As the Guardian says, Dominion did well, but Fox could have done a lot worse. Not that the legal show is over for either of them (but at least they won't be sharing a courtroom).
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Tue 18 Apr, 2023 10:55 pm
@Lash,
Lash, Are you implying that you (admire) the National Guardsman suspected of leaking classified docs?
CNN — A member of the Massachusetts Air National Guard was arrested by the FBI on Thursday in connection with the leaking of classified documents that have been posted online, according to a US official familiar with the matter. The arrest of Jack Teixeira, 21, comes following a fast-moving search by the US government for the identity of the leaker who posted classified documents to a social media platform popular with video gamers.
Teixeira had been identified by The New York Times ahead of his arrest Thursday as the leader of the group where a trove of classified documents was posted.
Thu 13 Apr, 2023 04:50 pm, I pose this question:
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How long before he's raised to the status of "heroic whistleblower" by the MAGA mob?
And, sure enough, Lash shows up at Sat 15 Apr, 2023 10:02 pm and replying to Rebelofnj, posts this:
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No, a whistleblower is being smeared by the government agencies who’ve been lying to the public and their allies about the facts around the Ukraine War.
Of course she admires the leaking of classified documents. She's so predictable, and her contrarian pose so useful, that if she didn't exist we'd have had to invent her!
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Wed 19 Apr, 2023 03:09 am
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Fox News was set up as a propaganda network from beginning. It has repeatedly lied to American public and finally they had to pay the piper to tune of $787.5 million and admit to the public they did lie. This should send a strong message to the other Fox News clones out there; they can lie but they can be held accountable in a court of law for lying. The ¾ of a billion settlement may be enough to bankrupt Fox News. Rupert Murdock understands that lying is Fox News’ method of operation and if you tell the truth you are terminated like the employee that called Arizona for Biden. He should have known better than to tell the truth.
Trump did everything in his power to make America like Russia. Putin has convinced Russians that there is no such thing as the truth, it is only what you believe. This makes the second multi-million-dollar settlement this year for lying to the public. Alex Jones insisted on his program that no children were killed at Sandy Hook that it was staged by crisis actors to discredit the NRA. The parents are seeking more than the $1.4 billion awarded them. Who is Jones really trying to discredit with his lies? The government Jones wants to discredit the American government so anytime the American people hear anything from the government they won’t believe. Lies are weapons just like knives, they do lasting damage.
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Wed 19 Apr, 2023 06:17 am
@Real Music,
Yes, I am grateful to Ellsberg, Assange, Snowden, and the kid in the red shorts for exposing corruption against the American people by our shitty government.
Yes, I am grateful to Ellsberg, Assange, Snowden, and the kid in the red shorts for exposing corruption against the American people by our shitty government.
Kind of remarkable to put "jackthedripper"/"excalibureffect"/"OG" in the same category with e.g. Assange. Actually deeply insulting to all the people listed above.
But the main thing is to post something negative for the USA and insulting for others.
Nothing to see here. The whole "Russiagate" thing was concocted by the DNC and Soros:
Kremlin agents meddled in Florida election with eyes on presidential race: indictment
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A federal grand jury charged four U.S. citizens and three Russian nationals with working with Kremlin intelligence services to conduct a multiyear political influence campaign.
The superseding indictment alleges that Russian national Aleksandr Viktorovich Ionov, founder of the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia (AGMR), used his organization under the direction of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and three Moscow-based intelligence officers to recruit, fund and direct pro-Kremlin propaganda within the U.S. with the help of four Florida-based activists.
Ionov recruited four St. Petersburg members of the African People’s Socialist Party and the Uhuru Movement, which have been active in civil rights for decades in Florida, and another political group in California to generate support for Russia's annexation of Ukraine and other Kremlin priorities.
The indictment charges APSP chairman and founder Omali Yeshitela, APSP group leader Penny Joanne Hess, APSP member and former St. Petersburg mayoral candidate Jesse Nevel; and APSP leader and Black Hammer founder Augustus C. Romain Jr., also known as Gazi Kodzo.
The operation also involved Moscow-based FSB officers Aleksey Borisovich Sukhodolov and Yegor Sergeyevich Popov, who were also charged in the indictment.
Ionov, Sukhodolov and Popov allegedly conspired to secretly fund and "supervise" a local 2019 race in St. Petersburg, which Popov referred to as "our election campaign," hoped that those efforts would extend beyond that cycle and eventually include the U.S. presidential election -- the FSB’s “main topic of the year.”
The operation also worked to create the appearance of American popular support for Russia's annexation of Ukraine, which included a video statement from Yeshitela congratulating the Russia-backed breakaway state called Donetsk People’s Republic, and APSP frequently hosted Ionov on video conferences to discuss the Kremlin invasion of Ukraine.
Ionov, Sukhodolov, Popov, Yeshitela, Hess, Nevel and Romain were charged with conspiring to have U.S. citizens act as illegal agents of the Russian government within the U.S. without providing prior notification to the attorney general, as required by law, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison if convicted.
Yeshitela, Hess and Nevel are also charged with acting as agents of Russia within the U.S. without such prior notification, which carries a possible 10-year term if convicted.
The Fox News Channel won a 2004 court case allowing the cable channel to lie to viewers.
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Rumors have circulated since at least 2009 claiming that the Fox News cable television channel fought successfully in court for the right to lie, misinform, or deceive viewers. The claim that Fox News legally won the "right to lie" has been repeated across the internet despite its being factually inaccurate on more than one level.
