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Let's fire Trump

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:30 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Theres a whole **** pot of psychiatrists

A shitload of quacks, no doctor diagnoses anyone without seeing them in a clinical setting, period.
Quote:
viscous gossips.

Well look at that I made a mistake and I admit it. Give it a try. It does not hurt.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:32 am
@snood,
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He loves the country in the same way he loved all the businesses he tanked and the wives he cheated on.

His actions speak differently. Secure borders, law enforcement, and the early travel ban on China say something very different.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:34 am
@coldjoint,
There was no travel ban on China.

There was a travel ban on the Chinese, but not China.

Try again.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:35 am
@coldjoint,
Actually I thought you were joking. At least you admitted that you made a mistake.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:43 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
A shitload of quacks, no doctor diagnoses anyone without seeing them in a clinical setting, period.
Many times, in adverse conditions of inspection, doctors are often asked to render " EXPERT OPINIONS" without any personal contact. You just are making an assertion that you wish were true.

One of the pychiatrists was an emeritus chair of Harvard, and the other two were from equally elite psychiatric U;s and research centers.

Think of it more as a forensic opinion based on remotely viewed evidence.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:46 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
One of the pychiatrists was an emeritus chair of Harvard,

So what? He or she should be ashamed of their self. It is not the way it is done and they are using their quack diagnosis to make money and a political weapon.

Warren is from Harvard and she has been exposed as nothing but an opportunist liar.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:50 am
@livinglava,
What specifically are you questioning? The fact that Donald Trump doesn't understand the Constitution? Federal Courts tell him that everyday. That his coronavirus plans aren't coming to fruition? Try getting a covid19 test. That he thinks he's a King and can dismiss Congress to further his agenda by bypassing the will of the people?

It's April and what has burned off? Not the virus but his supporters seem to be evaporating.

He's cut off supplies to Democratic Governors and even some of the GOP governors say they aren't getting enough. He's been commandeering supplies ordered by states and hospitals, refuse to allow the Mexican and Canadian governments from purchasing supplies here in the US and at the same time is giveing them to Putin.

Did I miss anything?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:51 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
There was a travel ban on the Chinese, but not China.

There sure was, and it saved countless lives while Democrats did nothing but call Trump names. At the same time they downplayed the virus in Chinatown and New Orleans and on every anti-Trump cable network.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:52 am
@Sturgis,
I've been dancing around sacrificed virgins myself (you know how we radical progressives are) supplicating the dark forces for the head exploding scenario, myself.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:53 am
@coldjoint,
I guess, ere I you, Id robably try to say the same thing. ALWAYS placing blame on others is a credible piece of psychosis evidence.
The fact that you are blind to this guys daily wackiness is what Id expect.
You are fond of blaming others for what your guy i doing, You close your yes to what Trump IS doing(Most of it on TV). That leaves you with only someone else to blame.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:54 am
@izzythepush,
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Thanks for quoting Ll’s nonsense, it saves the bother of wading through the masses of tripe he posts.


Hear, hear!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:57 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
There was a travel ban on the Chinese, but not China.

Try again.


Details, details, details.

Stop pissing on his parade. Its all he's got.

His ban on travel has more holes in it than than the fairy tale about his billions.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 11:59 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
At least you admitted that you made a mistake.


As soon as I get out of ICU from the heart attack I'm going to thumb him up.

I wonder who twisted his wrist?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Stop pissing on his parade. Its all he's got.

Me and half the country. Enough to install Trump in the Oval office for another 4 years. Which leaves you another four years to try and tear the country apart with your hate and lies.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:07 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
There was a travel ban on the Chinese, but not China.

There sure was, and it saved countless lives while Democrats did nothing but call Trump names. At the same time they downplayed the virus in Chinatown and New Orleans and on every anti-Trump cable network.


I really wish you were more...educated about current affairs.

The Facts on Trump’s Travel Restrictions
By Robert Farley

Posted on March 6, 2020

President Donald Trump has made a number of misleading statements about his decision on Jan. 31 to impose travel restrictions related to the novel coronavirus epidemic.

