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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
goldberg
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:20 pm
@oralloy,
I still insist that liberalism has nothing to do with progressism, albeit it's a branch of present-day liberal thinking. Liberals and conservatives actually have some shared values, particularly when it comes to promoting such principles, say, free markets, a free press, independent judiciary, and the right to vote. Conservatives favor the ideal of “small” or “limited” government. Progressives in America want to have a despotic regime that controls everything.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:21 pm
@goldberg,
I even support many libertarian ideas(until the recipents of these ideas sometimes leave the planet)
goldberg
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:25 pm
@oralloy,
Well, Biden is too old to be a president. He's a nice person, not a qualified leader. I mean you need a strong leader in America. Biden seems to be willing to play the role of peace-maker within the Democratic Party. I'd say that's unwise. He should say no to the progressive wing if AOL and her black friends want to erode the rule of law.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:36 pm
@farmerman,
There is nothing wrong with some libertarian ideas. Problem is some people just want to use it to seize power and then line their own pockets. It's incumbent on politicians to take care of the needy. And venal politicians should be weeded out.

It seems to be a different case in reality, thanks to the proliferation of partisanship and patronage. I watched a Japanese drama last year. It has a scene in which a lawyer can't indict a bent politician simply because the prime minister in Japan wants to protect him.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:43 pm
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
I still insist that liberalism has nothing to do with progressivism,

I agree. I refuse to refer to progressives as liberals.


goldberg wrote:
albeit it's a branch of present-day liberal thinking.

I don't perceive any such connection.
goldberg
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 08:56 pm
@oralloy,
Well, some scribes call it left liberalism. Be frankly, there is no perfect model, including capitalism. Yet capitalism is still much better than other isms since it doesn't want to curb civil liberties or personal freedoms. I know some people would mention the election law in Georgia to rebuke me for claiming that capitalism is much better than other isms. Well, most Americans are still allowed to vote in America, right? That's not the case in most nations outside America.


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goldberg
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 09:04 pm
It's just like asking a pauper living in Cambodia not to watch Fox News . Fox News in Cambodia? Are you kidding? The poor in Cambodia don't even have ample food supplies. Only some people living there are able to watch foreign TV networks since they are minted.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 10:59 pm
Is It Finally Time to Begin Calling Trumpism Fascist? [Ed Kilgore}

One of the real quandaries of Trump-era politics has been how to describe the school of thought (or action) its central figure leads. The more it has become apparent that the 45th president and his adulatory followers do not represent just a temporary phenomenon or a minor variation on an old conservative theme, the more tempting it has become to compare Trumpism to right-wing authoritarian movements outside of and antagonistic to democracy, which generally go by the term fascism. This temptation has been felt by Never Trump conservatives anxious to save their own tradition from contamination by the great orange demagogue, and by progressives who wish to powerfully distinguish the threat posed by MAGA folks from the conservatives of the past they’ve deplored. By and large, all of us Trump-despising opinion-spinners have avoided the f-word as a general descriptor. But that may now be changing.

Beginning in the wee hours of November 4, 2020, when Donald Trump began his defiant effort to overturn his reelection defeat by hook or by crook, the MAGA movement has become more and more explicitly anti-democratic and insurrectionist. There was reason to hope the “fever” (to use Barack Obama’s customary term for right-wing extremism) might break after Trump was finally forced from office, or at least ease its death grip on the Republican Party.

Instead, in exile from the White House, Trump has become steadily more mendacious and irresponsible, and for all the efforts of GOP leaders to “move on,” his status as the de facto leader of his party has only strengthened. But more importantly, Trumpism is now even stronger than Trump, as evidenced by the near-national drive of Republicans to vindicate the “big lie” of the stolen election of 2020 via efforts to strong-arm voters and election officials in the future, and to inculcate an atmosphere of cultural panic over wildly exaggerated phenomena like “wokeness” and “critical race theory” and “cancel culture.” Put these two developments together and you have a Republican Party bent on denying the legitimacy of its opponents, whom it treats as incorrigible thieves and tyrants, and a threat to civilization and liberty itself.

That we are dealing with something more alarming than politics as usual was signaled by our current, normally mild-mannered, president, who said this in Philadelphia about the twin drive of Republicans to make voting harder and election subversion easier:

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[H]ear me clearly: There is an unfolding assault taking place in America today — an attempt to suppress and subvert the right to vote in fair and free elections, an assault on democracy, an assault on liberty, an assault on who we are — who we are as Americans.

For, make no mistake, bullies and merchants of fear and peddlers of lies are threatening the very foundation of our country.

It gives me no pleasure to say this. I never thought in my entire career I’d ever have to say it …

The assault on free and fair elections is just such a threat, literally. I’ve said it before: We’re are facing the most significant test of our democracy since the Civil War. That’s not hyperbole.


Former George W. Bush speechwriter and veteran Never Trumper David Frum explains how Trumpism has become much more dangerous since its leader left office, particularly now that the former president is praising, rather than ignoring or explaining away, the January 6 insurrectionists:

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[T]hrough the Trump years, it seemed sensible to eschew comparisons to the worst passages of history. I repeated over and over again a warning against too-easy use of the F-word, fascism: “There are a lot of stops on the train line to bad before you get to Hitler Station.”

