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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
snood
 
  3  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 07:56 pm
Something I realized about Oralloy…
He’s actually committed to misunderstanding.
He has to defend misinformation and mischaracterization.

The moment he stops being completely wrong about everything; the moment he acknowledges any of the truths he reflexively fights against, his whole online raison d’etre crumbles.

Oralloy- the shining champion of stupid.

oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 08:38 pm
@snood,
So how come you are not capable of pointing out any untrue statements in my posts?

I mean, you are certainly good at spouting hot air with that big mouth of yours. But where is the actual substance in any of your posts?

And actually I'm a trillion times smarter than you are.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 08:40 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
rachel maddow shows your view of history is full of **** as she does so regularly

Wrong again. She does no such thing.



I should bill you for wasting my time with pointless videos.

All that video does is show how Afghanistan collapsed after Traitor Joe betrayed them. It does not contradict anything in any of my posts.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 08:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
donald, made the deal withh the taliban to pull out, he started the mass pullout, and boasted to his mkaga rally crowds he was doing it and it would be virtually impossiblke for anyone alkse to stop it,

Nonsense. Traitor Joe was not helpless to stop the pullout. He was not bound to follow through on Mr. Trump's bad ideas.


MontereyJack wrote:
maddow as usual uses trump's actual videotape to show just how wrong you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAHSdhO_7A

I'm not watching another one of these unless you pay me. But nothing in any Trump video can contradict the fact that Traitor Joe decided to follow through on Mr. Trump's terrible idea.


MontereyJack wrote:
as usual

Nope. You are the one with the history of always being wrong. My history is of always being right.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 10:58 pm
@oralloy,
Out of curiosity, when did you ever receive a paycheck for an actual job. Lifelong SSI doesn't count, that just means one of your parents actually paid taxes because they had 'employment' and received a pay check.

Where oh where, does a person with no work history or evidence of achievement gets the creds to be paid for non-existent skill. But, that's business as usual for fake patriots and people who only want to tear this country down, because they don't have the skill, motivation or morality to be truthful or productive......in other words....nihilism groupies. Its similar to being an arsonist, neither group ever thinks the flames of destruction could take them down, it's just too exciting sitting back and watching the destruction...
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:10 pm
@oralloy,
trump actually signed a binding agreement. biden honored his predecessor's agreement. that''s what you're supposed to do in intenational relations. Trump was the traitor, if there is one. and not surprisingly you won't watch anything that proves you're wrong. but we all knew that anyway. You're wayout in fantasy land again. and trump by his wn words set inmoation the fall of the afghan government, which we wasted billions of dollars and thousands of lives on to prop up and was always a paper tiger.
edgarblythe
 
  5  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:11 pm
Trump ending the war was one of the few things he got right in his entire lifetime.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
trump actually signed a binding agreement. biden honored his predecessor's agreement. that''s what you're supposed to do in intenational relations.

Traitor Joe was not bound by anything that Mr. Trump signed.


MontereyJack wrote:
Trump was the traitor, if there is one.

Traitor Joe is the person who betrayed Afghanistan.


MontereyJack wrote:
and not surprisingly you won't watch anything that proves you're wrong. but we all knew that anyway.

Nothing in that video proves me wrong.


MontereyJack wrote:
You're way out in fantasy land again.

You are the only person here with a history of always being wrong. I have a history of always being correct.


MontereyJack wrote:
and trump by his own words set in motion the fall

Wrong. Traitor Joe is the person who set the fall in motion.


MontereyJack wrote:
of the afghan government, which we wasted billions of dollars and thousands of lives on to prop up

You can blame Traitor Joe for that waste.


MontereyJack wrote:
and was always a paper tiger.

They were doing fine until Traitor Joe betrayed them.
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BillW
 
  2  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:12 pm
@MontereyJack,
theRump actually said the leaders of the Taliban were great guys, in fact, he was gonna invite them to Camp David!
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:13 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Trump ending the war was one of the few things he got right in his entire lifetime.

