Let's fire Trump

My innards are just fine. I enjoy very good health and always have, good genes, I suppose.

Wanna bet?

I don't own any livestock.

Pence's office is selectively retaliating against reporters who disclosed its Mayo Clinic mask warning
[The Week]
Peter Weber

https://news.yahoo.com/pences-office-selectively-retaliating-against-101200588.html

Vice President Mike Pence wore a mask at a ventilator plant in Indiana on Thursday, two days after he was criticized for flouting the Mayo Clinic's rules by declining to wear facial covering. But for some reason, Pence's office seems to want to keep the story alive.

Karen Pence assured Fox News on Thursday that her husband had not been informed of the mandatory mask policy until after the Mayo tour concluded. This contradicted a since-deleted tweet from the Mayo Clinic, and two reporters tweeted after Karen Pence's interview that the vice president's office had informed them a day earlier about the Mayo Clinic's policy.



All of us who traveled with him were notified by the office of @VP the day before the trip that wearing of masks was required by the @MayoClinic and to prepare accordingly. https://t.co/LFqh27LusD

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) April 30, 2020

also, everyone in the entire Mayo Clinic had a mask on, everyone, and we were all told the day before we had to wear a mask if we entered the clinic https://t.co/cNW4fJ87Q4

— Gordon Lubold (@glubold) April 30, 2020

Steve Herman, who covers the White House for VOA News, said the White House Correspondents' Association informed him Pence's office has banned him from further travel on Air Force Two, The Washington Post reports. Pence's office and VOA later said discussions are still ongoing about any possible punishment. Gordon Lubold, who works for The Wall Street Journal, has not been sanctioned by Pence's office for his tweet.

The ostensible issue is Herman violating confidentiality rules. Monday's planning memo was marked "OFF THE RECORD AND FOR PLANNING PURPOSES ONLY," but that standard requirement is typically for security purposes, the Post reports, and "there's some question about how long the obligation lasts — whether it is permanent or only applies to the period before and during the trip." Herman's tweet was nearly 48 hours after the trip. Pence's office declined to comment.

Think he will have his computer hacked and tap his telephone like Obama's FBI And DOJ did to Sharryl Attikkson and James Rosen?

Part of socialism, i.e. the kind of socialism that pushes people into behavioral conformity by spotlighting non-conformist behavior, is choosing high profile individuals in order to test the power of pushing them into conformity.

So it seems that Pence has been targeted as a 'mask-deviant' to see if social-pressure can be used to control someone high in US government in some way. If they can bring him into collective submission in just this one thing, they will celebrate like they achieved the moon-landing.

It's just a question of how much can they achieve with social-pressure, media critique, etc. over high profile individuals instead of accepting individual liberty and merely encouraging people to think more about social-distancing and pathogen-awareness.

Even if Pence just decided independently to wear the mask after reflecting on the matter, 'social-pressurists' would still take his change of behavior as a symbolic achievement and thus a notch on their collective-power belt.

I always wonder if it's even possible for such people to come around to the spirit of liberty, if they are able to grasp it at all on an intellectual level. I think some can understand it but they just dismiss it as inadequate compared with the power of forcing collective-submission/conformity by application of social-cultural pressure.

E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Joshua Bote. USA TODAY 02/20/2020

The longtime advice columnist who accused Donald Trump in 2019 of raping her was fired from her post at Elle.

E. Jean Carroll, who helmed the "Ask E. Jean" column for the magazine since 1993, was let go from her position in December, according to a court filing published Tuesday.

"Because Trump ridiculed my reputation, laughed at my looks, & dragged me through the mud, after 26 years, ELLE fired me," she wrote in a tweet Tuesday. "I don't blame Elle ... I blame @realdonaldtrump."

According to a court filing by Roberta Kaplan, Carroll's lawyer, Elle's managing editor Erin Hobday wrote on Dec. 11, 2019 to confirm that her contract with the company had been terminated and that she would no longer be writing for the publication. Her last column was published in November.

"We and your readers so appreciate your many years of work for the magazine, and the wonderful columns you contributed to our publication," read the email. "We will miss you tremendously."

The news comes after Carroll's counsel requested a saliva sample from Trump to confirm that his DNA matches up with genetic material found on a dress she said she wore during her encounter with Trump. Trump has until March 2 to submit the sample, but his team requested that it be delayed until another defamation case filed by "Apprentice" contestant Summer Zervos be decided.

"Trump’s motion is just the latest attempt to prevent Carroll from having her day in court, and a stay (a stop to any legal proceedings) would compound the harms to Carroll that Trump’s defamatory statements continue to cause," read a filing submitted by Carroll's counsel Tuesday.

In an excerpt from her memoir "What Do We Need Men For?" published in New York magazine a month before the book's official release, she alleged that Trump had reached under her dress, pulled down her tights and raped her in a department store dressing room.

Carroll filed a defamation suit against Trump in November, saying he smeared her and hindered her career after the president denied her rape allegation and accused her of lying to bolster book sales. Trump dismissed a photo of them and their spouses at a social event in 1987.

An attempt by Trump's lawyer to get the case thrown out was rejected last month.

A representative from Hearst, Elle's parent company, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from USA TODAY.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/20/e-jean-carroll-columnist-who-says-trump-raped-her-fired/4819272002/

The Left is accusing Reade of taking her story from her fathers book. I guess it is the Rights turn.

If the story is fabricated then all Trump has to do is submit a saliva test to prove she's wrong.

You do not have to prove your innocence in the US. I know you have forgotten how the system works. If authorities think it is warranted they would have Trump's saliva. The charges must not be credible.

He's being SUED for it.

Then what's the problem? Looks like you will find out.

What was this a gangbang? Why would they test other people? What did she do with her sleeves?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/30/e-jean-carroll-says-donald-trump-raped-her-seeks-dna/2855301001/

Hypothetically, IF someone totally fabricated an accusation of sexual misconduct PURELY for the sake of garnering public intrigue and making money on the attention, would it bother you that they did that? Would you see it as a distraction from real misconduct, or would you just ignore that it was fake because you would be afraid that admitting it would make it easier to question the true stories of honest victims?

To prove the falsity? Yes, submit and have the case dismissed. That's what an innocent person would do.

Like Biden not having his records released?

So it doesn't bother you when people lie for personal gain at the expense of someone else?

E.g. if some colleague said you were sleeping with the boss to make you look bad and thus make herself or himself more worthy of promotion, you would just accept that and submit to it?

Sure it bothers me. And the only way to set things straight is to PROVE it, such as a saliva test. Same thing with employment drug screens. Don't do drugs, take the test. Get the job. Easy....

So you would submit to a saliva test to prove your not sleeping with your boss if someone accused you just to be malicious?

I would rather just not be harassed by people who lie for personal gain. If they use victim drama to manipulate others into taking their side against me, it would offend me that much more because there are real victims who aren't just using crocodile tears to manipulate personal and/or political/economic gain.

Identifying the truth is more important.