First, the case from which the rumor stemmed resulted in a Florida appeals court ruling in February 2003, not 2004. More germane to the rumor, however, is the fact that the case at hand did not involve the national Fox News Channel; rather, it was a breach of contract lawsuit filed by two reporters against their former employer, Tampa Bay television station WTVT. (The situation was somewhat more complicated because WTVT was an affiliate of the Fox television network and was also owned by Fox, but the Fox television network and the Fox News Channel are two distinctly different entities.)
The legal battle to which the rumor refers was about a husband-and-wife reporting team, Jane Aker and Steve Wilson, who in 1996 put together a story about the use of the Monsanto-produced synthetic bovine growth hormone (BGH) Posilac by Florida dairy farmers. WTVT's management asserted that the reporters' BGH piece was alarmist and one-sided and ordered the reporters to edit their story to produce a more "balanced" piece. Aker and Wilson defied those orders; as a result, the BGH story never aired, and the pair were terminated by WTVT in 1997.
The two reporters sued the station for breach of contract and retaliatory firing the following year, maintaining that they had been unfairly terminated from their jobs for "resisting WTVT's attempts to distort or suppress the BGH story" at the behest of Fox corporate and Monsanto, and that the station's management had fired them in retaliation over their threats to file a complaint about WTVT's "deliberate news distortion" to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC):
In September 1997, WTVT notified Akre and Wilson that it was exercising its option to terminate their employment contracts without cause. Akre and Wilson responded in writing to WTVT threatening to file a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission ("FCC" alleging that the station had "illegally" edited the still unfinished BGH report in violation of an FCC policy against federally licensed broadcasters deliberately distorting the news. The parties never resolved their differences regarding the content of the story, and consequently, the story never aired.
In April 1998, Akre and Wilson sued WTVT alleging, among other things, claims under the whistle-blower's statute. Those claims alleged that their terminations had been in retaliation for their resisting WTVT's attempts to distort or suppress the BGH story and for threatening to report the alleged news distortion to the FCC. Akre also brought claims for declaratory relief and for breach of contract. After a four-week trial, a jury found against Wilson on all of his claims. The trial court directed a verdict against Akre on her breach of contract claim, Akre abandoned her claim for declaratory relief, and the trial court let her whistle-blower claims go to the jury. The jury rejected all of Akre's claims except her claim that WTVT retaliated against her in response to her threat to disclose the alleged news distortion to the FCC. The jury awarded Akre $425,000 in damages.
Another common misconception is that Fox News invoked First Amendment protections in order to retain the "right to lie" during the lengthy legal battle between the couple and the Florida Fox affiliate. There was no mention of any such claim in the appeals court decision, and Akre herself does not corroborate it. Ultimately, the FCC concluded in 2007 that the conflict between Akre and Wilson and the affiliate boiled down to an "editorial dispute ... rather than a deliberate effort by [WTVT] to distort news."
The "right to lie" claims are similar to another false story about Fox News' trustworthiness, that the network was banned in Canada because it does not meet stringent Canadian broadcast standards for truthfulness.
Russia is currently trying to gain an overview of offshore wind farms, gas pipelines and undersea electricity and internet cables in the waters around the northern European states with a spy programme.
In addition to military-flagged ships, various civilian vessels are also being used.
According to the report quoted below, the aim of the espionage is to carry out possible acts of sabotage against the Nordic states, such as destroying the submarine cables to Europe or North America. In the event of a conflict with the West, Russia knows how to paralyse Danish society, Danish broadcaster DK quoted an employee of the Danish domestic intelligence service PET. A Norwegian intelligence officer also expressed alarm.
The wind power infrastructure is important for the region's electricity supply. According to the Danish channel DR, the Russian ships are also targeting gas pipelines, electricity and internet cables. The aim is probably "to plan sabotage against the Nordic countries", possibly also against transatlantic cables. Gotland in particular is also affected by Swedish concerns about Russian attacks, especially in view of the country's failure to join NATO.
The preparations are "central" to Russian preparations for a major conflict with the West, DR quoted its sources as saying. "This is a strategic capacity for Russia that is seen as very important and is directly controlled from Moscow," Norwegian intelligence chief Nils Andreas Stensønes told the broadcaster.
Putin is accordingly likely to be aware of the missions. Most recently, he had commented on a manoeuvre of the Russian fleet in the Pacific - making it clear that the units could be used "in all directions".
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bobsal u1553115
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Wed 19 Apr, 2023 07:40 am
@Lash,
Ellsberg, Assange, Snowden, and the kid in the red shorts do not belong in the same league.
Ellsberg, and even Chelsea Manning, get my respect for standing up and facing the music, they stand and prove their claims. Sometimes jail is part of the result, as in Manning's case.
The rest were out for less than noble causes. Part of whistle blowing requires standing and stating your case. If they didn't break laws because of the public's right and need to know over rides law, they needed to stand and defend.
Red Shorts kid did it to show off, thinking his coterie of gamer incels would never never leak out his collection of stolen intelligence cache. He actually thought no one would ever know and that is not whistle blowing - that's sophistry. This allowed Russian intelligence to find it to use another American traitor to pass around altered pages of intelligence to the rest of the world.
Surely you do not think Russian State intelligence are whistle blowers, do you???
Sometimes you sound like a Russian intelligence misinformation operation yourself.
Doesn't it kill you when she acts as though she is the only aware and knowledgeable person on the planet? Legend in her own mind. I've finally given up on her.
