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What superheroes and supervillains are popular that AREN'T DC or Marvel characters?

 
 
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 04:49 pm
I think there should be more superheroes and supervillains that are in line with 21st century culture. I don't mean LGBTQIA characters.

For example, there should be a character who derives special powers and/or abilities from being subjected to smartphone radiation, or a character who is or becomes a living video game avatar. Smartphones and video game avatars are part of 21st century culture.

That's what kids are into - current culture. It's been like that for decades.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:04 pm
@JGoldman10,
That would just make the character very outdated in a few years if it relies on whatever is the current trend. It is rare for any character that is based on current trends to have enduring popularity.

Marvel tried making heroes based on current culture this year, and they are already outdated. The first issue is not even out, and comic readers already don't care for the team.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/introducing-the-new-new-warriors
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:10 pm
@JGoldman10,
In addition, both DC and Marvel have been introducing LGBT+ characters since the 80s (retroactively for DC, since the 1940s), so it is already too late to stop both companies from using these characters.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:23 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Well you basically answered a question about pop culture references that I was going to ask. Pop culture references fall out of fashion and make things become dated eventually.

Are putting pop culture references in things really a good idea? They say entertainment reflects the times it's produced in.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:36 pm
@JGoldman10,
As I said to you many times before, it is not really a good idea to add pop culture references due to the risk of being outdated.

Disney's Oliver & Company (1988) had many references to the late 1980s when it was produced. The film nowadays is forgotten compared to Disney's other timeless films produced before and after the release of Oliver & Company.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:43 pm
@Rebelofnj,
That's what I thought.

The new Looney Tunes series on HBO Max is full of current pop culture references. The pop culture references are probably going to make the series dated when it ends.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:54 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Do dated things generally fall into (relative) obscurity?
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:55 pm
@JGoldman10,
Have you actually seen the New Looney Tunes shorts?

They don't have numerous pop culture references, if any at all. They barely feature modern technology except for cell phones. Even Sylvester's ghost catching machine in one short is just an old fashioned vacuum.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 05:59 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I saw a clip from one of them. I was going by what I read online about them.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 06:03 pm
@Rebelofnj,
So you actually haven't seen the proper show at all. I assumed you haven't since that would require you to subscribe to HBO MAX.

All of the shorts are very reminiscent of the 30s/40s original shorts. It would have been very distracting to add a reference from the 2010s or later.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 06:05 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

So you actually haven't seen the proper show at all. I assumed you haven't since that would require you to subscribe to HBO MAX.

Don't they have a handful of episodes on YouTube?
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 06:08 pm
@tsarstepan,
Only two full episodes (out of the released 10) and a few of the segments, not all.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 07:04 pm
In related news, DC announced today numerous films in production for 2021 and 2022, in addition to 2020's Wonder Woman 1984.

Wonder Woman 1984


The Suicide Squad, August 2021


The Batman, October 2021


Justice League, the 4 hour director's cut, 2021


The Flash film will feature Michael Keaton returning as 1989 Batman in a time travel plot.
https://deadline.com/2020/08/flash-movie-ezra-miller-andy-muschietti-barbara-muschietti-christina-hodson-warner-bros-dc-fandome-1203020587/

Black Adam, December 2021


Shazam 2: Fury of the Gods is set for November 2022
https://io9.gizmodo.com/shazam-2-reveals-its-full-title-and-a-surprising-cast-m-1844806278

Static Shock film in development
https://deadline.com/2020/08/reginald-hudlin-says-static-shock-movie-in-development-dc-fandome-1203020726/
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 08:11 pm
@Rebelofnj,
You didn't answer the question:

Do dated things generally fall into (relative) obscurity?
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 08:24 pm
@JGoldman10,
It varies and depends on the quality of the work.

If one sees enough films and shows, one would know.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2020 09:19 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:

Only two full episodes (out of the released 10) and a few of the segments, not all.


I didn't see any full eps on YouTube.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 04:05 am
@JGoldman10,
so why did you accuse the show of having many pop culture references, when the show is not doing that?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 06:30 am
@Rebelofnj,
Because he wants to sound like he knows what he’s talking about.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 06:54 am
@izzythepush,
It's weird that he would lie about something that can easily be verified.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2020 06:57 am
@Rebelofnj,
They do it all the time, throw out an wide ranging in criticism in the hope nobody will check it up.

Trump’s followers don’t bother with facts or the truth they just tr6 to drown out the other side.
 

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