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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 11:53 am
@snood,
I think there may be confidentiality reasons why the IRS couldn't say anything.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 01:20 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

That Santos guy? His resume was ever more false than Hershel Walker’s. He lied about EVERYTHING. Where he went to school, where he worked, his experience…


Sounds like the quintessential Republican to me.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 01:21 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I think there may be confidentiality reasons why the IRS couldn't say anything.


I think the IRS was being run by someone willing to have Trump tell him what to do.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 02:02 pm

https://iili.io/HzGwcvI.jpg
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 03:12 pm
@Region Philbis,
Here in Canada, whenever Putin, Zelensky or Ukraine are mentioned on the Facebook page of one of our main media entities (Global TV) the bots and trolls swing into action. This has been so since the beginning of Russia's invasion and is still the case. The themes are all straight out of Russia's propaganda apparatus and a primary target is Zelensky. The main goal seems to be preventing western audiences from perceiving Zelensky as heroic and honorable. And as we know, this is the same tact being taken by headliners at FOX.

So, yeah. Republicans in Congress do have a problem tonight. They're trapped in their own slime.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 04:17 pm
When the FBI pressed Yoel Roth to quantify Russian bot traffic on Twitter, something Roth possessed the technology to do, Roth continually told the FBI that Twitter had not experienced Russian bot behavior, but was experiencing a minor eruption of domestic bot behavior.

—Documented in emails between Roth and the FBI
The Twitter Files

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 04:24 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Great quote from NJ Representative re: Mnuchin

"Being lectured on civility from someone who works for the President, President Trump, is like taking chivalry lessons from Jack the Ripper. It is impossible to be polite to corruption and people who break the law."



https://www.rawstory.com/mnuchin-lied-to-congress-and-broke-the-law-to-protect-trumps-taxes-says-top-house-democrat/
snood
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 05:23 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Reminds me of something Joy Reid likes to say. “I don’t mind compromise, but I don’t want to meet a bigot in the middle.”
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 06:04 pm
@snood,
Joy Reid is under-appreciated. I agree with her 100%. Compromise should never require selling out, or being sold out.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2022 06:08 pm
In Testimony, Hannity and Other Fox Employees Said They Doubted Trump's Fraud Claims
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/21/business/media/sean-hannity-fox-trump-election.html

No paywall
https://archive.vn/JLoE8

On Nov. 30, 2020, Sean Hannity hosted Sidney Powell on his prime-time Fox News program. As she had in many other interviews around that time — on Fox and elsewhere in right-wing media — Ms. Powell, a former federal prosecutor, spun wild conspiracy theories about what she said was “corruption all across the country, in countless districts,” in a plot to steal re-election from the president, Donald J. Trump.

At the center of this imagined plot were machines from Dominion Voting Systems, which Ms. Powell claimed ran an algorithm that switched votes for Mr. Trump to votes for Joseph R. Biden Jr. Dominion machines, she insisted, were being used “to trash large batches of votes.”
Mr. Hannity interrupted her with a gentle question that had been circulating among election deniers, despite a lack of supporting proof: Why were Democrats silencing whistle-blowers who could prove this fraud?

Did Mr. Hannity believe any of this?

“I did not believe it for one second.”

That was the answer Mr. Hannity gave, under oath, in a deposition in Dominion’s $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News, according to information disclosed in a court hearing on Wednesday. The hearing was called to address several issues that need to be resolved before the case heads for a jury trial, which the judge has scheduled to begin in April.

*snip*

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revelette1
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 08:24 am
Why Donald Trump is not fearing a Justice Department indictment

I agree.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 10:10 am
Take a look at what Garland said when he announced the appointment of Smith as special counsel. Here's a brief excerpt:

"Today, I signed an order appointing Jack Smith to serve as special counsel. The order authorizes him to continue the ongoing investigation into both of the matters that I have just described and to prosecute any federal crimes that may arise from those investigations."

Later, he added the following: "As special counsel, he will exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought."