Trump has referred to the travel restrictions as a “travel ban.” There isn’t an outright ban, as there are exceptions, including for Americans and their family members.

Trump said he was “bold” in imposing travel restrictions even though “everybody said, it’s too early, it’s too soon” and “a lot of people that work on this stuff almost exclusively” told him “don’t do it.” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the decision stemmed from “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”

Trump said Democrats “loudly criticized and protested” his announced travel restrictions, and that they “called me a racist because I made that decision.” Trump is overstating Democratic opposition. None of the party’s congressional leaders and none of the Democratic candidates running for president have directly criticized that decision, though at least two Democrats have.

Trump said the travel restrictions “saved a lot of lives” and reduced U.S. COVID-19 cases to “a very small number.” But experts say there isn’t enough data to make that determination. A study in the journal Science found the various travel limitations across the globe initially helped to slow the spread, but the number of cases worldwide rose anyway because the virus had already begun traveling undetected internationally.

Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2. On Feb. 29, Trump expanded those travel restrictions to Iran. Trump has repeatedly boasted that his decision to impose the travel restrictions was bold and worked. But his rhetoric has sometimes stretched the facts.

A Travel ‘Ban’?
For starters, health experts say Trump was wrong to refer to the travel restrictions as a “travel ban,” as he did in a telephone interview on March 4 with Fox News’ Sean Hannity. During a town hall on March 5, Trump said he “closed down the borders to China and to other areas that are very badly affected.” That’s not accurate.

As Azar explained when he announced the travel restrictions on Jan. 31, the policy prohibits non-U.S. citizens, other than the immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents, who have traveled to China within the last two weeks from entering the U.S.

At a House subcommittee hearing on the coronavirus on Feb. 5, Ron Klain, White House Ebola response coordinator under the Obama administration, took issue with the characterization of the travel restrictions as a travel “ban.”

“We don’t have a travel ban,” Klain said. “We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn.”

There’s no restriction on Americans going back and forth,” Klain said. “There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction.”

Indeed, on Jan. 24, a week before the travel restrictions, the CDC confirmed two cases of the novel coronavirus in the U.S. from people who had returned from Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began.

Furthermore, Klain said, the import of goods from China is exempt from the travel restrictions, “and, of course, the people who fly the planes and drive the boats that bring those goods from China. We couldn’t ban that activity. We vitally need that. Ninety percent of the antibiotics in this country come from China. All kinds of vital medical supplies … we will use to treat people. So, travel bans … that’s not what we’re imposing, that’s not what exists.”

As part of the travel restrictions, Azar announced that any U.S. citizen returning to the U.S. who had been in Hubei Province in China in the previous 14 days would be subject to mandatory quarantine and health screening. U.S. citizens returning from mainland China outside Hubei Province were ordered to undergo health screenings and “up to 14 days of monitored self-quarantine to ensure they’ve not contracted the virus and do not pose a public health risk,” Azar said.

At the time the restrictions were announced, there were only six confirmed cases of the novel virus in the U.S. The outbreak, which began in Wuhan, China, at the end of 2019, has now spread to more than 70 countries, including the U.S. According to a Johns Hopkins University case tracker and a New York Times database, as of March 6, more than 250 people in the U.S. have been infected with the new disease, known as COVID-19, and at least 14 have died.

Did Trump Buck the Experts?
Trump has repeatedly said that his decision to impose the travel restrictions on Jan. 31 was made despite objections from most of the experts on containing the spread of infectious disease.

“But we closed those borders very early, against the advice of a lot of professionals, and we turned out to be right. I took a lot of heat for that,” Trump said on March 4.

Asked by Hannity the same day about his rationale at the time he made the decision, Trump said, “I would say everybody said, it’s too early, it’s too soon, and good people, brilliant people, in many ways, doctors and lawyers and, frankly, a lot of people that work on this stuff almost exclusively. And they said, don’t do it.”

Trump repeated this claim at his town hall in Scranton on March 5, saying that as soon as he heard that China had a problem with the coronavirus, he asked how many people the U.S. had coming in from China. “Nobody but me asked that question,” Trump said. Trump added that his decision to impose the travel restrictions was made “against the advice of almost everybody.”

