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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Are you trying tooooo hard? This is not a level playing ground. The number of murders and human rights abuses is not trivia. The fact you equate abuses in the US to abuses perpetrated by Russia, the Petrostates, Brazil, Turkey is prima facie of the disconnect required to pretend it's all equal.


Lash is playing you, Bobsal. She is purely a troll. Get some fun out of it, but trying to be reasonable with her is like trying to explain quantum mechanics to a ferret.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:05 am
@Lash,
The USA are one of the G7-countries, and now it's still an alliance worth considering?
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
So, what I’m missing is: the US should be able to drone families, kill journalists, bomb countries, and install dictators—but it’s ok because…

Why is it ok again?
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

The USA are one of the G7-countries, and now it's still an alliance worth considering?

You said O5, Walter. An alliance I’d forgotten.
Is there any point you’re skating around?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:14 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

So, what I’m missing is: the US should be able to drone families, kill journalists, bomb countries, and install dictators—but it’s ok because…

Why is it ok again?


It is not okay.

You may go back to your trolling.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:19 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Oh no. You went there?

I’ll be back.😂


The media suppressed news of H Biden’s laptop to help J Biden’s campaign.

Common knowledge.

So surprised you’d bring it up.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:21 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Lash wrote:

So, what I’m missing is: the US should be able to drone families, kill journalists, bomb countries, and install dictators—but it’s ok because…

Why is it ok again?


It is not okay.

You may go back to your trolling.

Cowards try to dismiss opinions they can’t counter with logics or facts with ad hominem.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:29 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:

Lash wrote:

So, what I’m missing is: the US should be able to drone families, kill journalists, bomb countries, and install dictators—but it’s ok because…

Why is it ok again?


It is not okay.

You may go back to your trolling.



Cowards try to dismiss opinions they can’t counter with logics or facts with ad hominem.


I agree.

Good girl. You have continued trolling as I suggested.

How's that working out?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:31 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
You said O5, Walter. An alliance I’d forgotten.
And I wrote that "they participate in the meetings of the G7 countries despite their lack of membership".
Lash wrote:
Is there any point you’re skating around?
Try another toe loop , Lash.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You’re the one on ice.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 11:42 am
@Frank Apisa,
I’m responding to questions and statements directed to me with my opinions.
You’re trolling.
No legitimate responses?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 12:24 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I’m responding to questions and statements directed to me with my opinions.
You’re trolling.
No legitimate responses?


All of my responses have been legitimate, Lash.

Don't let the pressure get to you. Troll like you have to be better than that.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 12:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Ad hom
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 12:41 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Mar: $ 13.6 billion
May: $ 40b
Nov: $ 37.7b: Biden's new request

That $ 91.3 billion is 33% more than Russia's *total military spending for the year*


These numbers are radically off. From this link (which matches numbers on numerous other links)
Quote:
Keeping track of the numbers is challenging. Since the war started, U.S. officials have announced a flurry of initiatives aimed at supporting Ukrainian defense efforts while keeping short of a more direct involvement in the conflict. On Thursday, on a surprise visit to Kyiv, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced a new $675 million package of U.S. military equipment as well as a $2.2 billion “long-term” investment to bolster the security of Ukraine and 17 of its neighbor countries. Weeks earlier, President Joe Biden unveiled a $3 billion aid package, the largest yet, symbolically choosing Ukraine’s Independence Day for the announcement. The administration noted on that occasion that the total military assistance committed to Ukraine this year had reached $12.9 billion, more than $15.5 billion since 2014, when Russia annexed Crimea. And this month, Biden also asked Congress to authorize an additional $13.7 billion for Ukraine, including money for equipment and intelligence.
engineer
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 01:08 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I believe that Russia v Ukraine and the attacks in Turkey, and the wrecking of the Nordstream pipeline was directed by the US in order to stop or to send grave warnings to the BRICS / Russia + China + OPEC+ alliance.

