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Let's fire Trump

 
 
livinglava
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:25 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

There's hope for you, yet. We don't have to agree but making sense helps.

You don't understand complex things I post. That's the reason you don't think they make sense.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:28 pm
@livinglava,
Quote:
That's the reason you don't think they make sense.

When someone is thoroughly brainwashed they will reject anything even if it proven without a doubt. As proven with pictures or documents.
livinglava
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:33 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
That's the reason you don't think they make sense.

When someone is thoroughly brainwashed they will reject anything even if it proven without a doubt. As proven with pictures or documents.

I don't post proven facts as much as I post things worth thinking about in the process of questioning assumptions and thus figuring out things for yourself.

I think he his brainwashed, but I can't tell if that's the reason he calls my posts 'word salad,' or if it's because he just doesn't understand the complexity of my writing style (which I don't really think is that complex, but some people say so).

When he said that I made sense with that last post, I think he was being sincere and he just really can't tell that my other posts also make sense (and it's not because he understands them and just wants to misrecognize them for political reasons).
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:53 am
https://image.politicalcartoons.com/240178/600/fence-around-the-white-house.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:56 am
https://image.politicalcartoons.com/240159/600/babies-in-cages.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:59 am
https://image.politicalcartoons.com/240181/600/trump-advice.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 09:02 am
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cache/lw600/183/18391/1839168.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 11:03 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Your cartoon is a lie. Making up and perpetuating lies is an obvious tactic of the Left. It is easily proven that it never happened.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 11:07 am
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv061020dAPR20200610074508.jpg
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 11:28 am
https://lidblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/3ybq0r-1080x675.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 01:32 pm
‘Gross Abuse Of Power’: Outside Attorney Calls For Court To Ignore DOJ Attempt To Drop Michael Flynn Case


Alexandra SternlichtForbes Staff
Business

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/06/10/gross-abuse-of-power-federal-court-review-of-flynn-case-criticizes-justice-department/#41c571ce40c9

Updated Jun 10, 2020, 01:52pm EDT

TOPLINE

A third-party attorney appointed by a federal court in Washington, D.C., to argue against the Justice Department’s request to dismiss its case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn accused the agency Wednesday of a “gross abuse of prosecutorial power” by “attempting to provide special treatment to a favored friend and political ally of the President of the United States,” and recommended that Flynn be sentenced for the charge of lying to the FBI that he has withdrawn his guilty plea for.

KEY FACTS

“It has treated the case like no other, and in doing so has undermined the public’s confidence in the rule of law,” said retired federal judge John Gleeson in a brief he filed Wednesday.

Gleeson also argued that Flynn had committed perjury by pleading guilty and then attempting to withdraw his plea, however, Gleeson recommended that the court should not separately prosecute Flynn for that and should take the perjury into account when sentencing him.

Gleeson was appointed by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to fight the government’s motion to dismiss the case and determine whether Flynn should be held in contempt of the court for either perjury or withdrawing his guilty plea.

Meanwhile, Flynn’s legal team has challenged Sullivan’s ability to appoint Gleeson, which will be argued on Friday at Washington’s U.S. appeals court, according to the Wall Street Journal.

“Everything about this is irregular,” said Gleeson in the brief.
Crucial Quote

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," wrote Gleeson in the brief.

Key Background

In early May, the Justice Department filed a motion to drop its case against Flynn, saying the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation of Flynn was “untethered” and “unjustified.” This happened after a review from an outside prosecutor—who was assigned by Attorney General William Barr—recommended that the Justice Department drop the case.

Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak regarding election interference. In the early months of 2020, Flynn’s attorney’s alleged the FBI had mishandled the case, requesting to revoke Flynn’s guilty plea; the motion was denied by the judge.


coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 02:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
‘Gross Abuse Of Power’:

Projection. The prosecutors of Flynn abused their powers. It has been proven. They are beating a dead horse. There is not a Obama holdover that will change things. They do not have that power anymore.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 03:53 pm
Quote:
So moron, lets see some example of your legal expertise.

The Executive Branch does the prosecuting not the courts. They do not have a legal leg to stand on. The Judicial Branch cannot prosecute and therefore have no right to argue the DOJ's decision.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 04:12 pm
Reading comprehension is your friend ....

A third-party attorney appointed by a federal court in Washington, D.C.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 04:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
appointed by a federal court in Washington, D.C.

So what? The court can not determine who to prosecute. That power rests with the Executive branch. I just explained it.
Quote:
Once the prosecution withdraws the charges and the defendant agrees, there is no case. The judge cannot force the Department of Justice to prosecute any charge the Department of Justice does not believe to be fair. This is not how our system works. In refusing to do this, Judge Sullivan is trampling upon the separation of powers. It is usurping for himself a role that our Constitution reserves for the Executive. It's not just me saying it. Just a week ago, in a writ of sociology, the Supreme Court stated as much in a unanimous decision, 9 to 0 written by Justice Ginsburg. So this is not a complex, arcane bit of the law. This is one of the simplest basics that govern how we handle ourselves in our judicial system.

I understand brainwashed people do not accept facts. "Someone" just proved it.
https://quodverum.com/2020/6/emmet-sullivans-abuse-of-discretion.html
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:02 pm

https://i.imgur.com/IcWuJwx.png
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:15 pm
@Region Philbis,

Those hacks have any ideas on how to solve this? You think during a crisis people would do something to help, not these hacks, or the party they are shilling for.
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Beneath_the_Surface_2_Small20200602090521.jpg
Above is the real problem that Democrats created.
livinglava
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 05:53 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:


Those hacks have any ideas on how to solve this? You think during a crisis people would do something to help, not these hacks, or the party they are shilling for.
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/Beneath_the_Surface_2_Small20200602090521.jpg
Above is the real problem that Democrats created.

Democrat growth-stimulus policies stimulate more borrowing/spending, which puts people more in debt with more bills, and that is why they end up getting hit harder when recessions happen, yet Democrats don't want to admit that so they just blame Republicans for trying to hold back inflation at the moment people are most desperate to sacrifice the future for the present.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2020 03:19 pm
https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?url=https%3A%2F%2Fodaction.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F06%2Flogic.jpg&t=1591907935&ymreqid=c8299b13-9e9b-4aa5-1c27-5c0001017e00&sig=IM9vQHxOWwPV.0eaJJVMxA--~C
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2020 04:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
That is a leftist misrepresentation of the President's logic.
 

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