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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 02:41 pm
@snood,
Quote:
You’re safest with “let’s just see how this goes”.

Oh yes. It's a lesson I learned re lovemaking - don't overpromise.
snood
 
  2  
Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 02:46 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
You’re safest with “let’s just see how this goes”.

Oh yes. It's a lesson I learned re lovemaking - don't overpromise.


Don’t know why you’re so googly-eyed over some rookie reps dramatic condemnations of Santos. It scores points as being moral giants with their constituents but makes nary a hint of difference.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 02:47 pm
 https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/Cutachogie/FullSizeRender_fSSPU2pJVF83hDJieFhfqC.jpg
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 02:54 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I wonder if they – and possibly a few others – might be willing to help avoid a government default when that vote comes up?

That vote will be a test of whether it remains possible for Republicans in the House to show any independence and morality at all. But yes, definitely possible.


Let's hope. The Republicans have done lots of damage to our Republic...but default would be devastating blow...not only to us, but to the world, which counts on dollars as a basis for so much.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 03:14 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I know.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2023 05:48 pm
Monitoring Biden
Most prolific liar in the history of the world
(heh, just trynta be like Biden)
Probably just since 1776

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=joe-biden

LATEST FALSE FACT-CHECKS ON JOE BIDEN

Joe Biden
stated on December 16, 2022 in a town hall for U.S. veterans:
After Joe Biden became vice president, at the behest of his father, he gave his uncle, Frank H. Biden, a Purple Heart for serving in the U.S. military during World War II.
falsefalse
By Yacob Reyes • December 20, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on December 16, 2022 in a speech:
Says he has been to “Afghanistan, Iraq and those areas” twice as president.
falsefalse
By Tom Kertscher • December 20, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on October 27, 2022 in a speech in Syracuse, N.Y.:
The price of gas is “down from over $5 when I took office.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • October 28, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on October 23, 2022 in a forum with Now This:
Student loan forgiveness is “passed. I got it passed by a vote or two. And it’s in effect.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • October 25, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on July 6, 2022 in a speech in Cleveland:
The “average federal income tax” paid by the richest Americans is “8%. … If you’re a cop, a teacher, a firefighter, union worker, you probably pay two to three times that.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • July 13, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on June 2, 2022 in a speech:
Gun manufacturers are “the only industry in the country” that have immunity from lawsuits.
falsefalse
By Samantha Putterman • June 8, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on May 12, 2022 in a tweet:
“When President Biden took office … there was no vaccine available.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • May 16, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on April 11, 2022 in a press conference:
“You couldn’t buy a cannon when, in fact, the Second Amendment passed."
falsefalse
By Yacob Reyes • April 12, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on March 1, 2022 in in his State of the Union address:
“I’ve been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan over 40 times.”
falsefalse
By Samantha Putterman • March 3, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on January 11, 2022 in a speech in Atlanta:
As a youth, “I got arrested” protesting for civil rights.
falsefalse
By Jeff Cercone • January 13, 2022

Joe Biden
stated on December 12, 2021 in an interview with Rita Braver of CBS:
“I’ve been against that war in Afghanistan from the very beginning.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • December 15, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on November 30, 2021 in a conversation at a technical college in Minnesota:
“I used to drive a tractor trailer … I only did it for part of a summer.”
falsefalse
By Jon Greenberg • December 3, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on December 1, 2021 in remarks at the White House:
"The number of small businesses is up 30% compared to before the pandemic."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • December 2, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on November 3, 2021 in a news conference.:
“No governor in Virginia has ever won when...he or she is the same party as the sitting president.”
falsefalse
By Warren Fiske • November 12, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on August 20, 2021 in remarks:
Al-Qaida is “gone” from Afghanistan.
falsefalse
By Amy Sherman • August 23, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on July 22, 2021 in a CNN town hall:
"The cost of an automobile, it's kind of back to what it was before the pandemic."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • July 23, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on June 23, 2021 in a White House announcement:
"The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own.”
falsefalse
By Jon Greenberg • June 25, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on May 3, 2021 in remarks on the American Families Plan:
For vaccine rates among Americans 65 and older, “there’s virtually no difference between white, Black, Hispanic, Asian American.”
falsefalse
By Victoria Knight • May 11, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on March 25, 2021 in press conference:
“We’re sending back the vast majority of the families that are coming.”
falsefalse
By Miriam Valverde • March 25, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on February 16, 2021 in remarks at a CNN town hall:
"If we kept (the minimum wage) indexed to inflation, people would be making $20 an hour right now.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • February 18, 2021

