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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 03:55 pm
@Lash,
Give some substance to your suspicions. Who might be doing what deception?
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 04:02 pm
Entirely surprising, this...
Quote:
Joe Rogan has admitted he lied about a school letting “furry” children use litter boxes, walking back his claims from a month ago that have since been amplified by Republican Senate Don Bolduc. In an October podcast, Rogan told guest Tulsi Gabbard that his friend’s wife taught at a school that “had to install a litter box in the girl’s room because there’s a student that’s a furry.” Now, he’s saying “I don't think they actually did it,” attributing the whole situation to “one wacky mother” who the school ignored. Claims that furry students are using litter boxes have been debunked over and over, but the lie has persisted as a right-wing talking point. Bolduc accused a school of using litter boxes in a campaign town hall, saying “I wish I was making it up.” Lucky for the New Hampshire Republican, he was. “I fed into that,” Rogan said in his podcast, admitting he had no facts to back up his claim.
HERE
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 04:15 pm
Quote:
Jonathan Allen
@jonallendc
1h
In exclusive interviews, the ex-wife of Michigan Supreme Court Justice Brian Zahra says that he impregnated her and took her to an abortion clinic in 1983.

In September, he voted to block an abortion-rights measure from going on the ballot.
Story Here
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 04:38 pm
Also not surprising.
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Arson attack on Tulsa donut shop hosting a drag event follows right-wing media campaign of fear
Here
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 04:38 pm
@snood,
I’m waiting for substance to be proven to me.
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 06:15 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I’m waiting for substance to be proven to me.

For you, this is a perfect response to his question. Let me translate from snake language...

"I have no ears. Prove to me that I make a slithering sound when I move."
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 06:19 pm
Quote:
Elon Musk Says Twitter Will Give Blue Checks Only to Verified Conspiracy Theorists
By Andy Borowitz

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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 06:41 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I’m waiting for substance to be proven to me.

For you, this is a perfect response to his question. Let me translate from snake language...

"I have no ears. Prove to me that I make a slithering sound when I move."

(Greeks throw ad hom flag on this clown. Again)
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 07:53 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
I’m waiting for substance to be proven to me.


Need to rename this place, from able to know (sic) to "shoot the messenger".

Seems to be their fave activity of late. Can't answer questions, so shoot the messenger again.

Even bring up posts from years ago to somehow justify shooting the messenger, again.

Make up stories about the messenger, to justify ........drum roll.....shooting the messenger again.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 07:58 pm
It’s SO 2022 Republican.
“I’m not saying anything’s wrong, I’m just asking questions.”
“Why don’t they just PROVE they’re not doing anything evil?”
“If they haven’t done anything wrong, why don’t they produce the evidence I require?”

Such a steaming pile.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 08:12 pm
@snood,
A basic right and responsibility of a citizen in a free society.
You may simp around accepting whatever crap the ruling party feeds you. Not everyone does.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2022 11:05 pm
@blatham,
Jonathan Allen wrote:
In exclusive interviews, the ex-wife of Michigan Supreme Court Justice Brian Zahra says that he impregnated her and took her to an abortion clinic in 1983.
In September, he voted to block an abortion-rights measure from going on the ballot.

I look forward to voting for him in a few days.

The ballots in Michigan do not list the political party of judicial candidates, but the information can be found online in some cases. I like adding to my straight-down-the-line Republican votes by adding in all the Republican judicial candidates as well.
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Builder
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 12:32 am
@Lash,
Quote:
A basic right and responsibility of a citizen in a free society.


If the knee-jerk reactions to the recent plandemic showed us all one thing, it's that freedom is subjective, and the parameters constantly shifting.

What surprised me most, is just how quickly most simps accepted the new conditions placed on their faux freedoms. Also how quickly they willingly became unpaid agents of the state, in doing their bidding. Orwell nailed it.

I just carried on as usual, and encountered almost zero resistance to my perceived impertinence.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 02:52 am
Quote:
While most of us have been watching the jockeying around the election, our legal system has continued to work on its own clock.

Yesterday morning, Kyle Cheney, Josh Gerstein, and Nicholas Wu of Politico reported more about the eight emails lawyer John Eastman, who wrote the memo outlining a plan by which then–vice president Mike Pence could steal the 2020 election for Donald Trump, tried to hide from the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol. The emails included discussions between Eastman, fellow Trump lawyer Kenneth Chesebro, and others about how to stop Congress from counting the certified 2020 electoral ballots on January 6, 2021.

