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Let's fire Trump

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 07:42 pm

https://i.imgur.com/W8usRb8.jpg
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 08:05 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg110520dAPR20201105124511.jpg
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 08:13 pm
Nothing subtle about the Trumpanzees.

They went from crowing about how there was going to be a Red Tide that was greater than the 2016 win, to two days later pushing a half dozen conspiracy theories and crying fraud.

I’ll count us as lucky if they don’t actually try to do an armed coup.

They seem desperate and crazy enough to try anything.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 08:20 pm
@snood,
Why do progressives always falsely accuse conservatives of acting like progressives?
snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 08:25 pm
@oralloy,
Oh, so it wasn’t conservatives who were saying a red wave was coming and who are now saying they were cheated in several ways?
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 08:35 pm
@snood,
Correct. It was progressives saying that a blue wave was coming.

I confess that I am not following these cheating allegations closely enough to assess their validity. However, Democrats do have a history of trying to cheat (remember Al Gore in 2000), so it is natural for people to be suspicious.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:02 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Correct. It was progressives saying that a blue wave was coming.

I confess that I am not following these cheating allegations closely enough to assess their validity. However, Democrats do have a history of trying to cheat (remember Al Gore in 2000), so it is natural for people to be suspicious.


I can still remember a republican mob trying to break down the doors of where the voting was being recounted in 2000.

Cops should had been call to clear the building.

I did also found it amusing that the mob was made up mainly of Cubans who after fleeing Cuba have no problem with shutting down an election after their choose won.

Hell we do not need no damn recount.

No free elections in Cuban or Florida.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:08 pm
@BillRM,
They shut it down because the Democrats were cheating.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:26 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
No free elections in Cuban or Florida.

And the US if Democrats takeover.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:27 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

They shut it down because the Democrats were cheating.


Nonsense the Cubans shut down the recount in Dade County by mob actions long enough that the SC rule that there was no time to do a recount remaining.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:49 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

They shut it down because the Democrats were cheating.


I love the internet.

Quote:


https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2000/12/04/mob.html
Mob Scene in Miami

cover image
We look at the players behind the "spontaneous" protest that preceded the shutdown of Miami-Dade's recount

Tim Padgett/Miami
With reporting by Kathie Klarreich/Miami
November 27, 2000
Web posted at: 5:47 p.m. EST (2247 GMT)

Marjorie Strayer insisted she was just a Virginian on vacation in Miami. She had come to the downtown Stephen P. Clark Government Center to watch the Dade County vote recount--something to do before the trip to the Seaquarium. But Strayer, it turns out, is a top aide to New Mexico's Republican Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and was one of hundreds of paid G.O.P. crusaders who descended on South Florida last Wednesday to protest the state's recounts. "The system is unfair, inaccurate, fraught with human error!" Strayer cried. In a Winnebago outside, G.O.P. operatives orchestrated the ranks up to the 19th floor, hoping to halt the tally of the largest potential lode of Gore votes.

Republicans, not usually known for takin' it to the streets, got what they wanted. Just two hours after a near riot outside the counting room, the Miami-Dade canvassing board voted to shut down the count. Yet the way the Republicans went after it, by intimidating the three-member board or by providing the excuse it was looking for, gave Americans the first TV view of strong-arm tactics in what was supposed to be a showcase of democracy in action. If Jesse Jackson can do it, the Republicans argued, so can we. But the G.O.P.'s march turned into a mob. The screaming, the pounding on doors and the alleged physical assaults on Democrats suddenly made a bemused public queasy. "I'm all for anyone's right to protest," says Miami-Dade Democratic chairman Joe Geller, who had to have a police escort. "These were Brownshirt tactics."

It was the Dade vote counters, however, who provoked the Republican machine. Seemingly oblivious to G.O.P. anger over the Florida Supreme Court ruling to allow manual recounts, the canvassing board tried an end run around the court's Sunday deadline by deciding to recount only some 11,000 of Dade's 654,000 ballots. Those disputed ballots, most of which did not register presidential votes in the machines, were thought to favor Gore. Worse, the board moved into a smaller room that cut off public observation. "They denied our legal rights," says Paul Crespo, an ex-Marine and coordinator of a group called Young Professionals for Bush. "We cried foul." In fact, the Republicans, who justifiably delight in throwing 1960s chants back at Democrats, began shouting, "The whole world is watching!"

