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Trump, be a leader, not a blamer.

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 10:38 am
That is so unfair. Why do you think there are so few test kits? It's so Plump can keep a lid on new cases. Sheesh!
livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 10:43 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

That is so unfair. Why do you think there are so few test kits? It's so Plump can keep a lid on new cases. Sheesh!

Scarcity induces higher bidding, typically.

Abundance drives prices down.

That could be a motive, not that people exploit health care for price gouging typically . . .
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 10:49 am
@livinglava,
By telling state Governors to fend for themselves, states are competing against each other instead of a singular federal unit. Trump made it a competition instead of a unifying strategy. He doesn't know how to handle a crisis.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 10:51 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
He doesn't know how to handle a crisis.

Tell that to the 60% of Americans that think he does.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 10:55 am
@coldjoint,
Sure, among party lines, that is true. However, that is still a minority number.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:08 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
However, that is still a minority number

60% is not a minority. It is mathematically impossible.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:11 am
@coldjoint,
That's total BS.

"The latest Gallup poll, released Tuesday, has Trump’s approval rating hitting 49%, matching his best performance in the poll."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/24/trump-approval-rating-rises-amid-response-to-coronavirus.html

"Amid a dramatic public health and economic crisis over the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump’s approval rating is rising — though he’s still lagging far behind state and local officials in the US.

According to two new polls — one from Monmouth University and one from CBS/YouGov — the president received better marks than most institutions and officials; only health care providers, public health experts, and state and local officials were better rated.

Monmouth’s polling found 50 percent of US adults believe Trump is doing a “good job” responding to the coronavirus, with 45 percent saying he’s done a “bad job.” The poll has a 3.4 percentage point margin of error, one large enough that most Americans could actually disapprove of the president’s performance."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/24/21192409/coronavirus-pandemic-trump-approval-rating-polls

"A Morning Consult poll conducted Tuesday through Friday found 53 percent of voters approve of Trump’s handling of the spread of coronavirus, compared with 39 percent who disapprove. Taken together, it marks an increase of 10 percentage points in net approval of his coronavirus response since polling conducted March 13-16."

https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/20/trump-approval-coronavirus-response/

"President Donald Trump is enjoying his best approval rating in three years amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to a closely-watched polling average.

The FiveThirtyEight tracker puts Trump's average approval rating at 44.7 percent, its highest since March 12, 2017, which was day 52 into his presidency. Trump's average disapproval rating is currently at 50.5 percent, its best figure since March 16, 2017, day 56 into his presidency.

The president still comes out with a net negative rating, however, of minus 5.8 percent."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-coronavirus-pandemic-response-1494118

Even with the margin of polling error, none of those reach 60%. Learn to tell the truth, rather than just puking up the latest reactionary propaganda. The truth will set you free.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:11 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Why do you think there are so few test kits? It's so Plump can keep a lid on new cases. Sheesh!

New cases actually help Trump. They lower the mortality rate. The lower that rate becomes the faster we get back to work. That people want Trump to fail is shameful.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:16 am
@coldjoint,
That a pack of morons think people will go back to work any time soon is shameful. I guess rightwing clowns don't care how many Americans will die.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:19 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
That's total BS.

The 60% applies to his handling of the pandemic. That is fact. If you cannot comprehend the difference between that and his overall approval that is your problem.
Quote:
Trump’s Handling of Coronavirus Approved by 60% in Gallup Poll

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-e2-80-99s-handling-of-coronavirus-approved-by-60-25-in-gallup-poll/ar-BB11EEcI
Quote:
Gallup Polls Shows Trump Gets 60% Approval Rating on Handling Wuhan Virus Crisis

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/03/24/gallup-polls-shows-trump-gets-60-approval-rating-on-handling-wuhan-virus-crisis/
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:20 am
@coldjoint,
how do you test dead pople for covid?? Seems pretty obvious about the results. NOT testing lets trump claim that they all committed suicide. We need to know the rates of increase. Thats how all isolation and quarantine work.Trump cares not for any medical science, its only about HIM.


coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:22 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
I guess rightwing clowns don't care how many Americans will die.

The Democrats delayed the bill. They tried to fill it with crap that would never pass. All done at the expense of Americans. They used a crisis killing Americans as leverage. Try the truth. It won't hurt.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:23 am
@coldjoint,
A Reuters/Ipsos online survey of more than 4,000 Americans found 49% approve of Trump's handling of the COVID-19 crisis, while 44% disapproved.

Those results largely fell along party lines. Republicans approved of the president's response 83%-13%, while Democrats disapproved 71%-24%. Independents were split, 43%-43%.

An Economist/YouGov poll also found that 49% approve of Trump's management of the outbreak with 44% saying they disapprove. And, as with the Reuters poll, the opinions largely fell along party lines.