Joe Biden
stated on October 25, 2020 in a "60 Minutes" interview:
“I can send every qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion.”
falsefalse
By Noah Y. Kim • October 30, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on October 15, 2020 in a town hall:
“The boilermakers union has endorsed me because I sat down with them and went into great detail with leadership [about] exactly what I would do.”
falsefalse
By Jessica Calefati • October 21, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on October 15, 2020 in an ABC town hall:
"They eliminated the funding for community policing."
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • October 15, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on October 10, 2020 in a comment to reporters:
Senate Republicans' move to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court in an election year is "not constitutional."
falsefalse
By Bill McCarthy • October 13, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on October 5, 2020 in an NBC town hall in Miami:
During the Obama/Biden administration “18,000 people got clemency.”
falsefalse
By Amy Sherman • October 6, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech:
“The Trump campaign asked that I release the list (of potential Supreme Court nominees) only after (Ruth Bader Ginsburg) passed away.”
falsefalse
By Bill McCarthy • September 22, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on September 20, 2020 in a speech in Philadelphia:
“There's no court session between now and the end of this election.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • September 21, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on September 17, 2020 in a CNN town hall:
"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive. All the people. I'm not making this up. Just look at the data."
falsefalse
By Bill McCarthy • September 18, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on September 9, 2020 in a speech in Warren, Mich.:
“Military COVID infected: 118,984. Military COVID deaths: 6,114.”
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • September 10, 2020

Joe Biden
stated on September 2, 2020 in a speech in Wilmington, Del.:
Says he was the first person to call for invoking the Defense Production Act.
falsefalse
By Louis Jacobson • September 4, 2020
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2023 04:17 am
@Lash,
The most prolific liar in the history of the World is you.
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hightor
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2023 05:15 am
Quote:
After news broke yesterday that President Joe Biden’s lawyers had found a second batch of documents in his home in Wilmington, Delaware, Attorney General Merrick Garland today appointed Robert Hur as special counsel to investigate Biden’s handling of classified documents. After law school, Hur clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist and then served as special assistant to Christopher Wray—then an assistant attorney general, now FBI director—before being appointed by former president Trump as the U.S. attorney in Maryland. Since he left office in February 2021, he has been in private practice.

Accepting the post, Hur said: “I will conduct the assigned investigation with fair, impartial, and dispassionate judgment. I intend to follow the facts swiftly and thoroughly, without fear or favor, and will honor the trust placed in me to perform this service.”

The appointment of a special counsel seemed inevitable considering what Garland called “extraordinary circumstances”—likely a reference to the fact that former president Trump is being criminally investigated for his own handling of documents marked classified—and it serves to reinforce the idea that the Department of Justice treats everyone the same. This is a good thing.

But it presents a problem for MAGA Republicans. Unable to attack Biden for having documents marked classified in his possession without also faulting Trump, Republicans have tried to suggest that Biden was being treated differently than Trump is. The appointment of a special counsel undermines that. It also takes away from House Republicans the publicity they could get by investigating the issue themselves. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said this morning that he did not “think there needs to be a special prosecutor,” and that Congress should conduct its own investigation. 