Just some thoughts on the above.
- BRIC was a term invented by US investment firms talking about opportunities to invest in growing markets. While some those countries along with some others have started regular meetings to discuss opportunities to grow their economies (much like the G7 and the G20), it is not some sort of global threat to anyone and really, only China has shown the potential envisioned twenty years ago anyway. BRICS is certainly not a threat to the US. Growth in foreign countries often results in more growth in the US and I doubt anyone in the State Department would consider it one. All these countries want to trade with the US and the US wants to trade with all of them.
- How you get to the US orchestrating the Russia/Ukraine war is beyond me, although it has been a god send in terms of gutting Putin, a major, bad actor on the world stage.
- Our European allies are very savvy technologists, well capable of doing extensive forensics analyses of actions after the fact. If the US were caught doing something like bombing critical European pipelines, it would completely unravel our defense partnerships overnight. On the other hand, Russia gained a lot from the attack. Immediately, defense analysts all over the world started pointing out that Western pipeline and communication infrastructure in international waters are extremely vulnerable and if Russia chose to start attacking it, defending it would be extremely difficult. The idea that the US would do this for some imagined benefit, at extreme risk of detection and to the benefit of Russia is the stuff radical, conspiracy theories.
- The magical "petrodollar" that the fringe likes to throw about is nice for the US, but by no means critical to our economy. Oil is denominated in dollars so those buying in other currencies have to convert their currencies to dollars and incur a small fee to do so. If oil contracts were written in various currencies or a basket of currencies, then they could save that small transaction fee. Them paying that fee while the US does not is not driving world dominance. It is convenient for selling countries to have one standard for contracts. It does not give the US any power to control world energy markets (as Saudi Arabia has recently demonstrated.)
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 01:13 pm
@engineer,
From PBS
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-asks-for-more-than-37-billion-in-ukraine-emergency-aid

Biden asks for more than $37 billion in Ukraine emergency aid

Politics Nov 15, 2022 3:50 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden is asking Congress to provide more than $37 billion in emergency aid to Ukraine, a massive infusion of cash that could help support the nation as Russian forces suffer battlefield losses in their nine-month-old invasion.

The administration’s funding request, which comes as lawmakers begin their post-election session, also seeks $9.25 billion in COVID-19 funding to prepare for a possible winter surge and help combat the virus nationwide. Government funding expires in mid-December, and the Ukraine and COVID aid would be part of the package to fund the government through the end of September 2023.

The request for such a sizable amount of money for Ukraine comes as the GOP is poised to take control of the House following the midterm elections. House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, who is in line to become speaker, has warned that Republicans wouldn’t support writing a “blank check” for Ukraine if they capture the majority.

Shalanda Young, director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said that more than three-fourths of the $40 billion approved by Congress earlier this year for Ukraine has already been disbursed or committed. The Biden administration has asked for a total of $37.7 billion in support.

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From The Hill
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3625876-white-house-asks-congress-for-13-7b-in-ukraine-related-funding/amp/

Congress on a bipartisan basis has approved over $53 billion in security, economic and humanitarian assistance to address Russia’s invasion of Ukraine this year. Biden signed the last package, totaling $40 billion, into law in May. At the time, the White House said it expected those funds to last through the end of the fiscal year.
_____________________

I just think you had bad sources.
It’s all here.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 02:04 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
So, what I'm missing is: the US should be able to drone families, kill journalists, bomb countries, and install dictators--but it's ok because...
Why is it ok again?

The US does not target journalists. Neither do we install dictators.

It is OK for us to dronestike people and bomb countries because the people that we are killing are evil scumbags who deserve even worse than what we do to them.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 02:05 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Success of BRICS presents an existential threat to the US.

What???

Nonsense!


Lash wrote:
Central to BRICS v US (and whatever US allies may remain in time) is the lovely little jewel that has enabled our government to print money like a mobster--the petrodollar.

There is no such thing as a petrodollar.


Lash wrote:
BRICS will end the petrodollar.

They will find it difficult to end something that is entirely imaginary.


Lash wrote:
It will be a wrecking ball to our society.

The end of an imaginary item will do no damage to our society.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 02:06 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
the shift away from petrodollar will be devastating for the US economy.

The US economy will not suffer from the end of an imaginary item.


Lash wrote:
Also, considering how the US has devastated other countries, I don't expect relations between the beaten bully and her former victims will be very convivial.

If anyone has a problem with us, we can bomb them until they settle down and shut up about it.

That's why we have an Air Force.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2022 02:08 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
AND they are also terrorists. Just saying.

I am far from convinced of that. I think the only terrorists in that conflict are the Turks.
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