Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

I'm not making a case that America should turn its back on foreign scientists. Yet it makes sense for America to only hire the foreign scientists willing to express loyalty to America or adhere to Western values.

I know it sounds like a blinkered view in today's globalized world. Yet it's by no means a small-bore issue in light of the fact that some brainy foreigners who used to work for celebrated tech companies in America have returned to their own nations.

Worst yet, ProPublica, which is an independent, non-profit newsroom-it's also pro-Biden-published an article saying some foreign-born scientists still conduct research with some foreign organisations on the sly despite being American citizens.

I'd argue that progressives have no reason to gainsay ProPublica's findings since ProPublica is a liberal news outlet.

I'm still petrified by a liberal writer's claim that conservative news outlets gain the upper hand in America when you only have Fox News speaking for the GOP.

ProPublica, Politico, BuzzFeed, Quartz, Business insider, and Vanity Fair also side with the Democratic Party.

The liberal Vox is just a simulacrum of Fox News. I wouldn't even want to log on to its website. NPR seems to be another provocateur; it also eschews balanced reporting even it still claims to be a purveyor of quality journalism.

Welcome to the dumbing down of our 21st century.

I searched for the things you said were quotes in Google and nothing came up, assume I'm a decent enough librarian.

I followed your Speers Hunt interview transcript link and I cannot find these phrases:
"biggest global"
"history of science" or even the word "history"
"emergency approval"
"pandemic laws" or even the word "pandemic"

So you seem to be misquoting (unintentionally or not) or you've provided the wrong link.

In the opening question from Speers he says:


This seems to contradict entirely your claim that the approval process was bypassed by 'pandemic laws'.

The TGA's Provisional Approval Process predates the pandemic (introduced 2018) and is not limited to vaccines (covid or otherwise). In fact the first drug given it was a treatment for bowel cancer back in 2019.

Yep - I'm Pfizer two jabs as of 18 June - courtesy of vaccine hesitancy and a call out from Cairns Base Hospital for anyone willing to get jabbed before their shipment expired. Hope you survive without it if that's what you're committed to. Also hope you avoid long COVID.

Your comprehension is clearly lacking, Hinge.

It's down the bottom of the first link.

I had the covid late March last year. Late covid was a whole different ball game than the virus itself, and after many heart tests, I'm still awaiting the CT angiogram because the specialists don't have a clue what's happening.

I'm actually quite used to waking up with a heart rate of 150 in the wee small hours. It's my "new normal". Knowing my blood pressure is fine (got the test kit here) lets me rest easy.

You only sent one link - to the Speers Hunt interview transcript - as I said that transcript does not mention your 'quotes'. Down the bottom of it Hunt is talking about Brittany Higgins - so yes my comprehension is lacking, or your ability to communicate is.

Terrible to hear about your experience with this a*hole disease. Hang in there.

I quoted directly from the first link. Never saw a thing about Higgins.

There's three links in that post.

Doing regular quinine to help with the symptoms.

Missus stumbled upon juicing the whole orange, for interesting "side effects".

You've made the rash assumption that I've read every post you've made. I was replying to a specific post. When I asked for links you kindly provided them but they did not contain the quotes you included in your post that I was responding to. I hope that makes sense. I hope there is gin involved in the quinine ingestion.

Last paragraph. I even put it in bold, in case you miss it, again. Gin is good.

https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/interview-with-david-speers-on-abc-insiders-on-the-covid-19-vaccine-rollout

DAVID SPEERS:
So the first goal is trying to protect against the virus coming into Australia, that’s vaccinating the quarantine workers, border workers and so on. The longer-term goal is herd immunity?

GREG HUNT:
Well, obviously that is a long-term goal, but one of the things we’ve been cautious of is that you have three factors.

You have coverage, you also have the question of the transmission capacity and impact, although the evidence coming out of international studies now, both clinical trials and real-world data, is that the different vaccines are showing a strong transmission impact.

But we always have to be aware of the capacity of the virus to mutate, and we have to look at what is called the longevity of the protection with regards to the antibodies that are developed, and the world doesn’t know that answer.

The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever, and we will have enormous amounts of data.

Thank you!

The issue was you quoted "biggest global trial of a new technology in the history of science" - but it was 'largest global' and nothing about 'in the history of science'. No wonder my Ctrl-Fs failed.

Nothing in there about circumventing TGA processes or pandemic laws though (or is there?)

Biden reckons he's made it to the senate a hundred and eighty years ago?



As an aside, I don't like Jones, and know he's a paedophile.

No, that doesn't make any sense at all. The material nature of scientific facts makes "loyalty to America" or adherence to "Western values" unnecessary. You make it sound as if the scientists are supposed to come up with "politically correct" findings. That's how it worked in the USSR.

You're biyching sboout a president whose alpproval numbers are running 2o pollints abkove the buffoon who preceded him who lied compulsivel,y every time he opened his mouth. Biden's working out jkust fione, thank you very much. biden makes an occasional fluff, trump was a constant fluff.

Builder's memory is failing — he's posted this dumb video before.

I'd say that sounds naive. Other nations take this matter seriously; they only hire a foreigner to work for them if they find that they have shared values. Meaning they have to make sure the foreigner is sympathetic to their ideology. Case in point: a far-left American journalist left America for an Asian nation years ago; he has become an America basher working at a national English newspaper in that nation ever since then. He wouldn't have been hired if he had been a conservative journalist.

Fauci has defended gain-of-function research several times, yet he still can't tell the American people why would taxpayers fund such projects involving foreign scientists。 And concerns over the potential theft of related technology are also arising. What if foreign governments use this technology to make biological weapons against America and its allies? Syria did this by using the nerve gas sarin as the chemical behind the attack. Russia also did this to Alexey Navalny.

I think you just can't make light of this fact.

Yes, science is beyond borders. Science has thrived in America because America holds high the banner of academic freedom. Political correctness would kill the freedom and dampen the fire of enlightenment. America, or any country, doesn't afford the luxury of such correctness.

No one wants to impinge on academic freedom. We are talking about IP rights and foreign governments efforts to infiltrate America. Fauci doesn't want to tell the truth about his personal relations with some foreign scientists. He even exchanged emails with a foreign scientist last year, during which Trump drew ire for reacting slowly to the threat of covid-19. Fauci didn't even ask his foreign partner about the origins of covid-19. Fauci can't be trusted at all. He said it's okay not to wear masks after getting the jab. He ate his words later on, arguing that it's critical for people to wear it after getting the jab. Now he is talking about the Delta variant. I think he knows something we don't know; he just doesn't want to spill the beans.

Fauci's evasive answer, if anything, only gives credence to the view that the whole event has nothing to do with nature at all. It may have been a man-made virus at first.

We also can't rule out the possibility that we have a terrorist group using this virus to put people into a swivet and chip away at their faith about capitalism. You can find such groups in movies featuring James Bond. Which nation is the biggest victim of this crisis? Answer: America.

Are you still trying to blame Trump for this? He's not the president anymore. You have to blame Fauci. He is actually a dodgy person. I think he is a fame-seeker even there is no evidence to show that he connives with foreign scientists.

Chekhov would have written a novel about such shifty characters.