies alike that, whatever the state of our politics, the American people are strong and our American military stands ready to defend our freedom and our vital national interests anywhere in the world.
7:08 AM · Jul 22, 2024
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The European Greens have been infiltrated to the degree that they pursue punitive laws and regs on the people rather than corporations to improve green policies—which is a huge sign to me they’re bullshit.

The burden should be squarely on corporations.

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Definitely feeling Bret today.

Bret Weinstein
@BretWeinstein
3h

What happened to the Democratic Party over my lifetime is breathtaking and terrifying. It went from the party of working Americans, to a 2nd corporate party, to a subsidiary of the deep state. It was fully corrupted in phase two, but that doesn’t come close to explaining it now.
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