Betraying our allies is an atrocity that only a progressive could support.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Sat 21 Aug, 2021 11:15 pm
@oralloy,
trump did it first and worst. biden followed the agreement trump made ansd signed.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Sun 22 Aug, 2021 02:53 am
If the moderators see fit to leave the messages up, then the proper response will be to respond to the messages in kind.
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georgeob1
 
  1  
Mon 23 Aug, 2021 11:49 am
Just tuned in here for a whimsical look after a long time away. Much has changed in the world in the interim : that also appears to be in the case on the political threads on A2K. The posting population appears to have declined to just a few hard core members, most (apart from Oralloy and a couple of others) apparently ardent Biden/progressive Democrat supporters.

The Biden Administration (and sadly our country) increasingly appears to be facing a very difficult and challenging crisis. Confidence in our President himself and the actions of his administration are (deservedly in my view) at a low ebb, and, based on recent poll results, still falling.

Many issues involved here.
The contrast between the rather authoritarian actions of the current government regarding the COVID pandemic and the starkly different laxity of their policies on the same matter at our increasingly chaotic southern border, continues unabated. Lots of largely inescapable complexity and uncertainty in this or any viral pandemic. but it would be very hard to accuse the Administration of any consistent commentary or approach to this challenge or the tradeoffs inevitably involved in actins to contain it.
The continuing increase in violent crime in major American cities is a cause for growing public concern. The evident connection of this rise with Progressive Democrat policies intended to achieve greater "social equity" and the disproportionate victimization of minority communities that has resulted is increasingly evident to all, and continues to undermine confidence in the current government.
On a perhaps more ominous matter The increasingly sad and pathetic unfolding of a totally unnecessary debacle in Afghanistan itself appears to be fast approaching a catastrophe for the country. Biden has deflected questions regarding the breathtaking ineptitude of his exit plan from Afghanistan by defending the exit itself. That isn't the issue here. The obviously flawed sequence of panned events in the exit started with the quick (and as it now appears , very disorganized) removal of our combat capability, and was followed with the current chaotic efforts to remove tens of thousands of American and NATO Ally staff, plus former Afghan employees through a single runway airfield in a city which we were no longer able to defend. A Plan which former UK PM Tony Blair this morning described as "imbecilic, and which any competent Military leader should have rejected out of hand. (itself a further cause for concern for the quality of Biden's residential appointments.) We have seen expressions of contempt for these actions from senior officials in the UK, German and French governments. The character of our NATO Alliance has been badly damaged, and the freedom of action and aggression of major competitors, China, and Russia seriously enhanced.

The interesting irony now now that Biden's chief Political asset iappears VP Kamilla Harris. A president's best defense in an Impeachment is an obviously incompetent successor.

I take no pleasure in reciting these follies. We will all equally face the consequences of them.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Mon 23 Aug, 2021 11:58 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
the current chaotic efforts to remove tens of thousands of American and NATO Ally staff, plus former Afghan employees through a single runway airfield

Traitor Joe doesn't appear interested in rescuing any Afghanis who worked for our troops as interpreters, and seems to be planning to rescue only American citizens.

I haven't heard if he plans to betray our NATO allies as well. I would not be surprised though if he told our NATO allies that they would be responsible for withdrawing their own people.

This is just as horrific as when a Democratic Congress once cut off aid to South Vietnam and let them fall. It strengthens my resolve to always vote for conservative politicians.

Progressives suck.
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Mon 23 Aug, 2021 02:02 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:


Just tuned in here for a whimsical look after a long time away. Much has changed in the world in the interim : that also appears to be in the case on the political threads on A2K. The posting population appears to have declined to just a few hard core members, most (apart from Oralloy and a couple of others) apparently ardent Biden/progressive Democrat supporters.

The Biden Administration (and sadly our country) increasingly appears to be facing a very difficult and challenging crisis. Confidence in our President himself and the actions of his administration are (deservedly in my view) at a low ebb, and, based on recent poll results, still falling.

