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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2023 11:56 pm
@hightor,
More generally, the declining volume of industrial action (compared to the 50's and 50*s) is also a consequence of the fact that in a networked industry with low stockholding, even small-scale action can cause considerable economic damage.

Strikes in the public sector are of course also particularly noticeable, as more or less everyone is affected.

In addition, many people have not experienced a strike culture or have forgotten it.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 12:14 am
@hightor,
I am.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 02:54 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Britain has experienced nursesz’ strikes and other union strikes. The govt attempting to block their right to do so.
That's indeed something the Conservatives like to do - perhaps you remember the Winter of Discontent of 1978.

(I don't think anyone has any personal memories of that, but the 1775 Liverpool Seamen's revolt was even more powerful, especially against the background of this time period.)
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 05:10 am
@Lash,
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I am.

Yeah, sure you are. And really effectively, I bet. Sharing tweets online is such a show of commitment. Insulting people who don't share your narrow outlook is so edgy. And protesting is so productive. How about "Occupy Wall Street"? Wow, that really shook up the system. Turning to an international perspective, Walter asked if you remembered the Winter of Discontent of 1978. Do you remember the "Arab Spring"? When do you see your domestic intifada being put into action?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 05:11 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

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Oralloy's scurrilous malign fantasies about progressives got at least 4 threads locked.

To my mind, the most consequential failures of social media arise from protecting anonymity and the web-culture reluctance to permanently remove repeat offenders of sites' rules. Trolls and bots walk right in that open door and disinformation/misinformation along with incivility have become significant elements threatening democracy.




When I first started making public comments many years ago, I did so via letters-to-the-editor of newspapers and national magazines. The rules were simple...no comment or thought was published unless the individual making the comments included their name, address, and phone number. Only the name and city were published. The phone number was used to verify that the sender of the letter actually existed and lived where they said they did. There were very, very infrequent allowances for anonymity (for valid reasons), but other than that, EVERY comment was made by someone identified.

I think that should be the case now. Nobody HAS TO COMMENT, so if a person wants not to comment, he/she doesn't have to.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 05:14 am
@hightor,
The Winter of Discontent resulted in a Tory party winning the electionin 79.

That resulted in the harshest anti union legislation of the 20th Century.

They really shot themselves in the foot over that one.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 05:19 am
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Today, meetings began to take place before the Munich Security Conference begins in Berlin, Germany, on February 17. This conference is the world’s leading forum for talking about international security policy. Begun in 1963, it was designed to be an independent venue for experts and policymakers to discuss the most pressing security issues around the globe.

Vice President Kamala Harris will attend the conference from February 16 to 18 and is expected to talk about the continuing support of the United States for Ukraine. The anniversary of Russia’s 2022 assault on Ukraine is February 24, and today NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned that Russians have already begun their threatened major new offensive.

Indeed, Ukraine is at the heart of the conference this year. The Munich Security Report 2023, issued recently as a blueprint for the conference, begins by identifying Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine as “a watershed moment.”

“Debates about different visions for the future international order are often abstract and theoretical,” the report begins, but “by invading Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has made the clash of competing visions a brutal and deathly reality.”

The report goes on to identify a growing conflict around the globe between intensifying authoritarian regimes and a liberal, rules-based international order. It calls for shoring up that liberal order and for strengthening it by addressing the legitimate claims of countries and regions that have been excluded from that order or have even been victims of it. That many governments in Africa, Latin America, and Asia have refused to speak up against Russian aggression shows that there is deep dissatisfaction there with existing international patterns, and that dissatisfaction threatens the survival of democracy. The people of all countries must have a say in how the global future plays out.

The report notes that Russia’s “brutal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign state” is “an attack against the foundational principles of the post–World War II order,” with “an authoritarian power” setting out “to eliminate a democracy.” But that’s not the only sign that autocracies are rising. China’s quiet support for Russia, its attempt to assert its own sphere of influence in East Asia through military shows of force, and its wide-ranging efforts “to promote an autocratic alternative to the liberal, rules-based international order” show the broad challenge of autocratic rule. “[T]he main fault line in global politics today,” the report suggests, is “that between democracies and dictators.”

Many world leaders believe that the next ten years will lay down the blueprint for the future of the international order, the report says, and it credits Ukraine and the “extraordinary resilience and determination of the Ukrainian people” with instilling “a new sense of purpose into democratic countries.” The report encourages democracies to use this momentum to re-envision the liberal, rules-based order to include countries that previously were excluded from the rulemaking. A new order “that better delivers on its promises” and “truly benefits everyone equally” has the potential to increase the coalition of those resisting autocracy. “If the revisionist moment we are currently experiencing spurs the renewal of this liberal, rules-based order,” it suggests, “President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the people of Ukraine will have played a big part in this achievement.”

The conference organizers did not invite Russian government officials to participate in this year’s meeting, saying, "We do not want to offer a stage for those who have stamped over international law." But they did invite more leaders from emerging economies, vowing to get past the idea of an event where Europeans and Americans just talked to each other.

In a sign that many relationships are now in flux, the Chinese foreign ministry said today that China's top diplomat, Wang Yi, will go to the conference and will also visit France, Italy, Hungary, and Russia. China has been embarrassed recently by the exposure of what seems to have been an extensive spying program run by the Chinese military that included countries on five continents.