Everybody? Not according to Azar, who said it was the “uniform” recommendation of experts in his department.

“The travel restrictions that we put in place in consultation with the president were very measured and incremental,” Azar told reporters on Feb. 7. “These were the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”

The World Health Organization cautioned against the overuse of travel restrictions, but stopped short of saying that Trump’s decision in the U.S. — or anyone else’s in other countries — was inappropriate.

“[W]e reiterate our call to all countries not to impose restrictions inconsistent with the International Health Regulations,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told its executive board. “Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit. So far, 22 countries have reported such restrictions to WHO. Where such measures have been implemented, we urge that they are short in duration, proportionate to the public health risks, and are reconsidered regularly as the situation evolves.”

As we said, three experts called by Democrats at a House subcommittee hearing on Feb. 5 questioned the decision. Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, was one of them.

Nuzzo, Feb. 5: [W]e need to seriously reexamine the current policy of banning travel from China and quarantining returning travelers. All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders. These measures may exacerbate the epidemic’s social and economic tolls and can make us less safe. Simply put, this virus is spreading too quickly and too silently, and our surveillance is too limited for us to truly know which countries have active transmission and which don’t. The virus could enter the U.S. from other parts of the world not on our restricted list, and it may already be circulating here.

The U.S. was a target of travel bans and quarantines during the 2009 flu pandemic. It didn’t work to stop the spread, and it hurt our country. I am concerned that by our singling out China for travel bans, we are effectively penalizing it for reporting cases. This may diminish its willingness to further share data and chill other countries’ willingness to be transparent about their own outbreaks. Travel bans and quarantines will make us less safe if they divert attention and resources from higher priority disease mitigation approaches that we know are needed to respond to cases within the United States.

… We often see, when we have emerging disease outbreaks, our first instinct is to try to lock down travel to prevent the introduction of virus to our country. And that is a completely understandable instinct. I have never seen instances in which that has worked when we are talking about a virus at this scale.

Respiratory viruses like this one, unlike others–they just move quickly. They are hard to spot because they look like many other diseases. It’s very difficult to interrupt them at borders. You would need to have complete surveillance in order to do that. And we simply don’t have that.

During the hearing, Dr. Jennifer Bouey, chair of China policy studies at the Rand Corporation, agreed saying that the policy to restrict travel “doesn’t help that much in this–the current situation.”

But according to Paul Offit, chair of vaccinology at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, those kinds of opinions were in the minority at the time the president made his decision.

“I don’t know anyone who thought the travel restrictions were a bad idea early on,” Offit told us in a phone interview.

When a virus like that is restricted to one location, as it appeared to be early on, travel restrictions can lessen the odds of it spreading to this country, Offit said. Over time, however, and as cases began to be identified in the U.S., travel restrictions make much less of a difference, he said.

Epidemiologists and former U.S. health officials told Time that the initial travel restrictions were valid and “likely helped to slow the spread of the virus. The problem, they say, is that once it was clear that the virus was within our borders officials did not pivot quickly enough to changing circumstances.”

Democratic Criticism
Trump has repeatedly claimed that Democrats have “loudly criticized and protested” his imposition of the travel restrictions, and have called the decision “racist.” But while leading Democrats have been outspoken in their criticism of the president’s overall response to the epidemic, very few have criticized his decision to impose limited travel restrictions.

“I took a lot of heat,” Trump said during a Feb. 27 press conference. “I mean, some people called me racist because I made a decision so early. And we had never done that as a country before, let alone early. So it was a, you know, bold decision. It turned out to be a good decision. But I was criticized by the Democrats. They called me a racist because I made that decision, if you can believe that one.”

At a rally in South Carolina the following day, Trump said Democrats “loudly criticized and protested” his decision.

“But, anyway — but we’ve done an incredible job because we closed early,” Trump said in a meeting with African American leaders on Feb. 28. “And actually, the Democrats said I was a racist. Not from black-people standpoint, but from Asian-people standpoint, from Chinese-people standpoint. They said I was a racist because I closed our country to people coming in from certain areas. They called me a racist.”

