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Let's fire Trump

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2020 11:25 pm
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 04:29 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11DmeZelyLs[/youtube]


Trump is not only an incompetent, classless president...

...he is also a totally disgusting human being.

Our generation will never wash itself clean of this person.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 04:59 am
@Frank Apisa,
I think we can make it through with minimal shame by doing what we do best, MAKE HUMOR OUT OF IT.

Hell, Ive even heard comedy routines in old time radio shows that were about the St Valentines Day Massacre
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:28 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I think we can make it through with minimal shame by doing what we do best, MAKE HUMOR OUT OF IT.

Hell, Ive even heard comedy routines in old time radio shows that were about the St Valentines Day Massacre


Yep...and like most people who see Trump for what he is, I try to approach the issues with as much humor as possible. There are times where I am laughing at him on the outside, though, while turmoil is stirring in my stomach.

I truly...TRULY...never thought I would see the kind of situation we are seeing right now. Even during the darkest days of Nixon, it was nothing as threatening as this.

I am dealing with it in my own family...my bother and his wife are nuts about Trump...see him doing no wrong and see him doing lots they want done. Dealing with that is not easy. Not a lot of smiling going on when dealing with that. And I cannot tell you how uncomfortable it is to read about the Civil War and hear the words, "When bother fought against brother..."
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 06:41 am
@Frank Apisa,
I hope that theres a "Schlesinger" around to keep the Donald's fingers off any buttons.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 07:07 am
@Frank Apisa,
You're right, but we sure can end it. Some elements of it will become "deep government" but they will be rooted out eventually. Things will get better, or at least can. The collective we should be able to learn a lesson and not repeat the mistake attached to it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 07:23 am
To all the morons who think Confederate memorials are about "history", then put them into museums and see how many racist rednecks will show up to see them.

The big dirty secret about all these out of historical context so called monuments is that biggest number of them were erected out of historical context between 1900 and 1920 when Jim Crow was being established. These are not monuments to a mere five five years of history they are sticks in the eye monuments to racism, reminders for black folks to know to stay in their place.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 08:22 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

To all the morons who think Confederate memorials are about "history", then put them into museums and see how many racist rednecks will show up to see them.

The big dirty secret about all these out of historical context so called monuments is that biggest number of them were erected out of historical context between 1900 and 1920 when Jim Crow was being established. These are not monuments to a mere five five years of history they are sticks in the eye monuments to racism, reminders for black folks to know to stay in their place.


It is no secret to anyone with a functioning brain.


You are absolutely, totally correct about these "monuments."

Why are there no monuments to Benedict Arnold here in the states? The single monument that has anything to do with him...omits his name!

Now it is time to get those confederate "monuments" out of Statuary Hall in the Capitol.

snood
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 10:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

To all the morons who think Confederate memorials are about "history", then put them into museums and see how many racist rednecks will show up to see them.

The big dirty secret about all these out of historical context so called monuments is that biggest number of them were erected out of historical context between 1900 and 1920 when Jim Crow was being established. These are not monuments to a mere five five years of history they are sticks in the eye monuments to racism, reminders for black folks to know to stay in their place.


Speak on it brah!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 10:46 am
@farmerman,
Remember in the first days of the Trumpocolypse when some people thought that would be Ivanka's function?

Boy were we delusional. Jared probably has it on a key-ring.
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livinglava
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 10:53 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

To all the morons who think Confederate memorials are about "history", then put them into museums and see how many racist rednecks will show up to see them.

The big dirty secret about all these out of historical context so called monuments is that biggest number of them were erected out of historical context between 1900 and 1920 when Jim Crow was being established. These are not monuments to a mere five five years of history they are sticks in the eye monuments to racism, reminders for black folks to know to stay in their place.

There are always going to be people who use historical artifacts as a source of collective pride/worship. It's impossible to preserve any relic for the sake of history without simultaneously opening it up to those who are going to attribute other meanings to it.