The full text of Garland's statement is available in multiple sources. I'm quoting from this source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/11/18/transcript-merrick-garland-jack-smith-special-prosecutor/10728962002/
snood
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 10:18 am
@bobsal u1553115,
You know, if Garland hadn’t appointed a special counsel, the decision as to whether or not to charge Trump would have been his.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 10:44 am
@snood,
Don't you think he'll have enough on his plate when Gym Jordan convenes his investigation of the Justice Department? Along with Trump announcing his candidacy I think that was part of Garland's calculation.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 12:07 pm
Do Not Cross Ron DeSantis

Frank Bruni wrote:
When you picture Ron DeSantis, is he smiling or glowering? Telling you about some new project he’ll bring to life or some group of people he’ll bring to their knees? Sowing inspiration or vowing retribution?

I’m guessing he’s the seething protagonist of a revenge thriller.

That’s precisely the starring role he wants.

Here’s DeSantis as he tortures Disney for daring to disagree with his pet education law — he’s a Republican contract killer coming for Mickey Mouse. Here he is punishing and publicly shaming a Tampa-area prosecutor who doesn’t share his restrictive views on abortion. And here he is insisting that a grand jury in Florida investigate Pfizer and Moderna for allegedly exaggerating the efficacy of Covid vaccines.

His big set piece is a sadistic game with migrants, whom he relocates from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard not to benefit them but to bedevil his Democratic adversaries. And his vow to make Florida “where woke goes to die”? Woke isn’t meeting any natural end in the Sunshine State. It’s crossing paths with an assassin.

The Florida governor and Republican supernova models a version of politics not as messy theater for problem solving but as spiteful arena for retaliation, in which you’re defined by your enemies — or, rather, by how effectively you torment them.

An arena like the House of Representatives in the new year, when Republicans assume control of the chamber. How soon will they come for Hunter Biden? Anthony Fauci? Alejandro Mayorkas? They’re itching to impeach anyone who sits still long enough to be impeached. They’re bent on humiliation.

That approach isn’t new, nor is it confined to one party. It’s what has turned Supreme Court confirmation hearings into such splenetic spectacles, with senators scoring the most points by exhibiting the most disdain for nominees and making them squirm most visibly.

But Donald Trump raised it several nasty notches during and after his 2016 presidential campaign, when he beamed as his Hillary-hating supporters chanted, “Lock her up!” He understood that in an era of such intense negative partisanship, with so many people voting against the other team, grudges were gold.

“He enjoyed some of his success by being viciously retaliatory,” James Kimmel Jr., a lecturer in psychiatry at the Yale University School of Medicine, said when we spoke recently. “That has worked for him, at least in outward-seeming ways.” It carried him to “the highest pulpit that the country has available,” Kimmel noted, and other people — including other politicians — extract lessons from that.

DeSantis did. That’s obvious in his public remarks, like the ones he made in Pennsylvania on behalf of Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor of the state, before the midterms. Gabriel Sherman described the scene in a profile of DeSantis in Vanity Fair:

He offered cursory praise for Mastriano and then uncorked a grievance-fueled stump speech that sounded like it had been written by A.I. plugged into Fox News. In DeSantis’s telling, the honest people of Florida were besieged by a vast array of liberal scourges: Big Tech, I.R.S. agents, George Soros, the Biden administration, the corporate media, illegal immigrants, Anthony Fauci, police defunders, Disney, China, communism, cancel culture, critical race theory, and woke gender ideology. Only Ron DeSantis was brave enough to confront these malign forces.

The cynicism and nihilism stoked by rants like that get the country nowhere, and the supremacy of revenge as a political tactic allows politicians who are receiving legitimate scrutiny — as Trump is for his tax returns — to explain it away as reflexive payback. If everyone’s perceived as indiscriminately vengeful, no investigation has merit and no investigator is on the side of the angels.

That suits DeSantis. He’s a self-styled terminator and, silly me, I thought real leaders were supposed to be germinators. But that’s not the temper of these times. DeSantis has sized them up accurately. And shrunk himself accordingly.

nyt
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 12:16 pm
@hightor,
Hightor…

Don’t you think that actually being the individual who attempts to convict an ex-president of seditious acts might be daunting enough of a proposition to have caused Garland a little sphincter-tightening and buck-passing?