We reached out to the Trump campaign and asked for names, but we did not get a response. We scoured news clips and could find only a couple instances of elected Democrats criticizing the president’s action to restrict travel.

In the House subcommittee hearing on Feb. 5 that we referenced earlier, several witnesses called by the Democrats expressed concerns about the travel restrictions and warned they could do more harm than good.

And at least one Democrat agreed.

“The United States and other countries around the world have put in place unprecedented travel restrictions in response to the virus,” said Democratic Rep. Eliot L. Engel. “These measures have not proven to improve public health outcomes, rather they tend to cause economic harm and to stoke racist and discriminatory responses to this epidemic.”

A day earlier, Democratic Rep. Ami Bera, who presided over the hearing, told Politico, “In our response we can’t create prejudices and harbor anxieties toward one population.” Bera told Politico the decision to impose travel restrictions “probably doesn’t make sense” given that the outbreak had already spread to several other countries by that point. “At this juncture, it’s going to be very hard to contain the virus,” Bera said.

But the Democratic leaders in Congress have simply not mentioned Trump’s travel restrictions.

In a Feb. 25 tweet, Trump claimed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer “didn’t like my early travel closings.” Trump’s comment appears to be based on a fabricated tweet that circulated widely on Facebook.

Schumer has been critical of the Trump administration’s response to the spread of the novel coronavirus. But he hasn’t mentioned the travel restrictions in that criticism.

In Trump’s Fox News interview on March 4, host Sean Hannity said former vice president and current Democratic challenger Joe Biden “accused the president of being xenophobic, while he was trying to protect the health of the American people.”

On the day Trump imposed the travel restrictions, Biden did criticize Trump for his “record of hysteria and xenophobia,” but it is unclear whether Biden was referring to Trump’s travel restrictions, or Trump’s overall qualifications to deal with the epidemic.

“We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China,” Biden said on Jan. 31 at a campaign event in Iowa. “A national emergency worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

In an op-ed published several days prior in USA Today, Biden similarly argued: “The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president.” Biden wrote that he recalled “how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic.” Trump, Biden wrote, “railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse.”

Although Democratic leaders and Democratic presidential candidates have been highly critical of Trump’s response to the coronavirus, we couldn’t find any examples of them directly and clearly criticizing the travel restrictions.

In a Feb. 4 letter to Trump, Democratic Reps. Nita Lowey, chair of the Appropriations Committee, and Rose DeLauro, chair of one of the subcommittees, wrote that they “strongly support” the president’s decision to declare a public health emergency in response to the novel coronavirus outbreak, and they specifically cited the administration’s actions to impose “significant travel restrictions.”

Have Travel Restrictions ‘Saved a Lot of Lives’?
Trump said his “bold” decision has since been vindicated, that it has “saved a lot of lives” and that because of his decision “that’s why we have a very small number of people that we have to really worry about.”

At a press conference on Feb. 29 attended by Trump, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, praised “the original decision that was made by the president” to impose travel restrictions to and from China.

“We prevented travel from China to the United States,” said Fauci, who has worked for multiple administrations. “If we had not done that, we would have had many, many more cases right here that we would have to be dealing with.”

But not everyone agrees.

Nuzzo, the senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said there’s no evidence, at least, that the travel restrictions have saved lives or reduced the number of cases in the U.S.

“We have not seen any evidence that shows the travel restrictions stopped or slowed down transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19,” Nuzzo told us via email. “It is possible that it did, but there is no evidence to show this. Rather there are a number of reasons to believe that this may very well not be the case.”

Chiefly, she said, that’s because “we weren’t seriously looking for cases in the US.”

“If you had mild infection, you were not tested,” Nuzzo said. “If you had viral pneumonia not requiring oxygen but had not been to Wuhan, you wouldn’t have been tested.”