Eighty-nine percent of registered Republicans said they approved of Trump's response, while only 7% said they disapproved. Among Democrats, 74% said they disapproved, while 21% approved. Independents were divided: 42% approved and 45% disapproved.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/26/trump-coronavirus-response-polls/2914418001/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:31 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
A Reuters/Ipsos online survey of more than 4,000 Americans found 49% approve of Trump's handling of the COVID-19 crisis, while 44% disapproved.

My poll says something different. I like my poll better. Next.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:40 am
@coldjoint,
From the Microsoft News source you cite:

Quote:
The survey, which carried a margin of error of plus or minus 4%, was conducted from March 13 through March 22, meaning it concluded before the president signaled his desire to reopen the country for businesses and social gatherings by the April 12, Easter Sunday.


Today is the 26th, slick. Your other source is Redstate. Redstate, really? It uses the same poll source--the same four days out of date poll.

When Plump announced that he expects to "reopen" in less than three weeks time, his numbers dropped again.

Welcome to the real world, slick.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:42 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Welcome to the real world, slick.

You have to be in the real world to welcome anyone in. Let me know when you arrive.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:44 am
@coldjoint,
Keller @ Large: Coronavirus Poll Shows Public Listening To Medical Experts, Not President
By Jon KellerMarch 26, 2020 at 11:11 amFiled Under:Coronavirus, Jon Keller, Keller At Large

BOSTON (CBS) – It’s called the “rally ’round the flag effect,” the polling bounce that presidents routinely benefit from when we’re touched by some international crisis.

President John F. Kennedy’s numbers jumped by 15 points during and after the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. President Jimmy Carter got a 26 point bounce after the Iranians took our embassy personnel hostage in 1979. In 1991 President George H.W. Bush’s Gallup poll rating soared by 30 points after the first Gulf War. And in the granddaddy of all RRFEs, President George W. Bush’s approval rose by 34 points after 9/11.

President Donald Trump is enjoying his own bounce, a modest single-digit one in current polls more in line with the six percent increase in President Barack Obama’s numbers in the wake of the elimination of Osama bin Laden. But the history of the RRFE is that these popularity surges are short-lived; both Carter and H.W. Bush lost their re-election bids within months of their bounce.

And judging from a new Morning Consult poll taken earlier this week, Mr. Trump may be facing the same phenomenon. It indicates that while the reflexive tendency to rally behind our president when Americans are under attack is present, it’s not based on a positive response to the specifics of Trump’s handling of the crisis.

Despite his musings about lifting restrictions on public activity as soon as Easter in at least some parts of the country, the poll finds strong public support – even among Republicans – for continuing bans on all but essential activity:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3859903/2020/03/keller1.jpg
(Poll information courtesy: Morning Consult)

This suggests the public is listening to the medical experts and state and local leaders who’ve been far less sanguine about the recovery timeline, not the president.

Only a tiny fraction seem open to the idea of a return to public gatherings within a couple of weeks, as the president suggested in his remarks about “packed” churches on Easter Sunday.

Here’s the percentage of voters who think we’ll be able to stop social distancing and return to public spaces in:

Two weeks: 6%
The next month: 20%
In 2 months: 27%
In 3 months: 18%
In 6 months: 9%
More than 6 months: 7%

These results are roughly similar across all party categories.


President Trump and the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)

I don’t know what the ratings are for the president’s embarrassing daily briefings, where he boasts about the federal response, hints at miracle cures and quick return to normalcy and trashes the media for allegedly ginning up the crisis to harm his re-election, as the medical professionals struggle to keep straight faces behind him. If he’s lucky, these sessions are just background noise for most Americans, too busy trying to stay safe and worrying about loved ones and their future to digest more than an occasional Trump soundbite.

But whatever it is they’re digesting, this poll suggest most Americans are tuning out his messages.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-covid-19-morning-consult-poll-dr-anthony-fauci-president-trump-jon-keller-wbz-tv-news/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:47 am
Quote:
Gallup Poll: Majority Of Americans Disapprove Of News Media Handling Of Wuhan Coronavirus

Quote:
Of nine leaders and institutions rated by Americans in a new poll on their response to the novel Wuhan Coronavirus, the media fared the worst, and it’s not even close.

That is the crap so many here live on. The MSM garbage which is anti-Trump and now anti-American pushing Chinese propaganda. People know they are not to be trusted.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/26/gallup-poll-majority-of-americans-disapprove-of-news-media-handling-of-wuhan-coronavirus/#.XnzBAwGAecc.twitter
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:50 am
@coldjoint,
Source?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 26 Mar, 2020 11:57 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Source?

Look at the edit.
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