Two traits have historically marked off European-style fascism from more homegrown American traditions of illiberalism: contempt for legality and the cult of violence. Presidential-era Trumpism operated through at least the forms of law. Presidential-era Trumpism glorified military power, not mob attacks on government institutions. Post-presidentially, those past inhibitions are fast dissolving. The conversion of Ashli Babbitt into a martyr, a sort of American Horst Wessel, expresses the transformation. Through 2020, Trump had endorsed deadly force against lawbreakers: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts,” he tweeted on May 29, 2020. Babbitt broke the law too, but not to steal a TV. She was killed as she tried to disrupt the constitutional order, to prevent the formalization of the results of a democratic election.


My colleague Jonathan Chait also suggested recently that Trump’s praise for the January 6 insurrectionists was a turning point for Trumpism and the Republican Party:

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The anti-anti-Trump right has dismissed the insurrection as overblown, a protest march gone bad, perhaps ill-considered but never posing any serious threat to the republic. The far right’s highlighting of Babbitt’s death sends a different message: The insurrection was good. Babbitt’s effort to penetrate the defensive barrier was brave, and the stopping of her charge a crime.

By throwing himself behind this message, Trump is endorsing the most radical interpretation of his presidency. January 6 was not a minor misstep after a successful era, as fans like Mike Pence and Lindsey Graham now say. It was the heroic culmination of a righteous uprising.


There are other features of post-2020 Trumpism that bear the foul aroma of fascism. There’s the stabbed-in-the-back foundational myth, which for Germans generally meant the “betrayal of the nation” during or after World War I; for Trumpists, it’s the 2020 stolen election. There’s the mass petite bourgeois resentment of “cosmopolitan” elites. There’s the fabrication of opponents’ crimes to justify their own, via one Reichstag fire moment after the other. There’s the leader’s cult of personality and will-to-power machismo. And there’s the united front, with reactionary religious interests and radical elements among the police and military veterans.

Though Frum — and above, yours truly — used analogies from Germany to bring home the chilling point, it’s best to steer clear of Hitler and his Nazis in trying to find precedents for where Trumpism appears to be heading. Except on its neo-Nazi fringe, the MAGA movement is not guilty of anti-Semitism at all (it is, in fact, deeply supportive of Israel), which is hardly a small thing in comparing it to the fascist movement in which exterminationist anti-Semitism was absolutely central. And much as I fear that, given full power to do what they want, Trumpists would love to beat or jail BLM or feminist or voting-rights activists along with members of the hated media, I can’t imagine they have genocide in their bones. There is wisdom as well as prudence in the Jewish community’s resistance to any Holocaust or Nazis analogies that cheapen the significance of what happened in German-occupied Europe.

Frum appears to think Argentina’s Peronist movement is a good example of Trumpism’s spirit and trajectory:

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After Perón lost power, Peronism became a myth of a lost golden age—a fantasy of restoration and redemption—and always a rejection of the frustrations of normal politics, of the tedium of legality. Who needed policies when the solution to every problem was a magic name? Politicians who hoped for the old leader’s blessing trudged to his place of exile, were photographed with him, and then sabotaged by him. The only plan he followed was somehow to force himself again upon his country, one way or another.


That does sound familiar, doesn’t it? I sometimes hear echoes of Franco’s Spanish military insurrection of 1936 in the Trumpist habit of depicting left-of-center politicians and journalists as bent on Marxist totalitarianism and extinction of Christianity. There was a whiff of Mussolini’s March on Rome in the January 6 insurrection. And Trump’s tilt of U.S. foreign policy in the direction of anti-democratic forces everywhere is reminiscent of fascist fellow travelers everywhere who justified repression and violence in the fight against the international left. It is true that Trump has nothing like a systematic philosophy or governing agenda. But then most fascist movements really began with a leader, a grievance, and a demonized enemy rather than a policy program.

Perhaps the lurch of Trumpism into something resembling fascism will abate or even reverse itself, particularly as its Republican captive audience comes to believe it can win power by more conventional means. I’m not sure I will believe it until Trump supporters abandon the big lie about 2020, stop pursuing anti-democratic tactics, and demobilize their, well, fascistic rhetoric.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 11:11 pm
@blatham,
It's finally time to begin calling progressives fascists.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jul, 2021 11:36 pm
Trump is still the most dangerous man in the country.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 02:34 am
@oralloy,
our top generals called trump a fascist. as usual you've got your politics running in full reversal of fact.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 02:40 am
@goldberg,
your japanese drama could have been modelled on the trump admn.
snood
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 03:42 am
For anyone who doubts Joe Manchin’s ties to wealthy right wing donors.

Joe Manchin accepts donations from FOX News PAC
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 05:13 am
HCR wrote:
Today Americans began to see the concrete effects of the American Rescue Plan show up in their bank accounts, as the expanded child tax credit goes into effect for one year. Through this program, the Child Tax Credit increased to $3,000 per child aged 6 to 17 and $3,600 per child under 6. All working families will get the full credit if they make up to $150,000 for a couple or $112,500 for a family with a single parent. The government sent payments for almost 60 million children on Thursday, totaling $15 billion.

