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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 12:39 pm
@hightor,
Paul Waldman had a good piece up yesterday on how Biden does not provide Republicans the sort of target a female or a black person or a loud "socialist" like Sanders provides. As a consequence, they are at a bit of a loss now on how to do their standard agitprop and who to use as the focus. As you suggest, Pelosi has been such a target for a long time (as Hillary was; note similarities in descriptions of the two) and so they default to her.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 12:55 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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...and she's [Pelosi] clearly the string puller with puppet Biden.

I'd like to see some actual evidence for this observation. Because it just sounds like a typical Republican cheap shot. So what exactly is Pelosi compelling Biden to do that he wouldn't already be doing? As chief executive he has his own staff — so they all just roll over and let the Speaker (who already has a lot of legislative responsibilities) go over their heads, allowing her to control the president's agenda? The only thing clearly seen here is the childish Republican obsession with Pelosi, who apparently frightens them:[/size]
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This Radical Feminist Witch is just about as Evil as they come. This Jezebel hides in plain sight, just as all wolves in sheep’s clothing do, with the cloak of religion, Catholicism, draped over her putrid flesh!

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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 01:14 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Paul Waldman had a good piece up yesterday on how Biden does not provide Republicans the sort of target a female or a black person or a loud "socialist" like Sanders provides. As a consequence, they are at a bit of a loss now on how to do their standard agitprop and who to use as the focus. As you suggest, Pelosi has been such a target for a long time (as Hillary was; note similarities in descriptions of the two) and so they default to her.


Even the whole saga regarding Hunter Biden's laptop fizzled before the election after Tucker Carlson made a plea to stop harassing him and his family. At this point, opponents are just waiting for a major scandal to use against Biden.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 01:23 pm
Epoch Media Casts Wider Net to Spread Its Message Online

The company’s ties to more than a dozen sites illustrate how conservative media companies are branching out after Facebook and Twitter began stiffer policing of false information.

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Youmaker, a little-known video site, prominently featured a video alleging that a far-left extremist movement was plotting to destroy America.

On Sagebook, a Twitter-like social network filled with posts from right-leaning users, a sidebar of trending topics contained the hashtags for “Stop the Steal,” “Censorship” and “Facebook.”

And Right on Times, an obscure right-wing news aggregator, recently promoted favorable articles about Republican officials who refused to recognize Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory in the 2020 election.

All three are among about a dozen websites spreading misleading information with ties to the Epoch Media Group, a news organization that has become a top purveyor of conspiracy theories and political misinformation, according to data provided by the research group Advance Democracy and analyzed by Global Disinformation Index, a nonprofit that studies disinformation.

Youmaker hosts the videos on The Epoch Times website. Sagebook was recently used to run The Epoch Times’s comments system. When Right on Times launched a few months ago, numerous Epoch employees promoted the site on their social media feeds, and Right on Times ran many articles from Epoch properties. Researchers found that the other sites have digital fingerprints, like advertising identification tags, that match those used by Epoch Media properties.

The websites illustrate how conservative media organizations that spread misleading information, facing crackdowns by the largest social networks, are casting a wider net to reach online audiences. Epoch Media, which is affiliated with the Chinese spiritual movement Falun Gong, regularly publishes anti-Chinese Communist Party content as well as conspiracy theory-laden articles about QAnon and unfounded allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

The biggest social media companies, like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, have taken steps to limit misinformation in recent months, removing thousands of accounts, including former President Donald J. Trump’s. Since then, many right-wing pundits moved to messaging services like Parler and Telegram, and media outlets publishing conservative points of view turned to other alternative services.

Epoch Media appears to be “anticipating a move by the bigger companies to push them off the more mainstream platforms,” said Joan Donovan, the research director of Harvard University’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy.

The ownership of the websites is unclear. At least one, Youmaker, discloses a video partnership with the Epoch Media Group. Many others do not disclose any ties with Epoch. The Global Disinformation Index, a nonprofit research group, found the ties among the sites by analyzing their hosting records, website analytics and advertiser identifiers.

Right on Times does not disclose any partnership with Epoch, nor do the two websites share a unique digital identifier. But when it launched in October, its articles were posted on social media by Epoch employees. Right on Times also had a prominent ad campaign on Epoch properties, and it included many articles from Epoch properties on its service. Those actions led disinformation researchers, including those at the Global Disinformation Index, to conclude there was coordination.

Epoch Times said that Right on Times was one of its advertisers, and that Youmaker was an “independent business partner.” Sagebook, the company said, was being phased out. (The Sagebook site was no longer accessible as of last week.)

“The premise of your article is incorrect,” the company said in an email. “The Epoch Times does not deal in conspiracy theories. We pride ourselves on rigorous, fact-based reporting, which has attracted a large and rapidly growing audience.”

The largest media brand run by the Epoch Media Group remains The Epoch Times, which regularly publishes pro-Trump misinformation. In the past year, articles from The Epoch Times garnered 123.7 million likes and shares on social media, according to the social media analysis tool Buzzsumo. It has tens of millions of social media followers and has become a true rival of successful conservative outlets like The Daily Caller and Breitbart News. It now has dozens of international versions.