What the world watched was a G.O.P. melee. When Geller walked out of the room with a sample ballot, the crowd accused him of stealing a real one and responded as if he had just nabbed a baby for its organs. Geller says he was pushed by two dozen protesters screaming, "I'm gonna take you down!" Luis Rosero, a Democratic observer, claims he was punched and kicked. Republicans dispute the charges, but video cameras caught scenes of activism that had morphed into menace. The organizers in the RV outside, who G.O.P. protesters have told TIME were led by hardball Washington strategist Roger Stone, had phone banks churning out calls to Miami Republicans, urging them to storm downtown. (Stone could not be reached for comment.) One of them was a fire fighter, Rob Eltus, 45: "What Americans are finally seeing is Republicans fed up."

But what really may have given the canvassing board pause was a sight that strikes fear in any Florida politician, especially elected Dade County judges like Lawrence King, the board's chairman: angry Cuban voters. They marched on the Clark Center after a conservative radio station, Radio Mambi, broadcast interviews with two Cuban-American G.O.P. members of Congress, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who decried the board's moves. For Miami's Cubans, almost 80% of whom voted for Bush, this election is mostly about avenging Elian Gonzalez. One of Judge King's paid political consultants is Armando Gutierrez, the man who distributed the Orwellian videotape of Elian denouncing his father last spring.

Democrats last week called for a federal probe of the incident. Sources close to Democratic Miami-Dade Mayor Alex Penelas tell TIME that a G.O.P. intermediary, Miami political consultant Herman Echevarria--at the behest of state Republican leaders--tried to approach Penelas Wednesday morning to see if the mayor "might talk" to the canvassing board. The sources say Penelas preferred to stay out of it. (Dade elections supervisor David Leahy, a board member, also works for Penelas.) Both Echevarria and Florida G.O.P. chairman Al Cardenas deny such contact. But Penelas, a Cuban American, is seen as vulnerable by G.O.P. leaders because he has been estranged from the Gore campaign since the Elian debacle. Either way, Democrats are asking what the board said--and with whom they met--while holed up in the Clark Center waiting out the riot.

--With reporting by Kathie Klarreich/Miami



coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:55 pm
@snood,
Quote:
I’ll count us as lucky if they don’t actually try to do an armed coup.

Trump supporters are not violent and actually respect the law. Not that you would know anything about respect for law. You are trying to perpetuate a lie.

Just trying to help.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 09:57 pm
@BillRM,
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Cops should had been call to clear the building.

The ones Biden is going to defund?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:00 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Nonsense the Cubans shut down the recount in Dade County by mob actions long enough that the SC rule that there was no time to do a recount remaining.

It's not nonsense. The reason why they shut it down was because the Democrats were cheating and they were not going to put up with it.

It also was not Cubans who shut it down, but a selection of outraged Americans as a whole. The excellent John Bolton led the shutdown effort.

"I'm with the Bush Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."

Your memory of the timeline is a bit off too. The US Supreme Court ruling that there was no more time to do a recount came later, when the Florida Supreme Court ordered a new statewide recount after the earlier cheating attempts failed to yield enough votes for Gore to win.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:05 pm
@oralloy,



Read the CNN article from that time period I had poster here and then get back to me.

Sorry I was living in Florida at the time so it hard to bullshit me over this matter.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:08 pm
Quote:
Facebook's Takedown of Massive 'Stop the Steal' Group Exposes Glaring Double Standards

Facebook must think there could be some evidence or just does not want the obvious pointed out. There might people who actually think Facebook interfered in the election.

Quote:
Facebook groups like Black Lives Matter create "real-world" riots and violence but Big Tech allows those groups to exist. Left-leaning Facebook groups have also sought to delegitimize President Trump's victory in 2016.

It's a far cry from a "delegitimization of the election process" to simply shine a light on voting irregularities and instances of alleged voter fraud. If anyone has delegitimized the election process and created real-world chaos surrounding this year's election it's Democrats who changed the rules ahead of election day.

Big Tech is helping push the liberal media's false narrative that Joe Biden has already won the election and any questioning of voting irregularities and discrepancies are part of a delegitimization process designed to undo Biden's victory.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/05/facebook-deletes-stop-the-steal-group-n2579553
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:13 pm
@coldjoint,
The Republicans should really take steps to break up companies like Facebook and Twitter.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:17 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

The Republicans should really take steps to break up companies like Facebook and Twitter.


Going to be damn hard to do given that they only control one house of congress and barely that house.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:19 pm
@BillRM,
The Republicans will solidly control both houses of Congress after the 2022 election.

The day will come when the Republicans will control both the White House and Congress.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Nov, 2020 10:22 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Read the CNN article from that time period I had poster here and then get back to me.

Done.


BillRM wrote:
Sorry I was living in Florida at the time so it hard to bullshit me over this matter.

I always stick to the facts.
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