@oralloy,
I refute your claims and I am right.
@neptuneblue,
You have not provided anything to refute anything that I've said.
@oralloy,
You've often said you'd provide citations when asked. That's a lie.
Well, this has certainly turned out to be an interesting discussion.
@roger,
Roger, "discussion" is kind of a stretch I do believe.
Here are some adjectives for discussion: quick and expensive, brief follow-on, considerable sartorial,
long and sufficiently idiotic,
interminable and apparently fruitless, judicious and balanced, slightly lengthy, informal roundtable, animated but fruitless, open and frequent, exciting and crucial,
long and semihysterical, sufficiently idiotic...
Never mind!
Speaking of John Boehner...
Boehner lays blame for 'that bloody insurrection' at Trump's feet
By Chandelis Duster, CNN
Updated 7:58 PM ET, Wed April 7, 2021
(CNN)Former House Speaker John Boehner said former President Donald Trump "incited that bloody insurrection" at the US Capitol and blamed his false election claims for the GOP losing control of Congress, according to a copy of his forthcoming book obtained by CNN.
Republicans have wobbled over whether to embrace the 45th President's legacy as an electoral strategy, and Boehner's scathing rebuke amounts to the latest plea by the former de facto head of the GOP to resist Trump's influence as it defines itself in the Biden era.
Trump's "refusal to accept the result of the election not only cost Republicans the Senate but led to mob violence," the former speaker writes in his forthcoming book, "On the House: A Washington Memoir," adding, "It was painful to watch."
Boehner also said the former president "incited that bloody insurrection for nothing more than selfish reasons, perpetuated by the bullshit he'd been shoveling since he lost a fair election the previous November."
"He claimed voter fraud without any evidence, and repeated those claims, taking advantage of the trust placed in him by his supporters and ultimately betraying that trust," Boehner said.
Jason Miller, an adviser to Trump, called Boehner a "Swamp Creature" in a statement to CNN on Wednesday and suggested the former speaker's criticism was motivated by business interests with China. Boehner is a senior strategic adviser with Squire Patton Boggs, a large law firm that has offices in the US and across the globe, including China.
The passages were first reported on by The New York Times and later confirmed by CNN. The Times reported that Trump asked in an email to the paper about Boehner, "Was he drinking when he made this statement? Just another RINO who couldn't do the job!"
Boehner also wrote he wasn't prepared for Trump "refusing to accept the results and stoking the flames of conspiracy that turned into violence in the seat of our democracy" in the building he once presided over. "Watching it was scary, and sad. It should have been a wake-up call for a return to Republican sanity."
Boehner resigned as House speaker in late 2015 amid clashes with the growing conservative caucus of the Republican Party. Since then, he has occasionally publicly voiced disillusionment with the GOP under Trump's influence, saying in 2018, "There is no Republican Party. There's a Trump Party."
Meanwhile, Trump continues to exert significant pressure on the direction of the current Republican Party, which overwhelmingly voted to acquit him in this year's impeachment trial for his role in inciting the January 6 riot. Several leading Republicans have met with Trump, and the 45th president has announced plans to be an active participant in the midterm elections, including with his endorsement of Rep. Mo Brooks in the Alabama US Senate race on Wednesday.
@roger,
Was it really? Yours is the first post I've seen in almost two pages.
@lmur,
Someone needs to flush the bog.
Quote:And to understand why the seduction works, we cannot look at the strongmen alone; we also need to consider the people who fall under their spell.
This is a key argument made by University of Manitoba Professor Bob Altemeyer in his research on authoritarianism. He also sees the problem as two-sided: the authoritarian personality and the segment of a population who desire (or respond positively to) such a figure. John Dean, in Conservatives Without Conscience lays this out quite clearly.
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Someone needs to flush the bog.
Missed an "l" Izzy, that s/b "b
log"!
@BillW,
That might work too, but I meant bog, that’s one of our slang terms for a lavatory.
@izzythepush,
That's a new one, makes sense though! I had figured you did mean bog, and bogs do get cleared for a purpose too. Isn't English wonderful. I love language.
Look at this. Now Faux Noise has hired - wait for it - the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo as a paid on-air contributor.
Who - who, I ask ya - woulda thunk it
https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-mike-pompeo/
@BillW,
You’ve clearly not heard Derek and Clive which is probably a good thing.
Dudley Moore was a lot cruder when he got drunk with Peter Cook.
Cook: Jesus was probably being misreported, he never said take up thy bed and walk.
Moore: He said, “Where’s the ******* bog? I’m dying mate, I’m dying.”
Joe Manchin just crushed liberals' dream for Joe Biden's first term
If ever anyone needs to primaried Joe Manchin needs it bad. There should be big united effort by democrats to run him out of the senate.
@snood,
Oh thank God, I was afraid that Fox would run out of preening, self-satisfied, arrogant, blow-hards..............now we will have access to that horses ass Pompeo. Whew, that was a close call.
@oralloy,
Since you never lie and always present the facts, I hope you can settle this odd exchange you had with Hightor. Your sentence presents your relative as a horse thief and the murder victim was a sheriff your relative shot in the back of the head. You seemed pretty proud of the gun used by the murderer and mentioned how your family loves to pose with it. Think about it, are you really saying your relative was a horse thief AND a murder victim????....
I reposted the troubling sentences here to help you out:
hightor wrote:
You claimed some horse-thieving relative murdered a sheriff but you never offered any proof even when challenged.
You are lying and being deliberately offensive. My relative was the murder victim, and was killed by the horse thief.
The below comments are what I remembered (without double checking) from your boasting in the past:
He apparently has changed this story since his first telling, years earlier he was simply bursting with pride about how clever grandpappy was to sneak up and cowardly shoot someone in the back. (some people might describe PeePaw as a cop killer)