In 2019 and 2020, Facebook alleged links between The Epoch Times and brands including “The BL” and “Truth Media,” saying they were all part of the Falun Gong orbit. The brands operated hundreds of accounts that automatically published posts on Facebook at a rapid clip about conservative ideology and the 2020 election, as well as misinformation about the coronavirus. Eventually, Facebook ruled that many of those accounts violated its “coordinated inauthentic behavior” policies. The company removed them in two separate takedowns.

“We have clarified repeatedly that The Epoch Times has no relationship with The BL and Truth Media,” Epoch Media said.

Epoch began to make use of the alternative social media platforms, like Sagebook and Youmaker, in late 2020. Youmaker draws about 1.5 million unique visitors per month, according to data from the website analytics company SimilarWeb. Sagebook attracted 38,000 monthly visitors and Right on Times sees 15,000, according to SimilarWeb data.

While small, the audience has grown quickly. Compared with last November, in January Youmaker’s traffic had increased by 42 percent, Sagebook’s increased by nearly 300 percent, and Right on Times’s traffic had jumped 715 percent, according to SimilarWeb data.

Much of the content on the sites is shared from The Epoch Times. For months, the websites have pushed stories and videos amplifying unfounded allegations of mass voter fraud.

On Sagebook, a stream of stories favorable to Mr. Trump and denouncing President Biden dominated the social network at the beginning of the year. “#StopTheSteal. This election isn’t over,” read one post on Sagebook.

“Anti CCP caravan at the Million MAGA March in Washington D.C. #TAKEDOWNTHECCP #stopthesteal #ChinaJoe,” said another post. It included a picture of a car with a sign stuck to its roof that read: “CCP spread Covid-19. Say no to communism.”

In January, Youmaker’s most viewed video pushed a conspiracy about Ashli Babbit, who was shot by a Capitol Police officer as she and a group of Mr. Trump’s supporters swarmed the Capitol; it was viewed over 400,000 times. Youmaker also powers video on The Epoch Times website.

After the inauguration of President Biden on Jan. 20, the websites switched their focus to publishing articles that criticized Mr. Biden and his administration.

“In major speech, Biden reveals his deep misunderstanding of foreign policy,” said a headline collected by the news aggregator Right on Times. Another aggregated article highlighted comments from Mike Pompeo, the former secretary of state, in which he criticized Mr. Biden’s policy shift toward China as “disheartening.”

The money behind Epoch Media, like the funding behind the new ventures, remains cloudy. Former employees previously told The New York Times that The Epoch Times was financed by a combination of subscriptions, ads and donations from wealthy Falun Gong practitioners.

“There are only a few people in this world, and few entities or organizations in this world, that could potentially build the infrastructure that would rival the big mainstream social platforms,” Dr. Donovan, the disinformation researcher, said.

“It’s critical that we keep an eye on these cloaked infrastructures to make sure it’s clear who owns them, how they are managed and how they play into the rest of our information ecosystem,” she added.

The tech companies said they enforced their policies against Epoch Media properties on their platforms as needed. The social networks have a history of removing posts and links that have ties to accounts and publications that it has banned in the past. They say they will continue to be on the lookout for spam or coordinated inauthentic behavior from the new sites.

“We’ve taken enforcement actions against Epoch Media and related groups several times,” a Facebook spokesman, Andy Stone, said in a statement. “If we discover that Epoch is engaging in deceptive actions in the future we will enforce against them.”

“All publishers must abide by our policies,” said Michael Aciman, a spokesman for Google, which owns YouTube. YouTube recently suspended The Epoch Times from its partner program for violating its policies on controversial issues and sensitive events and harmful and dangerous acts, and prohibited it from earning advertising money on the platform. “If we find content that violates those policies, we take the appropriate action.”

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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 01:36 pm
Biden’s ability to govern depends on abandoning any hope of reconciliation with the GOP.

This is a good article by Fintan O'Toole in the New York Review of Books — you can register at the site and read the whole article for free.

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(...) How do you govern in a democracy where one of the two main parties is incapable of escaping its own willing embrace of despotism and anarchy, and where such a party—through the system of grossly unequal representation in the Senate, the gerrymandering of House districts, the packing of the courts, and the suppression of voters—is able to embed itself as a minority that can frustrate the will of the majority? The obvious, and accurate, answer is: with great difficulty. But you also do so by a relentless and unmerciful application of the attitude that Biden in 2007 hoped always to avoid: questioning the basic decency of your opponents. When the opposition cannot separate itself from the far-right movement that would, in McConnell’s terms, “damage our republic forever,” it is folly to pretend otherwise.