This is a really big deal. In America, one in seven children lives in poverty. This measure is expected to cut that poverty nearly in half. Studies suggest that addressing childhood poverty continues to pay off over time, as it helps adults achieve higher levels of mobility.

But this huge achievement of the Biden presidency—every single Republican voted against it—has taken a backseat in the news to two blockbuster stories about the former president.

The first is the continuing information coming from a forthcoming book by Pulitzer Prize–winning Washington Post reporters Carol D. Leonnig and Philip Rucker called I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year. Their eye-popping accounts of the days surrounding the January 6 insurrection broke last night with accounts of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, comparing the former president to Hitler and fearing that he was going to refuse to leave office.

In response, the former president and his supporters are attacking Milley. Fox News Channel personality Tucker Carlson showed an image of Milley with a gay pride flag, an anti-fascist sign, and a reference to “thoroughly modern Milley,” a play on a popular film title from 1967.

The former president released a long and rambling statement, rehashing past grievances, that nonetheless had a statement that stood out. “I never threatened, or spoke about, to anyone, a coup of our Government,” he said. “...if I was going to do a coup, one of the last people I would want to do it with is General Mark Milley.” It was an odd denial.

Also interesting in the book excerpts were stories that suggest why Republican leaders were eager to avoid an investigation into the insurrection.

Accounts in the excerpts told of Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) confronting Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH) during the insurrection. “That f--king guy Jim Jordan,” she allegedly told Milley. “That son of a bitch.... While these maniacs are going through the place, I’m standing in the aisle and he said, ‘We need to get the ladies away from the aisle. Let me help you.’ I smacked his hand away and told him, ‘Get away from me. You f--king did this.’” Cheney has accepted a position on the House select committee to investigate the insurrection, set up after the Republicans killed the bipartisan, independent commission.

Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT), who almost ran into the rioters, also blamed his colleagues. While they were being sheltered in a secure room, he allegedly went up to Senators Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Ron Johnson (R-WI), who had supported Trump’s challenge to the election, and told them: “This is what you have caused.”

The second big story came this morning in the form of an article from The Guardian, which purported to reveal leaked documents from the Kremlin in which Putin and Russian leaders agreed in January 2016 to make Trump president to sow discord in the United States in order to get U.S. sanctions against Russia for its invasion of Crimea overturned. The documents described Trump as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex.”

There are many reasons to be skeptical of this “leak,” but, in the end, whether true or not, it doesn’t tell us much that we don't already know. There is ample evidence, articulated most clearly in the Senate Intelligence Report on Russian interference in the 2016 election, that Russia worked hard to get Trump elected in 2016.

What is interesting about this story is, if you will pardon this fan of Sherlock Holmes, “the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.” In that old Arthur Conan Doyle tale, the key to the mystery was that the family dog didn’t bark at an intruder in the night and therefore must have known the villain.

Shortly after The Guardian story broke, Trump himself announced that he and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) were meeting over general issues, although these two big stories simply had to be on the agenda, not least because McCarthy was caught on tape in June 2016 saying: “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump.” (Dana Rohrabacher was a Republican representative from California.) Later today, through his spokesperson, Trump appeared to call the story “fake news,” along with his usual descriptions of stories of his connections to Russia, but, despite a flurry of statements he issued today, these comments were not issued as a statement but were only quoted in his spokesperson’s tweets.

As near as I can tell, the former president is the only Republican who has responded to the story. Other leaders are talking about the border, masks, Cuba, and Britney Spears. Their lack of a response to a deeply damaging story about the leader of their party suggests to me that, at best, they are hoping the story will disappear and, at worst, they believe it’s true.

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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 05:19 am
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goldberg
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 05:36 am
@MontereyJack,
Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors would say it's not a bit infra dig for politicians and social activists to take backhanders. That's what she did. That's why Bernie Sanders has four houses. That's why AOC owns a car produced by Tesla.

No one is innocent in politics.
goldberg
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 05:53 am
@MontereyJack,
I also read a Japanese novel way back, which is written by a well-liked novelist. This novelist just can't resist the temptation to tell readers how Japanese politicians peculate the public money. They also behave like lusty beasts when they are alone with pneumatic girls.

Some Korean movies also feature such scenes. In one scene you see several portly politicians saunter into a room adorned with floor-to-ceiling windows and a mahogany table, with a group of nude girls standing not far from them. The host tells the politicians the girls are their gifts.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 06:06 am
@goldberg,
again, sounds a lot like the trump coterie, doesn't it? and do remember, it's called fiction because it is.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 06:09 am
@goldberg,
One of my neighbors owns a tesla. they're mainstream, and they're greener. good for AOC. So what?
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2021 07:47 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
our top generals called trump a fascist.

It is the nature of progressives to falsely accuse everyone of what they are themselves.


MontereyJack wrote:
as usual you've got your politics running in full reversal of fact.

As usual you are falsely accusing me of your own history of being wrong.
 

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