Many issues involved here.
The contrast between the rather authoritarian actions of the current government regarding the COVID pandemic and the starkly different laxity of their policies on the same matter at our increasingly chaotic southern border, continues unabated. Lots of largely inescapable complexity and uncertainty in this or any viral pandemic. but it would be very hard to accuse the Administration of any consistent commentary or approach to this challenge or the tradeoffs inevitably involved in actins to contain it.
The continuing increase in violent crime in major American cities is a cause for growing public concern. The evident connection of this rise with Progressive Democrat policies intended to achieve greater "social equity" and the disproportionate victimization of minority communities that has resulted is increasingly evident to all, and continues to undermine confidence in the current government.
On a perhaps more ominous matter The increasingly sad and pathetic unfolding of a totally unnecessary debacle in Afghanistan itself appears to be fast approaching a catastrophe for the country. Biden has deflected questions regarding the breathtaking ineptitude of his exit plan from Afghanistan by defending the exit itself. That isn't the issue here. The obviously flawed sequence of panned events in the exit started with the quick (and as it now appears , very disorganized) removal of our combat capability, and was followed with the current chaotic efforts to remove tens of thousands of American and NATO Ally staff, plus former Afghan employees through a single runway airfield in a city which we were no longer able to defend. A Plan which former UK PM Tony Blair this morning described as "imbecilic, and which any competent Military leader should have rejected out of hand. (itself a further cause for concern for the quality of Biden's residential appointments.) We have seen expressions of contempt for these actions from senior officials in the UK, German and French governments. The character of our NATO Alliance has been badly damaged, and the freedom of action and aggression of major competitors, China, and Russia seriously enhanced.

The interesting irony now now that Biden's chief Political asset iappears VP Kamilla Harris. A president's best defense in an Impeachment is an obviously incompetent successor.

I take no pleasure in reciting these follies. We will all equally face the consequences of them.



George, it is GREAT to see ya. You have been missed. I was away for a long while myself...so I know how exciting it can be during a homecoming. (Which, although we agree on damn near everything, I hope will last for a long time.)

The country is in better hands now that Trump is gone, but we have lots and lots of problems left. Almost every president who has followed a right-leaning president has to spend most of his early time in office cleaning up the mess the predecessor has left. And Joe Biden, following the worst president ever for our country, is no exception.

I hope things start to improve soon, but we've got a long way to go.
roger
 
  2  
Mon 23 Aug, 2021 03:41 pm
@georgeob1,
I am hardly an ardent Biden supporter. I did vote against Trump, though.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Mon 23 Aug, 2021 03:44 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Good to hear from you as well, Frank. We don't agree at all on the current situation. Biden is, on his best day, a lifelong lightweight and professional politician (like Bernie Sanders, he's never had a job outside government) who has enriched his family through the misuse of his official powers throughout a long career. Sadly, on most days he is a good deal less than that - a liar and delusional somewhat demented old man.

We are indeed a long way from good times , as you say. However, we are headed for much worse.
We're near the end of a long economic expansion & accompanying Bull Market. A recession will follow in normal course fairly soon, one which might be, like most, short and followed by a fairly quick recovery. However the planned government spending and monetary policies being pursued by our "progressive" government are perfectly designed to recreate the "stagflation" of the post Jimmy Carter era, and a long term inflationary period with little economic growth.
The continuing disintegration of local law enforcement in major (mostly Democrat controlled) cities is rapidly destroying public confidence in government, and injuring mostly the minority populations they were nominally intended to benefit.
Our international relations and stature in the world have been badly damaged, and open contempt for the recent actions of our President regarding the ongoing Afghanistan debacle has been expressed by senior officials of Major allied governments. China, Russia and Iran have been emboldened. -- all to our serious detriment. The situation in Afghanistan is likely to get much worse in the next few weeks, as we approach the Aug 31 redline recently announced by the Taliban. Biden has yet to acknowledge or address the core issues in his ill conceived and poorly planned Afghanistan withdrawal , is making vaguely stated promises he can't keep, and apparently ignoring obvious facts (including recent poll results regarding fast-declining public confidence in his ability to lead the country.

It is a very sad tragicomedy, and nothing good will likely come out of it, (except the likely collapse of Democrat legislative initiatives in the Congress as Moderate Democrats run for cover,)
 

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