“Prior to the US travel restrictions, China began suspending outbound flights,” Nuzzo said. “Airlines also began canceling flights due to low travel volume. Then, the US implemented travel restrictions, which further reduced travel from China. The exception was Americans who were returning home from China. These folks were subject to quarantine upon return. A number of cases were found among these individuals. If you only test travelers from China and you greatly reduce the number of travelers coming from China, then you would be likely to not find many cases.

“But it doesn’t mean the virus hadn’t entered the US prior to travel restrictions,” Nuzzo said, as data now suggests occurred in Washington state.

Also, she said other countries, including Japan, Singapore and Korea, had a significant number of coronavirus cases, but they weren’t subject to travel restrictions. The U.S. “would likely not have picked it up” if travelers coming to the U.S. from those countries “because we weren’t using these other countries as criteria for testing.”

A modeling study published in Science magazine on March 6, “The effect of travel restrictions on the spread of the 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak,” concluded that, “In areas affected by the 2019 novel coronavirus (COVID-19), travel restrictions will only modestly impact the spread of the outbreak,” according to a press release for the study.

“Based on the study’s results, the authors say the greatest benefit to mitigating the epidemic will come from public health interventions and behavioral changes that achieve a considerable reduction in the disease transmissibility – factors like early detection, isolation, and handwashing,” according to the press release.

The authors concluded that travel restrictions introduced by the Chinese government in Wuhan in Jan. 23 and the halting of airline flights to and from China starting in early February at first slowed the spread of the disease to the rest of the world. Even still, a large number of individuals exposed to the virus had been traveling internationally without being detected and, the authors note, the number of imported cases around the world went up in a matter of weeks.

“Moving forward we expect that travel restrictions to COVID-19 affected areas will have modest effects, and that transmission-reduction interventions will provide the greatest benefit to mitigate the epidemic,” the authors wrote.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:27 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Enough to install Trump in the Oval office for another 4 years.


That remains to be seen.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:27 pm
@coldjoint,
And then there's this wonderful gem....

Trump Mistakenly Announces Ban on All Travel and Imports From Europe, Then Backtracks

Robert Mackey
March 12 2020, 3:40 a.m.

LASHING OUT AT Europe for the spread of the “foreign” coronavirus to the United States, President Donald Trump told the American people on Wednesday he would halt all travel and imports from the continent. Within minutes, White House officials scrambled to correct him, explaining that the 30-day ban would only apply to some foreigners traveling from some European countries and not at all to goods.

The confusion had started during the address, when Trump said that the ban on “all travel from Europe” was necessary “to keep new cases from entering our shores,” but would not include the United Kingdom, where coronavirus has spread widely enough to have infected at least 459 people, including the country’s health minister.


The White House

@WhiteHouse
We will be suspending all travel from Europe, except the United Kingdom, for the next 30 days. The policy goes into effect Friday at midnight.
9:40 PM - Mar 11, 2020

The backtracking began almost as soon as the president had finished speaking. As aides told reporters there was no ban on goods or cargo, the acting Homeland Security secretary tweeted that the travel ban was not Europe-wide. It would only apply to foreign citizens coming from one of the 26 European nations that make up the Schengen Area, a region in which travelers can cross borders without passports. While most European Union nations are in Schengen, five are not: Ireland, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania and Cyprus. The ban will also not apply to European countries that are not in the E.U., including Russia and Ukraine.

Since the U.K. never joined the Schengen area, but still permits visa-free travel from all of those nations, enforcing the new ban will not be easy.

Hours after Trump announced the ban, and the exception, Prime Minister Boris Johnson warned the British public that the number of cases of the illness caused by the coronavirus — COVID-19 — would probably “rise sharply — indeed, the true number of cases is higher, perhaps much higher, than the number of cases we have so far confirmed with tests.”


BBC News (UK)

@BBCNews
"This is the worst public health crisis for a generation"

UK PM Boris Johnson says it is "not right" to compare coronavirus to flu, adding "many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time" as the virus spreadshttp://bbc.in/39LAW8t #CoronavirusPandemic
1:01 PM - Mar 12, 2020

“Some people compare it to the seasonal flu,” Johnson added, with a clarity lacking from Trump’s own statements, “alas that is not right. Owing to the lack of immunity, this disease is more dangerous.”