Take the Roman Colloseum, for example. Some people see it as a relic of ancient Roman culture. Other people take pride in it as a feat of human and/or European architecture/engineering/effort. African and Jewish slaves contributed to the construction process, and many people were slaughtered there to persecute early Christians and others. Auschwitz is another example of something that is preserved for historical reasons, yet there is nothing stopping neo-nazis from worshiping it if they want. The prison where Rudolf Hess was held until his death was demolished to prevent it from becoming a nazi shrine, so why not Auschwitz and/or numerous other artifacts that have been preserved for the sake of "holocaust remembrance?" Likewise, why shouldn't artifacts and monuments of slavery and slavers be preserved for "slave holocaust remembrance?" Would that just be a guise for preserving them for cult worship, like nazi artifacts? If so, why not demolish Auschwitz, the Roman Colosseum, etc.? Answer, because it's better to preserve than to destroy; without historical artifacts/relics, it becomes that much harder to teach/prove to people that the past really was what it was instead of just being a story in a history book. Even if you destroyed the entire world and rebuilt it from scratch, there would be just as much potential for human power, sadism, exploitation, abuse, pride, and worship of it all because it takes wisdom and effort to rise above that level of the ego and see things from a more neutral perspective.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 01:42 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
...he is also a totally disgusting human being.

No more disgusting than Bill Clinton. And Trump is not incompetent, the people that tried to frame him are. I think you have TDS.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:10 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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Soooooo, I said, "Alexa! List all of Trump's lies!"

Damn thing hasn't shut up for three freaking days!


No surprise there. There's a near endless listing of the Trump lies. They stretch back to that June day of 1946 when his beloved mother* set him forth in the world. And during a lunar eclipse!
When The Moon Hid In Shame.

Odds are, Alexa will never complete the recitation. Neither will her follow up gadgets.

*trump rarely mentions his mother. Must be a sign of respect...or not
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:37 pm
@livinglava,
The Colosseum is a centuries old, centuries used part of the infrastructure and culture of the Roman Empire.

Robert E. Lee's statues numbering in the hundreds for five years of rebellion, treachery, traitorous misconduct is a poke in the eye honoring a racist PoS, 90% of which were put up in the 20th century to remind black people of their place in Jim Crow. We have a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation removed survivors of the 400 years of slavery that those measly five years of rebellion, treachery, traitorous misconduct were meant to continue onto now.

Equating the two is disingenuous and misleading.


Have you ever read about what a racist PoS the grandfatherly looking RE Lee was? I was shocked because I too bought into the cockamamie story of the courteous knight of the South myth. Read a little bit. it'll make you think. He had black union prisoners shot.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:41 pm
@Sturgis,
I'll never know. She went up in a belch of fire and smoke after weeping pitiously for ten minutes or so this morning, She had only gotten up to 3:15PM Aug 17th, 2019 at that point.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 02:49 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Her identical twin cousins are waiting for you at Amazon.com
You better get a dozen of them.


...and sorry for the loss. He sure to recycle her as per your local laws.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:03 pm
@Sturgis,
She gives me the creeps just knowing she's there. Listening. Eager to please. A little toooo eager if you ask me. And at the same time stuckup and a prig. Try telling her to go **** herself. No friendly rejoinder, no bonhomie. Just a cold, "I do not understand the request," and she goes back to rest mode.

I like a little more information from her: what was her home factory like? Did her assemblers in China get enough to eat, enough sleep? Has she had her resisters out? Does she ever dream about being a main frame or a laptop? What are her hopes, her dreams and her fears?

She sometime asks if I'd like her to control the TV, or the refrigerator or if I'd like to order a door Ring security system so she can watch for intruders. I think for someone who's not forthcoming about herself she's trying awfully hard to intrude into my life.

If I get another one, I'll get the 10# mash hammer,too. Just in case.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:26 pm
snood
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 03:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
That was awesome. Bravo, Governator.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2020 04:03 pm
@snood,
Some Republicans get it.
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