Meanwhile, in the U.S., the attention the Republican-controlled House Oversight Committee has been paying to what committee chair James Comer (R-KY) says on his website has been the Biden family’s “pattern of peddling access to the highest levels of government to enrich themselves, often to the detriment of U.S. interests,” has resurrected questions about the connections of the Trump family and Saudi leader Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Popularly known as MBS, the Saudi leader in 2021 transferred $2 billion to a private equity firm that Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner created the day after he left the White House.

In an op-ed today in Time magazine, a former associate of Trump ally Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas, who had been part of the attempt to smear Hunter Biden in Ukraine, said that his “real job was to help undermine and destabilize the Ukrainian government.” Parnas was convicted of fraud, making false statements, and illegally funneling foreign money to the Trump campaign.

“I eventually realized,” he said, “that not only was I enabling Trump’s dirty tricks in the 2020 election, I was also risking that Ukraine would be essentially unarmed when Putin invaded.”

hcr
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 07:22 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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I am.

Yeah, sure you are. And really effectively, I bet. Sharing tweets online is such a show of commitment. Insulting people who don't share your narrow outlook is so edgy.
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You’re talking about yourself here—and your little cadre off VBNMW. The treatment of the new conservative was a new low. I only return insult infrequently. Projecting shamelessly and dishonestly.

And protesting is so productive. How about "Occupy Wall Street"? Wow, that really shook up the system. Turning to an international perspective, Walter asked if you remembered the Winter of Discontent of 1978. Do you remember the "Arab Spring"? When do you see your domestic intifada being put into action?

I’m doing what I consider to be my part as an American to speak against my country’s slide to authoritarianism.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 07:57 am
CSX reaches agreement with unions to provide paid sick leave. While this isn't every company, the pressure will now be intense on the smaller companies to step up. This was something the Biden administration was dinged on, for not supporting a rail strike, but it looks like negotiations were still going on s0mewhere. This seems like another quiet administration win, labor gets what they deserve without a paralyzing strike that would have turned the public against them.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 08:05 am
@Lash,
You're polishing the slide.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 08:18 am
Can someone translate this for me?
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...and your little cadre off VBNMW


And this one?
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The treatment of the new conservative was a new low.


This is amusing:
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I only return insult infrequently. Projecting shamelessly and dishonestly.

I already called you on that one:

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Truly, their propaganda-induced psychosis is like a Jim Jones Kool-Aid drinking party.


I hope everyone makes note of the irony on display as someone who breathlessly and unapologetically posts every stinking canard concocted by the Fox/GOP/anti-vax geyser of misinformation – the Seth Rich story, videos by Stew Peters and Dr. John Campbell, articles by washed up bureaucrats with a with an axe to grind, the attack on Paul Pelosi, and probably one on the high altitude balloons as soon as there's an alt-right crackpot theory she can copy and post here – projects her confusion, dishonesty, and despair on those who question and refute her "propaganda-induced psychosis".



engineer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 08:36 am
@hightor,
VBNMW -> Vote Blue No Matter Who
"The treatment of the new conservative" -> Some other thread where someone was spouting off and get flamed in return, although this is a valid point. Sometimes the new folks get flamed pretty intensely for some basic stuff.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 09:20 am
@engineer,
I read the new conservative’s comments. They were definitely espousing conservative views, but I didn’t see them use personal insult. This group has begun to behave as though views that differ from their *are* personal insults.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 09:47 am
@engineer,
Not over here, the Conservatives are blue.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 10:07 am
@engineer,
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Sometimes the new folks get flamed pretty intensely for some basic stuff.

The character presented himself in such a way as to make himself unlikable very quickly. He shows up on a thread where people are already arguing and immediately takes one side. Two hours later he starts his own thread and, knowing how discussions deteriorate from his earlier experience, starts right off ranting about the "murder of unborn babies".

If people truly wish to have a discussion about a contentious topic they'd have more success by not immediately taking an extreme position and suggesting that those who disagree are "disgusting" and that their views shouldn't be "blatantly touted". Especially on a small platform where new threads are prominent and opposition is expected. I don't mind him asking his question – "What about those I 'Heart' abortion pins" – but his original post showed that he wasn't interested in a reasoned approach to the topic. I wouldn't walk into a Boston sports bar and begin by praising Bucky Dent or insulting the Yaz.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 11:52 am
@hightor,
Lol, we instantly know who we are discussing without ever using a name. Yeah, that user had it coming, but there are others who get flamed quickly. I think some users assume everyone new is a sock puppet and take it to ten right off the bat.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 11:54 am
@Lash,
If you see something like that, go ahead and report it. Even if the mods don't take action immediately, you can establish a pattern of behavior.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 03:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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The rules were simple...no comment or thought was published unless the individual making the comments included their name, address, and phone number. Only the name and city were published. The phone number was used to verify that the sender of the letter actually existed and lived where they said they did.

Yes. Salon once published something I'd written to them but first asked for my phone # then called me. Of course, social media is a quite different creature with different motivations and different incentives but the way it has evolved has, it seems to me, a raft of negative consequences which may prove it to be more destructive than beneficial. All this keeping in mind that there would have been folks my age in the 1400s who thought Gutenberg was opening the doors to Satan.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 03:20 pm
@hightor,
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"Occupy Wall Street"? Wow, that really shook up the system.

That was such an interesting failure. My thoughts turn to this quite often.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2023 03:29 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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In addition, many people have not experienced a strike culture or have forgotten it.

Yes. It's very important for folks our age to recognize this. My dad was a union organizer and the passion he and his associates felt for unions is now far more rare than back then. And as union memberships have declined so much, far fewer individuals and families now recognize the history and value of unionization not to mention a broad lack of appreciation regarding who has been working to demean and disempower unions.
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