This is why, in spite of his inevitable acquittal, the Senate trial of Donald Trump should not be seen as a sideshow or a distraction, but rather as the foundational act for the new regime. Everybody knew that Trump would not be convicted because his party remains, well, his party. But this did not make the trial meaningless. On the contrary, it functioned superbly as an act of definition. It was, in effect, “for the record,” but that record is a vividly awful enactment of what Lincoln’s “rule of a minority, as a permanent arrangement,” looks like in the flesh—and sounds like to the ear. When the lead House impeachment manager, Jamie Raskin, spoke of “a sound I will never forget: the sound of pounding on the door like a battering ram,” he was composing the real overture to the Biden presidency. That pounding on the door is the bassline over which the president must write his own song. It should not be muted or muffled by false amity or forgotten for the sake of unachievable harmony. (...)
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 01:56 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

We's all imperfect.

I'm now watching to see whether Manchin and Sinema can be cajoled into sanity on the filibuster. That's citical.

Sinema is crazy, Man in - well, he has always "enjoyed" the power he has over the Dems. He will never forego that power!
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 02:06 pm
@hightor,
The only thing clearly seen here is the childish Republican obsession with Pelosi, who apparently frightens them:
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This Radical Feminist Witch is just about as Evil as they come. This Jezebel hides in plain sight, just as all wolves in sheep’s clothing do, with the cloak of religion, Catholicism, draped over her putrid flesh!

Be careful you don't attract her attention, she'll come suck your blood in the middle of the night muhahahaha 👹
snood
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 03:24 pm
So will all the MAGATs and Qanons and various and sundries who call Biden’s presidency “illegitimate” be returning their $1400 checks? I mean, anyone who thinks the administration is a fraud won’t want anything to do with those checks, right?
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 03:32 pm
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Putin: US Capitol unrest was a 'stroll'

By The Associated Press

MOSCOW -- Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday characterized the January insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump as a “stroll.”

Putin made the comment in a meeting on increasing investment activity, during which he said Russia is interested in stability in the United States.

“Some of the people who took a stroll to the U.S. Congress — 150 people were arrested, they face imprisonment from 15 to 25 years. Will all these internal controversies end there or not? We do not know, but we want it to end, because we are interested in stable relations with all our main partners,” Putin said.
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https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-us-capitol-unrest-stroll-76392275?cid=clicksource_4380645_3_heads_hero_live_headlines_hed

Who is kidding who, if this had of happened in Russia, all participants would have either been killed out right or sentence for life to a Siberian gulag!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 03:35 pm
@BillW,
When I saw the word childish I automatically assumed it was one of Oralloy’s posts.

It just shows how repetitive he is.

Obviously he wouldn’t accuse Republicans of being it, just everyone else.
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 04:00 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzy, it is sometimes difficult to untangle quotes in this forum. I believe the "childish" was a defining quote made.by hightor about the following quote regarding MS Pelosi. I fully agree with his observation in this regard. The finally statement is my observation!

As far as my observation being childish, well yeah! It was meant to be so.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 04:33 pm
@BillW,
Of course, you shouldn’t have to avoid using words because someone else does them to death.
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 04:44 pm
@snood,
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various and sundries who call Biden’s presidency “illegitimate” be returning their $1400 checks?


Biden couldn't legitimately be called anything, right about now, other than a talking head, who is forbidden from talking. The rest of the planet got their "stimulus" cheques at the start of the epidemic, and if Pelosi and Pencil-neck hadn't vetoed every attempt be the former admin to get an economical rescue package through congress, you might have a leg to stand on.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 04:48 pm
@Builder,
You do spout a lot of gibberish. I guess as long as you believe it, it’s not totally worthless.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 04:57 pm
@izzythepush,
Yeah, I see what you mean. The bible is quoted ad infinitum!
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 10:10 am
@Rebelofnj,
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opponents are just waiting for a major scandal to use against Biden
But as their chances of finding such a thing are small to zero, other agitprop devices will be their strategy.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:03 am
@blatham,
Nonsense. There is plenty of stuff to impeach Mr. Biden over.

Ukraine for example. Or for cheating in the election. Or merely because it's Friday afternoon.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:07 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Biden's ability to govern depends on abandoning any hope of reconciliation with the GOP.
This is a good article by Fintan O'Toole in the New York Review of Books -- you can register at the site and read the whole article for free.

Mr. Biden is a failure no matter which path he takes.

But he'll achieve even less by choosing the path of partisan extremism, so I'm glad he chose that path.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:10 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Paul Waldman had a good piece up yesterday on how Biden does not provide Republicans the sort of target a female or a black person or a loud "socialist" like Sanders provides. As a consequence, they are at a bit of a loss now on how to do their standard agitprop and who to use as the focus. As you suggest, Pelosi has been such a target for a long time (as Hillary was; note similarities in descriptions of the two) and so they default to her.

I've no problem with focusing impeachment efforts directly on Mr. Biden.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 11:12 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Even the whole saga regarding Hunter Biden's laptop fizzled before the election after Tucker Carlson made a plea to stop harassing him and his family. At this point, opponents are just waiting for a major scandal to use against Biden.

Just because Democrats whitewash their crimes doesn't mean there is nothing there to go after them for.

Let's have an independent prosecutor dig into the laptop issue and see what they can find.
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