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Let's fire Trump

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:02 pm
@izzythepush,
I think his relationship to Blair helped a lot. We finally got over our love affair with the IRA here in the US and started looking at Noraid a little more critically.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 04:14 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Bill Clinton was a good President. Paid down the National Debt

Newt Gingrich did that. Bill Clinton did his best to stop it from happening.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
had eight years of a great economy.

Thanks to Newt Gingrich paying down the debt.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:31 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Coldjoint is anxious for enemies so he makes up things.

How about another incidence of that? This was the first time to my recollection, and I thought you people did the way you pound salt up Obama's ass. But enough of that, produce another post of mine where I have made something up. I have called you a gossip, but that is the truth. So prove what you have said. I'll wait.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:51 pm
@coldjoint,
whenever someone talks to you or about you on a public line, that hardly constitutes gossip . Youre there to read it and she knows that. Its a direct pipeline to your brain.
Unless you know something else?? Ill wait but Im sure youll not come up with anything incriminating eh?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:53 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
whenever someone talks to you or about you on a public line, that hardly constitutes gossip

Here it amounts to piling on, and it is gossip when they claim I am something I am not or something they have no chance of proving. Period.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 05:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
He drones on like...well...I don't know what to compare him to


Fidel Castro to start with.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 09:28 pm
@coldjoint,
It's not considered "piling on." Many people, complete strangers, have arrived at the same conclusion about you and your posts. Self-examination might be helpful.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jun, 2020 09:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Many people, complete strangers, have arrived at the same conclusion about you and your posts.

I agree. It is called group think. All slaves to the narrative and intent on virtue signaling from their safe space.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 04:18 am
@coldjoint,
If someone encounters 10 people and 9 think he’s an asshole, chances are his main problem is staring back at him in the mirror.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 05:34 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:


BOBSAL, REVELETTE, GLITTERBAG...

...coldjoint has asserted that you three have indicated that you consider former President Obama to be "the best president ever."

Have any of you actually said that?

If you have, I intend to disagree with you. I think former President Obama was a fine president...and will probably be placed in the top 25% of presidents. But in no way do I think he is the "best president ever."

Please respond if you read this. I'll reach out to you individually if you don't.




No, I have never said Obama was the best president ever. Coldjoint is anxious for enemies so he makes up things. I've been mentioned quite a few times recently in a very negative fashion by a few members that I try to avoid. I've actually scrolled thru hundreds of pages to see if I ever say any of the things certain people attribute to me...its exhausting and ultimately pointless...because even when I confront them with their misrepresentation, they usually pull out the 'oh, you're over-reacting, or they try to minimize their deception, and then it's right back to more baseless accusations.

I doubt I will live long enough to see how history judges our last 5 presidents, I voted for Obama....I might have voted for McCain but when he picked a nitwit to be his running mate.....that was untenable.

Historians usually do exhausting research on our presidents and it really should be required reading to be considered a functioning adult...no one should be forced to educate themselves, but it would be great if many of these squawkers actually had a clue about what they crow about.





Thanks. Didn't think that you had. Two down out of the three he offered...and the CNN thing was an absurdity.

My guess is almost no one offers that former President Obama was the best president ever...although the right OFTEN touts Reagan as THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME, a claim I consider to be very exaggerated.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 05:38 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Ignoring Watergate and the attempted Crime Omnibus Act, Nixon was a good President. Bill Clinton was a good President. Paid down the National Debt and increased the size of the black middle class, handled some tricky world crises with the military and yet didn't get us into any Asian wars, had eight years of a great economy.

There are ony a handfull of great Presidents, though.


I damn near put Nixon on my list. His paranoia and insecurities screwed up what could easily have been a stellar presidency. He was effective...and he did understand what the presidency was all about. For much of his administration I hated him...but I did realize he was effective.

Thanks for mentioning him. I was too chicken.

oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:01 am
@Frank Apisa,
Not only was Mr. Nixon a great president, his lynching was entirely the fault of the leftists who lynched him. He did nothing wrong.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:02 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
If someone encounters 10 people and 9 think he’s an asshole, chances are his main problem is staring back at him in the mirror.

Appeals to the crowd are a logical fallacy.

I originally mistyped "appeals to the crows".
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:18 am
@oralloy,
He actually resigned because it was a series of degelations from his own party that convinced him that they would vote to convict in his upcoming impeachment trial.
He did personally engage in the cover up of the Watergate Break in and obstructed justice in its investigation by paying off witnesses.(He probably had nothing to do with the planning and the eecution of the Break-in, I believe) He also sicced the FBI and IRS onto people in his "enemies list"Thats all in The Public record. He wasnt "Lynched" (even in an symbolic reference) .He lived to resign and his resignation was well thought out because he would have been found guilty because there were quite a few GOP's in the Senate who would have voted to convict and he would have been removed from office and then would certainly have been tried in court. That could have resulted in a stay (no matter how brief) in Allenwood Pa. Prison.

However, Like Warren Harding He was , pretty good in a few specific areas. For me it was being the Founder President of the EPA. Thats something that was really needed then, and now.Its Trump who has continued in the weakening of the agency in orders that began way back in the Reagan regime.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 12:15 pm
@snood,
Quote:
If someone encounters 10 people and 9 think he’s an asshole, chances are his main problem is staring back at him in the mirror.

Does your knowledge in this matter come from personal experience?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 09:31 pm
@coldjoint,
Your's for sure. You seem knowledgeable of such things.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 09:34 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
If someone encounters 10 people and 9 think he’s an asshole, chances are his main problem is staring back at him in the mirror.

Does your knowledge in this matter come from personal experience?


You wouldn’t recognize a hopelessly lost asshole if he stared back at you in your mirror everyday. And he does.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:10 pm
@snood,
oh crap, more Sprite out of my nose.....you kill me, way too clever.....

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jun, 2020 11:20 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Appeals to the crowd are a logical fallacy.
The reason you lose so many debates is based simply on your inability to understand logic. It's not about "appeals to the crowd." It's only about those who participates on any discussion. As snood wrote, "9 out of 10" usually means there's a majority in support. If you disagree, you need to provide evidence why it isn't?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jun, 2020 06:43 am
The man Trump called 'my African American' is leaving the GOP
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/politics/trump-my-african-american-leaving-gop/index.html

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(CNN)The man then-candidate Donald Trump called "my African American" at a 2016 rally is leaving the Republican Party and no longer supports the President.

Gregory Cheadle, of California, told "PBS NewsHour" he believes the Republican Party is pursuing a "pro-white" agenda and using black people like him as "political pawns."

"I'm just sick and tired of the way blacks and other people of color have been treated by this administration and by the GOP," Cheadle told CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday on "Erin Burnett OutFront." He said he has been frustrated with Trump's rhetoric on race and the lack of diversity in his administration and judicial appointments.

Cheadle told Burnett he wouldn't use the term "racist" to describe the President, but said Trump has a "white superiority complex."
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