This evening, Republicans appear to have settled on the talking point that Hur is tainted by his time at the Department of Justice under Wray—although Wray was appointed to the FBI directorship by Trump—and that his appointment is further evidence of the “political weaponization” of the FBI and the Justice Department. 

(Just to be clear: people writing about these cases keep referring to “documents marked classified” rather than “classified documents” because classification status can change, as Trump argued when he said he had declassified the materials found in his possession despite their markings. It’s awkward phrasing, I know, but it marks an important distinction.)

So far, anyway, Biden’s possession of documents marked classified appears very different from Trump’s. Biden’s team offered up to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) the information that Biden had documents in his possession, has apparently been zealous about searching for them, and is apparently cooperating with the Justice Department. 

Here’s the story Garland laid out today: On November 2, Biden’s lawyers found a batch of documents from the time of the Obama-Biden administration when they were cleaning out Biden’s office at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, the Washington, D.C., think tank where Biden worked after his time as vice president. They immediately contacted NARA, which took possession of the documents the next morning. On November 4, NARA’s inspector general contacted the Justice Department to notify it of the document exchange, and on November 9 the FBI began to assess whether Biden had illegally mishandled classified information.

According to journalist Matthew Miller, classified documents often get taken from government facilities by accident. Those errors are reported, the documents recovered, and a damage assessment made to determine whether further action needs to be taken, all of which took place here.

On November 14, Garland assigned U.S. Attorney John Lausch, a Trump appointee, to consider whether Garland should appoint a special counsel. Meanwhile, Biden’s team had continued to search for more documents, and on December 20, Biden’s lawyer told Lausch they had found more documents with classification markings at Biden’s Wilmington home. On January 5, Lausch told Garland he thought it was a good idea to appoint a special counsel. 

Finally, on January 12, Biden’s lawyer told Lausch that Biden’s lawyers had found one more document, apparently in his personal library, but that a thorough review had turned up nothing else. This afternoon, the White House counsel said: “We have cooperated closely with the Justice Department throughout its review, and we will continue that cooperation with the Special Counsel.”

While there is still a great deal we don’t know about either case, there are obvious and key differences between Biden’s and Trump’s handling of documents. 

In Trump’s case, NARA repeatedly asked him simply to return the documents it knew he had. He refused for a year, then let NARA staff recover 15 boxes that included documents marked classified, withholding others. After a subpoena, his lawyers turned over more documents and signed an affidavit saying that was all of them. But of course it wasn’t: the FBI’s August search of Mar-a-Lago recovered still more documents marked classified. Even now, none of Trump’s lawyers will certify that they have turned over all the documents they are required to. 

Trump is apparently being investigated for obstruction and for violations of the Espionage Act, which makes it a crime to withhold documents from a government official authorized to take them.

On his social media network today, Trump wrote: “Merrick Garland has to immediately end Special Counsel investigation into anything related to me because I did everything right, and appoint a Special Counsel to investigate Joe Biden who hates Biden as much as Jack Smith hates me.” In a different post, he called Smith an “unfair savage.” 

Garland’s appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith came only after Trump declared he was running for president in 2024, an announcement Trump likely made because he thought it would shield him from potential indictments. But news is coming daily that Smith’s subpoenas have been far ranging and widely spread, and that those who have testified before the grand jury found the questioning “intense.”

Meanwhile, arguments began today in the trial of five Proud Boys for their actions associated with the events of January 6, 2021. This is the third trial for seditious conspiracy associated with those events. Nine indicted Oath Keepers had to be broken into two groups because there was no courtroom in Washington, D.C., big enough for all of them. In the first Oath Keepers trial, a jury found five of the defendants guilty of various crimes, and two of them guilty of seditious conspiracy. The second Oath Keepers trial is going on right now. 

The Proud Boys defendants are charged with a variety of charges, including seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to prevent federal officers from performing their duties.

