One event changes attitude in UK-----how strange

well thanks for your post George

I believe the last time I referred to Peak Oil you dismissed it as pseudo scientific fantasy. I really wish it was, but from all that I have read its not. Its a real phenomenum dictated by geology, not economics. And in my view it explains a great deal of what is going on around us today.

I agree that the 'organic utopia' is a myth.

But I think the next stage in our development as a society will be one of increasingly efficiency when it comes to energy and hydrocarbon usage.

As with most problems I suspect the answer to our woes will lie in a balance; reduced usage of oil, greater usage of renewables (or biking and walking), better recycling and efficiency.

Or, synthetic hydrocarbons/oils that are grown would provide a nice boost to a limited resource market. I'd like to say Hydrogen would do the same but I fear that we are much farther away from that then projected.

Cycloptichorn

Britain's home secretary, Charles Clarke, also said he had authorized a global list of suspects likely to be expelled from or barred entry into Britain if they were found to be "preaching, running a Web site or writing articles which are intended to foment or provoke terrorism."

The measures against what the police here call "preachers of hate" follow years of taunts by foreign intelligence services that British tolerance of radical clerics and terror suspects wanted in other places had turned London into "Londonistan" or "Beirut-on-Thames."

One cleric possibly affected by the new policy, which could take months to implement in the face of likely court challenges, is Abu Qatada, a Jordanian-born cleric who has been called in court documents a "right-hand-man" in Europe of Osama bin Laden and a spiritual guide to Al Qaeda.

Less than a month before the attacks, Britain's top intelligence and law enforcement officials concluded that "at present there is not a group with both the current intent and the capability to attack the U.K.," according to a confidential terror assessment.

In a separate BBC interview today, Mr. Livingstone was asked what had motivated the bombers and, in reply, blamed "80 years of western intervention into predominantly Arab lands because of the western need for oil."

Asked if he denounced the London bombers, he said he also denounced "those governments which use indiscriminate slaughter to advance their foreign policy, as we have occasionally seen with the Israeli government bombing areas from which a terrorist group will have come, irrespective of the casualties it inflicts, women, children and men."

"Under foreign occupation and denied the right to vote, denied the right to run your own affairs, often denied the right to work for three generations, I suspect that if it had happened here in England, we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves," he said.

The new policy which could take months to implement in the face of likely court challenges........were there any court challenges to the 4 lunatics who blew people up? Civilized people are severely handicapped when dealing with an ideology that knows no civilized rules........it makes me question whether or not we are intelligent enough to survive?????

It would appear to me that Tony Blair and the Home Secretary are taking most if not all the proper steps........who thinks the British people will support them. Will the news media support them or will the leftist media continue undermining the efforts to confront terrorism and the preachers of hate.?

Small blasts hit London transport

Thursday, July 21, 2005; Posted: 10:16 a.m. EDT (14:16 GMT)

England (CNN) -- Four "attempts at explosions" have been reported on three London Underground stations and a bus, two weeks after the July 7 terror attacks, the UK capital's police chief has said.

Scotland Yard also confirmed they were looking into an "incident" at University College Hospital, where armed officers have been deployed. Witnesses reported policemen with flak jackets entered the hospital along with dogs.

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Other people said they smelled sour smoke.

An explosives expert contacted by CNN said the "sour smell" reported by people coming out of the underground would likely have come from two sources: the rucksack catching fire; and the explosives themselves catching fire after the detonator failed to explode them. The explosives could actually burn and give a toxic smell.

george would appreciate your comments on this

http://dieoff.com/page140.pdf

UK Oil Cos Not Seen Affected By London Bomb Incidents
Thursday July 21, 12:17 PM EDT


LONDON -(Dow Jones)- U.K. oil companies are unlikely to see any impact from the latest London bombings, an analyst said.

"Their assets are outside (the U.K.) and they are used to risky countries," he said.

A series of four blasts or attempted blasts took place in Central London on Thursday, only two weeks after terrorist attacks killed over 50 people in the capital. The Metropolitan Police said there was no casualties on Thursday.

At 1529 GMT, the shares of Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSA), which is listed and partly based in London, and BP PLC (BP) (BP) were trading slightly lower. Shell was down 0.8% at 1,753 pence and BP was off 1.0% at 619 pence in an overall flat market.

But the shares had already dipped before the attacks. The dip follows the Chinese government's announcement that it would revalue its Yuan currency, sparking concerns that it would slow the country's oil consumption and hurt future profits.

Shell and BP operate in countries widely considered to be difficult operating environments such as Nigeria, Angola and Saudi Arabia, where a terrorist attack took place against a refinery last year.

In the long run, we do need to reduce our dependence on petroleum. However, this is a subject that abounds in misinformation and illusion. I am inclined to let economic forces operate and guide the technological developments we will need to implement the needed solutions.