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Let's fire Trump

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jun, 2020 05:05 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
A video from sore losers cashing in on stupid people in this monetized video.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jun, 2020 05:07 pm
Quote:
Mattis tears into Trump:
'We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership'


Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis castigated President Donald Trump as "the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people" in a forceful rebuke of his former boss as nationwide protests have intensified over the death of George Floyd.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us," Mattis said.

"We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children."
(cnn)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jun, 2020 05:14 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us," Mattis said.

A shame such a brilliant general lowers himself to this. The division was here with Obama and Trump was clearly never given a chance. The general does not care if America lives or dies. He is on the wrong side of history.
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livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 06:30 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

So there's an easy freaking solution: STOP GIVING THEM PRETEXT.

No go outside and get that baby!!

You need to explain what you mean with these soundbites. They are not clear as standalone statements.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 06:37 am
@Region Philbis,
Its going to take some resolution and actual patriotism by the "Quiet GOP". Do they have the cojones to say "ENOUGH"?

It usually takes a kick start by writers and journalists who are "of the party" before the ruling elites read and start recognizing what a monster has been created by such enabling.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 07:47 am
https://i.imgur.com/ifYur0B.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 07:50 am
@livinglava,
Here's the ABC's version: stop killing black citizens - and you've stopped the reason for "riots".

Any simpler and I'd have to drill a hole thru your skull and pour it in.

Now get yourself outside and rescue the baby.
livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 08:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Here's the ABC's version: stop killing black citizens - and you've stopped the reason for "riots".

First, that's not true because as long as capitalism persists in producing inequality, there will be Marxist/socialist agitators trying to stir up rioting and/or anything else that causes destruction of property, i.e. because they want to create more jobs and investment in rebuilding whatever gets destroyed.

Second, the legitimate peaceful protests had antifa and other Marxist/socialist/leftists coming in to turn them into violent/destructive riots. They do this to stimulate destruction and thus provoke government investment.

Quote:
Any simpler and I'd have to drill a hole thru your skull and pour it in.

How dare you use such offensive violent metaphors? Every drop of violence you threaten comes back to you. Every drop.

Quote:
Now get yourself outside and rescue the baby.

I'm trying to rescue the baby from Marxism/socialism. You, on the other hand, are trying to abort it in order to stimulate more economic investment that wouldn't be necessary if you would just let society settle and heal into a traditional, conservative state of religious morality and resistance against crime.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 08:49 am
@livinglava,
I think even right wingers agree the violence's proximate cause is unwarranted killing by cops of black suspects.

There's been nothing like this that hasn't had an element of cop violence since the seventies.

I don't want that baby tempted by the false promises of Marx and Engels either. Or the temptation to allow fascists to take over this country under some sort of cover of a misnamed sense of "law and order", our laws work when they are equally applied.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 09:36 am
https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/abde/3kpjqecgawqw1razg.jpg?size_id=8
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 09:53 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Philando Castile ignored repeated orders to keep his hands visible and reached for something.

Trayvon Marin was killed in self defense as he tried to murder the captain of the neighborhood watch.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:00 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
I think even right wingers agree the violence's proximate cause is unwarranted killing by cops of black suspects.

I'm not really following the George Floyd case closely. But from what I know of it his death was indeed unwarranted. If I were on the jury I think I'd convict the neck guy of second degree murder. Although I'm not so sure that I'd convict any of the others.

But no. Many if not most of these deaths are justified self defense. Most of them are not in any way unwarranted.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:01 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Here's the ABC's version: stop killing black citizens - and you've stopped the reason for "riots".

Police officers are not going to stop defending themselves when people try to kill them.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:02 am
@oralloy,
What was it that Philando was reaching for???? The cops sure didn't ever say.

George Zimmerman was captain of a block watch committee of one, who ignored police orders to back off and wait for the cops to get there and in cold blood murdered a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD YOUNG MAN.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:07 am
@oralloy,
so you think Floyd represented a threat to the killing officer that he deserved to die by a horribly cruel mens of slow asphyxiation?

Hint: NEVER RUN FOR ANY POLITICAL OFFICE, I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE HEAD FOR IT, STICK TO 'ROLL PLAYING 'PUTER GAMING IN YOUR MOMMIES BASEMENT.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:09 am
@farmerman,
@farmerman,
You engage in name-calling because you are not able to come up with an intelligent argument.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:09 am
@farmerman,
OH yeh. See how quickly the Pugs turn on their conservative journalists who publish more fact related articles and opinions. Look a George Will, hes now being vilified as a "Rino" and a "disgrace to the Reich"
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:10 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
What was it that Philando was reaching for???? The cops sure didn't ever say.

Who knows. Why does it matter?


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
George Zimmerman was captain of a block watch committee of one,

That is incorrect. There were other members of the neighborhood watch.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
who ignored police orders to back off and wait for the cops to get there

That is incorrect. First, it was hardly an order. The dispatcher just let him know that what he was doing was a Very Bad Idea.

And second, Mr. Zimmerman took that advice and stopped tailing after Trayvon.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
and in cold blood murdered

That is incorrect. Self defense is not murder.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD YOUNG MAN.

That is incorrect. Trayvon was 17 years old.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:11 am
@oralloy,
This AM the news on the CBC broke a story that the "Anti-fa" communication to burn , loot, and destroy property was actually an act of a rightwing Michigan Militia. You belong to that club??
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2020 10:29 am
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