I suppose he could have workload management concerns about his “full plate”, yes. Certainly.

But you don’t think it could be something much simpler and more human, like just being scared?
snood
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 12:38 pm
@hightor,
It doesn’t bother me that we (and not just you and I, but me and others, as well)often differ in our opinions about the causes and considerations that move the authorities. In fact, it reassures me that we’re not just groupthinking ourselves to sleep, and I think it probably helps keep me on my toes so to speak.

What bothers me is the inclination to be (for lack of a kinder word) apologists that you and a couple other people seem to have for those in authority.

The reflex that says “well, he’s a cop, so I know he’s got good intentions” is not automatic with me. And the thing of it is, I can’t figure out how that reflex isn’t long since extinct in any thinking, aware person.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 01:55 pm
@snood,
Quote:
But you don’t think it could be something much simpler and more human, like just being scared?

I don't know that. It's as much a possibility as any alternative, yet believable, theory. I was relating what some legal commentators have said about it. As a prosecutor, even in a case as unprecedented as this one, it's not as if he's in mortal danger – at least I hope not. He can't convict anyone without the vote of a jury and I think every prosecutor in a high profile case understands that acquittal is always a possibility. It's not the same as the cops who wildly open fire when they fear for their lives; it's a legal drama in a courtroom. What do you think might be scaring him? And are you satisfied with Jack Smith's performance so far? (Seems to me he's doing a pretty good job.)
snood
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 02:41 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
But you don’t think it could be something much simpler and more human, like just being scared?

Quote:

I don't know that. It's as much a possibility as any alternative, yet believable, theory. I was relating what some legal commentators have said about it.

Of course you don't know it. No one knows what's in another man's mind. We just guess, based on available info about the individual. The "legal commentators'" guesses about Garland's future actions are still just guesses.
Quote:

As a prosecutor, even in a case as unprecedented as this one, it's not as if he's in mortal danger – at least I hope not. He can't convict anyone without the vote of a jury and I think every prosecutor in a high profile case understands that acquittal is always a possibility. It's not the same as the cops who wildly open fire when they fear for their lives; it's a legal drama in a courtroom.


You mean those cops who say they feared for their lives, even from handcuffed people, or people running away before they fired wildly? Those cops? Yeah, you're right it's not the same kind of fear that I'm talking about.

Quote:
What do you think might be scaring him?

Being known forever as the man who tried to bring Trump down, whether he succeeded or not. Is it really hard for you to imagine why someone concerned about their place in history might shy away from that? Especially since roughly half of the people who vote in presidential elections seem to have a Trump fetish.

Quote:
And are you satisfied with Jack Smith's performance so far? (Seems to me he's doing a pretty good job.)


I don't care what they do to the proud boys, or Rudy Giuliani, or anyone else that was not a sitting congressperson, senator, SC justice or president on 1/6. I mean, yeah okay I care - the sumbitches need to be held to some account. But the only thing that I will judge this AG and DOJ (or their appointed special counsels)on is how they do or do not pursue Trump and the others in power who were foundationally responsible for an attempted coup.
Mame
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2022 05:39 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

But the only thing that I will judge this AG and DOJ (or their appointed special counsels)on is how they do or do not pursue Trump and the others in power who were foundationally responsible for an attempted coup.


Agreed. The man needs to be held accountable for his actions all the way along his presidency. Trump was the man responsible for the shocking disrespect around the globe for the US. He turned the USA into a mockery during those four years. Who can forget him being laughed at so many times at global events at his wild and false claims? Consequently, there was a loss of trust and credibility of the US that he engendered that is extremely important and that I think the world is still reeling from. Even though he's gone, we are still watching politicians like Walker, De Santis, and Santos get votes which doesn't instil faith in the future of the USA. Where will the US be when Biden's done? If the people at the top don't prosecute that man it's bad news for the US.
 

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