In the emails, Chesebro urged arranging to get a case before Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court so he could issue a stay that would cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election in Georgia. They should “frame things so that Thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay or other circuit justice opinion saying Georgia is in legitimate doubt.” Thomas oversees the circuit court that includes Georgia, and he would “end up being key” to getting Biden’s victory overturned.

Eastman responded: “I think I agree with this.” Such a move by Thomas could “kick the Georgia legislature into gear.”

As a young lawyer, Eastman clerked for Thomas, and Dan Froomkin of PressWatchers noted that Eastman and others were in this same period of time writing to Thomas’s wife, Ginni, who was urging state legislators to overturn the election by submitting fake slates of electors.

Froomkin pointed to a New York Times article from June 15, 2022, which explained that on December 24, 2020, five days after Trump had announced a “protest” at the Ellipse to be held on January 6, Eastman wrote to Chesebro that Eastman had heard there was a “heated fight” among the Supreme Court justices about whether they should take up the election issue. Chesebro replied that the “odds of action before Jan. 6 will become more favorable if the justices start to fear that there will be ‘wild’ chaos on Jan. 6 unless they rule by then, either way.”

So we seem to have a deliberate attempt to throw a court case to Justice Clarence Thomas, whose wife was urging the overthrow of the election, and to pressure the Supreme Court to act by creating chaos in the streets, all in order to keep former president Trump in the White House.

In the case of the 11,000 government documents the former president took to Mar-a-Lago, the Department of Justice has offered immunity in the case to Kash Patel, a man closely tied to former president Trump, to testify about Trump’s handling of those documents. Patel has previously invoked his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination, after telling the right-wing Breitbart media network that Trump declassified the documents before he left the White House in January 2021. Prosecutors cannot use anything Patel says against him at trial so long as he testifies truthfully. A federal judge ordered him to testify before a grand jury, which he did today.

In the case of the Trump Organization’s fraudulent business practices, New York Judge Arthur Engoron today ordered an independent monitor to oversee the Trump Organization and blocked it from transferring assets without court approval. Trump lawyers complained that this move was “about seizing control of a successful company,” but the attorney general’s office said it was trying to guard against “ongoing fraudulent activity or deceptive activity.” In September, on the same day the New York attorney general’s office brought suit against the Trump Organization for fraudulent business practices, representatives from that organization created a new company called Trump Organization II. The judge has appointed a monitor to make sure the old company doesn’t transfer assets to the new company to avoid legal action.

Trump promptly attacked the decision, calling Engoron “a puppet judge” and saying the decision is “Communism come to our shores.” Later, he told a crowd that “a radical left lunatic judge in New York City who is totally controlled by my worst enemies in the Democrat Party…started a process of property confiscation that is akin to Venezuela, Cuba, or the old Soviet Union.”

The characterization of a decision to make sure the Trump Organization does not continue to break the law after a pattern of fraudulent behavior as “Communism” is a product of the U.S. interpretation of the 1991 fall of the USSR. Republicans then made the mistake of assuming that democracy and unfettered capitalism always traveled together. Over the years, Republicans have largely ignored the “democracy” part of that equation and continually doubled down on the idea that the American system means that businesses should be able to do whatever they wished. In that warped formulation, any oversight must be like Soviet-style communism.

Trump also called his followers on his social media site to “fight back against radical tyranny and save our Country!”

This call for violence echoes the former president’s calls to stop the counting of the certified electoral votes on January 6, 2021, and it illustrates why it is so important for the Department of Justice to enforce the laws. If there is no penalty for lawbreaking, there is no deterrent from breaking laws going forward. But, in fact, the Justice Department has been calling to account those who participated in the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol: in September, former New York City police officer Thomas Webster was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

With actual penalties mounting against those who answered to Trump’s previous calls for violence, it is unclear how many will answer again, although Trump appeared to be trying to rally them with what observers say is a frivolous lawsuit filed yesterday against the New York attorney general, Letitia James, complaining that “she attacks great and upstanding businesses.”

Penalties appear to be mounting for those breaking the law for Republican election victories. Republican operatives Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl pleaded guilty in October to a felony charge of telecommunications fraud for robocalls to depress the Black vote in Cleveland in 2020 and are facing fines and up to a year in prison. And earlier this week, a judge ordered two leaders of True the Vote, a right-wing organization pushing the voter fraud conspiracy theories at the heart of the debunked film 2000 Mules, to jail for contempt of court. An election logistics software company they have publicly accused of stealing the election for Biden has sued them for defamation; they claim to have evidence of election fraud but have refused to produce it.