Roger Parloff of Lawfare, a legal correspondent who is covering the January 6 cases closely, writes that this trial “could well be the most important and informative of all.” The Justice Department today argued that the Proud Boys led the attack on the Capitol, while defense attorneys in turn argued that their clients were being used as “scapegoats” for Trump. “He is the one who unleashed that mob at the Capitol on January 6,” the lawyer for Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio said.

hcr
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2023 03:38 pm
@hightor,
Apart from your article largely shifting the focus back onto the former Trump admin, instead of sharing details about the actual case (documents taken were from Joe's time as VP) they also fail to remind Americans that during the time Joe removed those classified documents, his SoS had set up a "private" server, for the express purpose of selling classified information.

So, was Joe aiding and abetting the SoS in stealing classified info, to sell on the open market?
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snood
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2023 05:20 pm
Merrick Garland has failed the American people.
snood
 
  1  
Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2023 11:45 pm
The just-released transcription of Trump’s deposition shows him admitting to committing defamation.
So, Trump is shown to be guilty of ANOTHER crime.
The dual justice system - one for us, one for Donald Trump- wrings it’s hands and scratches it’s head.
Donald Trump miraculously goes unpunished AGAIN.
Our rage and frustration at being subject to the bullshit deepens.

And the hits just keep on coming.
Builder
 
  0  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 01:59 am
@snood,
Quote:
Our rage and frustration at being subject to the bullshit deepens.


Americans never got any closure on H Clinton's criminal activities.



Remembering that Huma Abedin was her personal assistant.
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Builder
 
  0  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 02:52 am
@snood,
Quote:
Merrick Garland has failed the American people.


So has Joseph Biden. What's your reaction to that fact?
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Lash
 
  0  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 04:32 am
JFC. The Biden laptop/ classified documents /crackhead son/Burisima/China/investigation is just about to blow sky high.

Looks like the ‘Big Guy’ has been selling copies of classified documents via the crackhead. The second batch of classified documents was found at the address listed as Hunter Biden’s residence.

Biden makes Trump look like a choir boy.
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 04:50 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Biden makes Trump look like a choir boy.


He doesn't sing too loud, I hope.
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Lash
 
  0  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 04:54 am
The cover up is what always gets them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-republicans-question-whether-hunter-biden-accessed-classified-documents-2023-01-13/

WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives launched an investigation on Friday into the Justice Department's handling of improperly stored classified documents possessed by President Joe Biden, and questioned whether his son, Hunter, had access to any.

In a Jan. 13 letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland, top Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee said the Justice Department's appointment of Robert Hur as special counsel for the case this week raised "fundamental oversight questions." They demanded all relevant documents and communications between the department, the FBI, the White House and Biden’s attorneys.

The letter came a day after Biden's legal team acknowledged it had found classified documents relating to his time as vice president in the Obama administration at his Delaware home, including some in his garage. Aides previously found another batch of classified documents at his residence, and at a Washington think tank he was associated with.

Earlier on Friday, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer wrote to the White House asking whether Hunter Biden had access to classified documents found at the president's private residence.

"It is unclear when the department first came to learn about the existence of these documents, and whether it actively concealed this information from the public on the eve of the 2022 elections," House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan and fellow panel Republican Mike Johnson told Garland in their letter.

"We expect your complete cooperation with our inquiry," they wrote, setting a Jan. 27 deadline for compliance.

White House and Justice Department officials were not immediately available for comment.

The two Republican probes present a distraction for the Democratic president, who has criticized his Republican predecessor Donald Trump's handling of classified material, and could cast a shadow over Biden as both he and Trump gear up for a possible 2024 election rematch.

It also provides fodder for House Republicans, who have pledged to focus their new majority on a number of investigations into the Biden administration.

In addition to examining Biden's handling of classified documents, Republicans are preparing to probe Hunter Biden's past business dealings in Ukraine.

In Comer's letter to the White House, the House Oversight Committee chairman said the home where the documents were found was listed as Hunter Biden's address on his driver's license as recently as 2018.