While excluding the U.K. from the ban appears to make no epidemiological sense — and the whole policy of travel restriction seems misguided, now that the virus is already spreading inside the United States — Trump might see the measure as a way to punish the European Union, the multinational bloc he encouraged the U.K. to withdraw from this year.

Trump detests the E.U. as an economic competitor and seems personally affronted by the way its leaders foster a pan-European identity as a counterweight to the ethnic nationalism he prefers.

“The European Union is a group of countries that got together to screw the United States — it’s as simple as that,” Trump said at a private dinner recorded by Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine fixer in 2018. “They’re worse than China in the sense of barriers; we lose 151 billion with them,” he added. “The European Union is really bad,” the president told the all-white group of donors. “You know it doesn’t sound like it, you know, the European Union, we’re all sort of from there, right?”

In his speech, Trump boasted that his decision to restrict travel from China had slowed the spread of the coronavirus to the U.S. and claimed that European nations had higher levels of infection now because “The European Union failed to take the same precautions.” In fact, the virus might have reached Europe first simply because it is on the same landmass as China, and the extent of infection in the U.S. remains unknown, since a far smaller number of people have been tested for the disease.

Without citing evidence, Trump also claimed that a ban was justified because “a large number of new clusters in the United States were seeded by travelers from Europe.”

A proclamation posted on the White House website Wednesday night also listed a wide range of exceptions for Europeans who might be exempt from the ban, and made clear that it does not apply to American citizens or permanent residents.

Trump’s address focused so much on the new travel restrictions that he mentioned only in passing the measures that have helped to slow the spread of the virus in places like South Korea and Hong Kong — widespread testing and avoiding crowded spaces — which Americans might need to adopt sooner than later.

Trump also claimed that health insurance executives he met with “have agreed to waive all copayments for coronavirus treatments.”

“For testing. Not for treatment,” a spokesperson for the powerful health insurance lobby, America’s Health Insurance Plans, told Sarah Owermohle of Politico.

When he mistakenly announced the import ban, it seems possible that Trump simply misread the teleprompter, as is his wont — perhaps by inserting the word “only” into the meandering phrase: “these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval.”

“Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing,” the president added, in a statement that sounded both definitive and like the sort of conversational aside he often slips into speeches after stumbling over prepared remarks.

Near the start of the address, Trump also clearly misread another portion of the written text, and used his signature move of pretending that he meant to say the incorrect word in addition the correct one. “I am confident,” Trump said, “that by counting — and continuing — to take these tough measures, we will significantly reduce the threat to our citizens.”


typoprone
@typoprone
"By counting... *eek*... and continuing..." @realDonaldTrump #WorstPresidentInHistory #TrumpDementia
10:53 PM - Mar 11, 2020

As Chris Hayes pointed out in 2018, Trump does this all the time to avoid admitting he misspoke — but usually the confusion he generates in doing so is not enough to generate global panic.


MSNBC

@MSNBC
mistake + AND + correction = President Trump's "signature move"

Watch @chrislhayes break it down on @allinwithchris
10:10 AM - Feb 3, 2018

An hour after Trump concluded his address from the Oval Office, he tried to clean up his mistake without admitting it, by tweeting: “please remember, very important for all countries & businesses to know that trade will in no way be affected by the 30-day restriction on travel from Europe. The restriction stops people not goods.”

Updated: Thursday, March 12, 4:58 pm EDT

This article was revised to add comments from British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and note that before President Donald Trump mistakenly declared a ban on imports from Europe on Wednesday night, he made another obvious error in reading his prepared statement but tried to cover it up by pretending that he meant to say both the wrong word and the right one.

bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:29 pm
@neptuneblue,
Now all we need to do is get someone to read that to him ... veeeery slowly.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:31 pm
@neptuneblue,
TLDR. I am not going to use the same sources as you to obtain my education on current affairs that you do.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2020 12:31 pm
@neptuneblue,
I received a psychic vision of tj's response .... wait .... its becoming clearer .... and clearer ..... here it is!

"No it doesn't!"
 

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