Meanwhile, the Trump Organization is currently on trial in New York for criminal tax fraud. Prosecutors allege the company avoided taxes by paying executives with apartments, cars, and school tuitions.

While legal news has piled up, the upcoming midterm elections have not gone away. Tonight, television personality Oprah Winfrey, who was largely responsible for bringing Republican Mehmet Oz to national prominence on her television show, endorsed his Democratic opponent, John Fetterman, for senator from Pennsylvania.

hcr
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 03:04 am
@Builder,
Quote:
Need to rename this place, from able to know (sic) to "shoot the messenger".

That's ridiculous. Is it asking too much that putative statements of fact conform to the known evidence? Doubting the message, identifying false claims, and labeling disinformation really isn't the same as "shooting" anyone. People such as yourself continually post articles from questionable and biased sources, many containing easily refutable lies, yet you continue to post this drivel, almost daily. If anyone ever "shot" you for this behavior they were obviously shooting blanks.

Go to bed.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 03:14 am
@hightor,

Quote:
That's ridiculous


No; it isn't ridiculous. It's a relevant observation that you'd rather ignore.

Quote:
Is it asking too much that putative statements of fact conform to the known evidence?


Not at all. You'd need to quantify your "known evidence" claims, before that could proceed. Lamestream media isn't going to cut it, you do realise?

Quote:
Doubting the message, identifying false claims, and labeling disinformation really isn't the same as "shooting" anyone.


Who identified the claims as false? Who labeled the claims as disinformation? You've achieved three-fifths of **** all.

You're supposed to be in a moderator role here. Remember that.

hightor
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 03:45 am
@Builder,
Go to bed.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 06:01 am
This bit of Fox agitprop will be familiar to folks here...

Fox host on the Paul Pelosi attack: “Doesn't add up”
Pete Hegseth: “Doesn't add up. Something, something doesn't make sense
.”


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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 06:06 am
Likewise familiar, bolded...
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How the right built a Paul Pelosi conspiracy theory

The right’s conspiracy theorists went to work soon after news of Paul Pelosi’s assault broke. They create dubious but politically beneficial narratives by taking existing facts – particularly ones that emerge early in the life of a story, when initial reports are often wrong – mixing in falsehoods, and using wild logical jumps to put the result in a different context.

First, an investigative journalist at a local TV affiliate reported on Friday that the assailant was wearing only his underwear when police arrived. But the journalist retracted that reporting the same day, and no other outlet confirmed it.

Second, the dispatcher who received a 911 call from Paul Pelosi said that he had identified the intruder as a “friend.” But Pelosi, according to law enforcement, was making that call surreptitiously from the bathroom and speaking “in code” to the dispatcher in an attempt to avoid his suspicion.

Third, some alleged that there were no signs of forced entry at the Pelosi home, suggesting that Paul Pelosi had willingly let DePape inside. In fact, police say he forced entry through the rear door, and aerial photos and video show shattered glass around that entryway (in fact, other internet sleuths claim that the glass pattern is suspicious).

Fourth, Politico reported on Friday based on San Francisco Police Chief William Scott’s press conference that the first police officers responding on the scene “were let inside by an unknown person. They discovered DePape and Pelosi struggling for a hammer.” This generated speculation that a third individual had been present. But Scott did not actually say that, and the SFPD subsequently confirmed only two people, DePape and Paul Pelosi, were at the home when police arrived.

The right’s conspiracy theorists took those four pieces of evidence, mixed in Paul Pelosi’s May DUI charge, and concocted the narrative that hehad been the victim of a drunken gay lovers’ spat that was subsequently covered up.

By Sunday, versions of this speculation were rampant on the right. Commentators who present themselves as credible offered a version in which they were simply asking questions because the press supposedly refused to do so.
Here
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2022 06:21 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
I’m waiting for substance to be proven to me.

For you, this is a perfect response to his question. Let me translate from snake language...

"I have no ears. Prove to me that I make a slithering sound when I move."


In that case I remain to be convinced that Lash is anything other than a far right Trump supporter.

As she's been pushing that lie for the past ten years with no success she should accept defeat.
 

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