"The Committee is concerned President Biden stored classified documents at the same location his son resided while engaging in international business deals with adversaries of the United States," the letter read.

Republicans have sought to compare the investigation of Biden's handling of classified documents to the ongoing probe into how Trump handled classified documents after his presidency.

But their cases are not the same, legal experts say.

The White House said Biden's attorneys found a small number of classified documents and turned them over after discovery. Trump resisted doing so until an August FBI search turned up about 100 classified documents, raising questions about whether Trump or his staff obstructed the investigation.

(This story has been refiled to add "the" before "House Oversight Committee" in 11th paragraph)

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 05:02 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Merrick Garland has failed the American people.


NO...he has not, Snood.

Nor has Dr. Anthony Fauci.

This habit of villainizing people like them because they do not do or say what we want them to do or say...really has to stop.

snood
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 06:15 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:

Merrick Garland has failed the American people.


NO...he has not, Snood.

Nor has Dr. Anthony Fauci.

This habit of villainizing people like them because they do not do or say what we want them to do or say...really has to stop.




I’m not “villainizing” anyone. And wtf has Dr Fauci got to do with this? I’ve ever had anything but praise for him. You’re trying to make a big broad point, but my gripe with Garland isn’t some childish whine about “people not doing exactly what I want”.

If our Attorney General cannot hold the powerful accountable, he is failing in his duty. This guy has done nothing but dither and dodge with all the powerful behind the insurrection.

And when Trump and the others - like those who gave tours for thugs
to reconnoiter the Capitol, and those who stoked the crowds to come to DC and “fight” - when all of them get completely away with their attempted coup, Garland will be responsible.

Although I know he will have a whole chorus of people making an endless list of excuses for him.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 07:31 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:

Merrick Garland has failed the American people.


NO...he has not, Snood.

Nor has Dr. Anthony Fauci.

This habit of villainizing people like them because they do not do or say what we want them to do or say...really has to stop.




I’m not “villainizing” anyone. And wtf has Dr Fauci got to do with this? I’ve ever had anything but praise for him. You’re trying to make a big broad point, but my gripe with Garland isn’t some childish whine about “people not doing exactly what I want”.

If our Attorney General cannot hold the powerful accountable, he is failing in his duty. This guy has done nothing but dither and dodge with all the powerful behind the insurrection.

And when Trump and the others - like those who gave tours for thugs
to reconnoiter the Capitol, and those who stoked the crowds to come to DC and “fight” - when all of them get completely away with their attempted coup, Garland will be responsible.

Although I know he will have a whole chorus of people making an endless list of excuses for him.


Some people gratuitously villainize Fauci, Snood...and some gratuitously
villainize Garland.

With regard to Garland, you have done it regularly...and I have kept quiet.

I decided to comment this time, mostly because I saw this comment to be so terse. I included Fauci as a comparison...not to suggest YOU have done it to him.
snood
 
  1  
Reply Sat 14 Jan, 2023 08:00 am
@Frank Apisa,
Saying that Garland has not done his job is not exactly villianizing him.

If I said he was doing something out of some evil motives or that he was part of some kind of nefarious plot to protect Trump, that would be villanizing him.

I’ve said he is not equal to the task of holding a popular ex-president accountable for acts of sedition. I’ve said that he’s chicken hearted.

I am not alone in the assessment that he is a lesser man than was needed.

You say I’m villianizing him. I say you’re blindly defending someone because he represents an institution you want to believe in.

I think I understand the reason you’re doing it. You, like a whole lot of (mostly older, white) people simply cannot face the ugly truth that there are separate systems of justice - one for citizens without significant agency, and one for connected assholes like Donald Trump.

It would just too badly disturb your sense of equilibrium to accept that Merrick Garland is just doing what the justice system has always done for Donald Trump… bury his cases in bureaucracy and look the other way.
 

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