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A Parlour for a Plague

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 12:34 pm
My father and stepfather both were alcoholics. You would think after the examples they set I would avoid drinking altogether. But I spent years overdoing it. I felt I had to have a drink in my hand during non work hours. I finally persuaded myself to quit, but it was a drawn out painful process. Now I can be with a roomful of friendly drunks and not have a drink at all.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 12:35 pm
@chai2,
Quote:
Domestic/child abuse, alcoholism etc.


I don't mean this as a joke but I keep thinking why the heck are liquor stores considered essential? Now I am glad because I had a nice glass of wine with my mother's day dinner, but essential? My other question is then why are not recreational pot shops open? I mean I honestly don't care because I do not use the stuff - but really is that right? You can drink up but you cannot use pot.

As far as not hearing about this abuse and drinking - yeah I have heard about this quite a bit and concern over this. It is actually one argument that is made why we should slowly open things up.

To save lives due to this potential increased alcoholism/consumption and increased abuse. People saying which is worse or could be potentially worse as part of saving lives?

ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 03:21 pm
The Snowbirds are partway through a cross-Canada inspiration tour.

We got a double fly-over yesterday.

They are immediately above us at the start of this (we are on the flightpath to one of the hospitals they were saluting)



but even better

https://www.facebook.com/blogto/videos/2528504687401620/
jespah
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 03:40 pm
@Linkat,
Liquor stores are open so thin hospital resources don't have to be stretched to also care for people with DTs.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 03:57 pm
@jespah,
big truth there
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 05:13 pm
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

Liquor stores are open so thin hospital resources don't have to be stretched to also care for people with DTs.


That's an idea, but how many people went into DT's during Prohibition? I don't know.

Liquor stores also sell cigarettes. A lot of taxes on to be earned on booze and smokes. The alcohol and tobacco industries have a lot of connections in high places.
If package stores were closed, wouldn't convenience stores and grocery store still sell wine and beer at least?

While the DT's are serious, I did a little checking, and it boils down to about 50 to 70 thousand people in the US getting them every year.

Considering between yesterday and today the number of COVID cases in Tx went up by approximately 1000, and the number of people in the hosptial has remained pretty flat for about 3 weeks, here at least I think there's some room for other types of patients.

Many people go through some symptoms of alcohol withdrawl, but the doesn't mean everyone gets DTs. In fact it says that about 5% of people experiencing w/d symptoms develop DTs.

I think if someone wants to drink that badly, they'll make due with what they can get, or find some other way to get it (in general)
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 05:16 pm
@chai2,
Re dv and child abuse.


First thing that came to mind for anyone used to working in the real world were the obvious increase in both that were going to happen and the obvious decrease in reporting of said abuse as women were trapped in their homes with the abuser and unable to call for help and children were not having access to people outside the home to report on their behalf or to whom they could talk.

One of our stupider politicians did, in fact, comment that reports of such behaviour had decreased, but the system was ready and primed to correct said idiot.

I’m out of the system now, but I’m aware, and indeed waiting to hear advertised, a bunch of new contract positions for the domestic violence hotline...although in my state and several others, having had no new cases for over a week, we are slowly stepping down restrictions

I don’t know what’s been going on while everyone has been home but I dread to think

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Borat Sister
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 05:21 pm
@ehBeth,
I miss living in our the middle of the city sometimes, partly because for years I had all sorts of aerobatic displays right over my house every year for our Grand Prix.

Mind you, there’s a wee bit of nervousness when the solo folk start falling backwards out of the air right over your house. You’re happy when their engines restart.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 07:28 pm
@chai2,
I had a secretary once who drank Vanilla Extract, of which she kept a huge bottle in her desk. That stuff is often like 70 proof.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 07:36 pm
@farmerman,
Did she act like she wasn't drinking, but just enjoyed the taste of vanilla?

That seems like an awfully expensive way to get drunk.
Borat Sister
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 07:47 pm
@farmerman,
You can get huge bottles?

chai2
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 07:56 pm
@Borat Sister,
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7fee6da1-1509-4ecf-984e-ff911848fbc6_1.558485d2340a19c3f06feb0738ebce5e.png?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 08:13 pm
@chai2,
its a really long story with a really bad ending . Im sorry I mentioned it here.
She was also embezzling cash from my company so ,lets say her vanilla drinking problem was merely a way that I discovered her actual crimes.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 08:18 pm
@chai2,
hers was in glass bottles. Is that stuff the propylene glycol vanilla? My secretary would kill like a pint a day just so she didnt have to go to a Pa Liquor store (Our liquor sals are done by govt (Liquor Control Bord) shops. Its a stupid system thats just there for making more revenue for the state.
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Borat Sister
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 08:21 pm
@chai2,
For cake factories?
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2020 11:52 pm
I've always been curious about huge industrial size containers of food for the restaurant industry.

Back in college a friend worked in a restaurant, and I'd meet him there after hours while he was closing up the registers and stuff.

I would marvel at the enormous cans of food products.

I never used this product myself, but he gave me an empty 10 pound can of Accent (msg).

I kept it around for a number of years. Forget what I stored in it.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ6J1-44Kno_oO6MdDZKzbwaBmey1bJwOwlpHvTBA1ilh2iL6I4yPU5WbLdiO33nS6Wd59o54w&usqp=CAc
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 06:40 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I had a secretary once who drank Vanilla Extract, of which she kept a huge bottle in her desk. That stuff is often like 70 proof.


Really? I’d think that a very expensive habit. I bought some recently not for drinking purposes but baking any way real vanilla extract which is significantly better than the fake stuff is very expensive ... you typically only need a little when baking I can’t imagine how much it would cost for drinking but maybe the fake stuff has a high percent of alcohol.
Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 06:42 am
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Did she act like she wasn't drinking, but just enjoyed the taste of vanilla?

That seems like an awfully expensive way to get drunk.



Looks like chai best me to it again
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 06:45 am
I used to work with a man who tried to drink a six pack of beer on his way to the job, then again at lunch time and went straight to a bar after quitting time. I think he was around fifty when he died.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2020 07:50 am
@Linkat,
no, the vanillin (fake vanilla) is actually a similr compound as Vinyl Chloride. AND its diluted with propylene glycol. They sell the stuff in mexico a lot. I used to buy some to bring home till I red the label.
OY
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