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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 07:38 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
The PKK are heroes who are only trying to defend innocent Kurds from Turkey's genocide.


AND they are also terrorists. Just saying.
revelette1
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 09:02 am
@Lash,
Quote:
I believe that Russia v Ukraine and the attacks in Turkey, and the wrecking of the Nordstream pipeline was directed by the US in order to stop or to send grave warnings to the BRICS / Russia + China + OPEC+ alliance.


I am glad you directly answered my question.

I am inclined to believe your belief with a grain of salt, jumping to a conclusion without evidence to back it up. You habitually say because of "x + x that = x." Usually to some detriment to either Biden and/or democrats in some way.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 09:34 am
@revelette1,
Lash's view concurs with that of the Kremlin more often than not.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 09:42 am
@revelette1,
I would much prefer that there was a political party in the US which served the interests of the people—instead of two that serve oligarchs to the detriment of the people.

If this site had devolved to mindless cheerleading for Republicans instead of Democrats, my primary criticism would be against Republicans.

Success of BRICS presents an existential threat to the US. Central to BRICS v US (and whatever US allies may remain in time) is the lovely little jewel that has enabled our government to print money like a mobster—the petrodollar.

BRICS will end the petrodollar.

It will be a wrecking ball to our society.

We have gone to war for much less.
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Edit for those who know nothing about BRICS

BRAZIL RUSSIA INDIA CHINA SOUTH AFRICA (plus other countries who want to be in the BRICS alliance, notable Middle East (oil rich) countries, including Turkey.

Everything that happens in these countries should first be analyzed through the lens: would the US benefit from this? Could this have been orchestrated by the US to push back, warn, fight BRICS?



bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 09:55 am
@Lash,
Please. The BRICS poses as much threat as the old Warsaw Pact, The Organization of Non-Aligned Nations, the Clean Your Plate Club, and apparently, the Russian Army. The G20 vs third world anti Americanism, bad politics, human rights abuses, and Putin puppet-mastering the outcomes of their meetings? And you support BRICS.

Thumbs up for stating your opinion without hyper wording.

But it is wrong minded.

Turkey, Brazil, the petrostates and specifically Russia are no refuges for human rights and Democracy.

Honestly: where would you rather be - the US or Russia? Turkey? Saudi Arabia?
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 09:58 am
Glenn Greenwald

@ggreenwald
·
Nov 16
US funding for war in Ukraine in 9 months:

Mar: $ 13.6 billion
May: $ 40b
Nov: $ 37.7b: Biden's new request

That $ 91.3 billion is 33% more than Russia's *total military spending for the year*

It's *double* the US's average annual expenditure for its own war in Afghanistan
_________________

Only an existential threat would cause this kind of money.
Americans are desperately poor, school are unfunddd, generations of young black men rot in jails because they can’t pay bail or afford an atty—yet look at this $$.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:00 am

Glenn Greenwald

@ggreenwald
·
Nov 16
Don't worry: I'm sure these billions and weapons flying around DC and Ukraine are being meticulously accounted for.

That's why Dems and GOP united to block
@RandPaul's amendment for oversight.

No need! Raytheon, CIA and Ukraine are famous for transparent, honest accounting.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:03 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Glenn Greenwald

@ggreenwald
·
Nov 16
US funding for war in Ukraine in 9 months:

Mar: $ 13.6 billion
May: $ 40b
Nov: $ 37.7b: Biden's new request

That $ 91.3 billion is 33% more than Russia's *total military spending for the year*

It's *double* the US's average annual expenditure for its own war in Afghanistan
_________________

Only an existential threat would cause this kind of money.
Americans are desperately poor, school are unfunddd, generations of young black men rot in jails because they can’t pay bail or afford an atty—yet look at this $$.



So what? And Greenwalt. Seriously, Greenwalt. It is nice to see him use facts for once, but so what? And Rand Paul. You have to do better than that.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:11 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I’m for a multipolar world. There should never be a hegemony like the one that has existed for most if not all of my life.

BRICS can be an equalizer among nations, but my country has been so grossly mismanaged that this alliance and the shift away from petrodollar will be devastating for the US economy.

So, I can be personally glad for alliances that put the world’s countries on a more equal footing—but I’m not blind to how this will wreck my country. (And I’m convinced my country has been working on plans to stop it from its first breath.)

Also, considering how the US has devastated other countries, I don’t expect relations between the beaten bully and her former victims will be very convivial.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:14 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Why would the US spend that amount of money? It’s not a ’so what’ to any intellectually honest person.

Rand Paul merely wanted oversight on our spending. What is my money buying? Who’s getting that money? This is US taxpayer money. You may not care where your money goes—billions and billions that could make our own country educated, safely housed, and fed healthy food.

You must be detached from need.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:16 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
BRICS can be an equalizer among nations, but my country has been so grossly mismanaged that this alliance and the shift away from petrodollar will be devastating for the US economy.
You know, of course, that the composition of BRICS is almost identical to that of the O5 countries, which include Mexico instead of Russia. And they participate in the meetings of the G7 countries despite their lack of membership.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes, another alliance to consider!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:38 am
@Lash,
There is nothing new there, no sea change in our spending. Defense spending has finally started dropping, so there is that.

Rand Paul is a jackass. I doubt his bill is so much about spending as it is about making hay. Congress has several committees in both Houses that oversees spending before it's spent and after, we have the GAO, GSA, The Office of Management and Budget (OMB), tell me please: what is one more agency going to do other than fit into Rand Paul's campaign of self aggrandizement to stay in the press and on the RW's mind when they write campaign checks. If you think Rand Paul is interested in us little guys, including you, well that's self delusion and disconnect from the truth working on you.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:42 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Turkey, Brazil, the petrostates and specifically Russia are no refuges for human rights and Democracy.

Honestly: where would you rather be - the US or Russia? Turkey? Saudi Arabia?

This is why I say dispassionate consideration is required to make logical rather than emotional assessments.

This statement and question have no place in a conversation evaluating what is happening.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:46 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Rand Paul might be a psychotic dog-sexing wife-beater—but in calling for oversight of our multibillion dollar gift to Ukraine, he is correct.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:49 am
@Lash,
Are you trying tooooo hard? This is not a level playing ground. The number of murders and human rights abuses is not trivia. The fact you equate abuses in the US to abuses perpetrated by Russia, the Petrostates, Brazil, Turkey is prima facie of the disconnect required to pretend it's all equal.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:50 am
Anyway, I’d be in a sad mess if it were important to me to convince anyone.

I feel like I answered questions and pushed back on some weak rebuttals.

Back to your regular programming…
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 10:54 am
@Lash,
Buck up. You'll be on to Hunter Biden's laptop soon enough.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:00 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Are you trying tooooo hard? This is not a level playing ground. The number of murders and human rights abuses is not trivia. The fact you equate abuses in the US to abuses perpetrated by Russia, the Petrostates, Brazil, Turkey is prima facie of the disconnect required to pretend it's all equal.

I don’t want to gum up the thread further. If you want to continue this conversation, I’d be fine moving it to Rising Fascism or elsewhere.

This was your first blatant dishonesty. Disappointing. I did not ‘equate abuses,’ so this entire post was just a belligerent lie.

We’d been doing so well.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:01 am
@blatham,
Oh no. You went there?

I’ll be back.😂
 

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