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mommabear
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 03:33 pm
More likely the vaccines themselves will thin the herd. You've got one French Nobel Lauriet virologist saying as much.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 03:54 pm
Pfizer seeks regulatory approval to give people a third vaccine dose.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-34c3f2536747a7c08980d7359a8de70c
mommabear
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 04:33 pm
@oralloy,
Did you think they were gonna stop at two or three?

That isn't how rackets work.

Can you imagine having some sort of a product to sell and having all of the world's governments forcing all of their people to buy your product with new installments every six or eight months or so?

Is a better racket than that even imaginable??
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mommabear
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 04:47 pm


mommabear
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 04:52 pm
That is apparenbtly what Bill Gates had in mind when he said that vaccines were a 20-times better investment/racket than computer software. He said he can't believe he wasted all those years with computers.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 04:57 pm
@mommabear,
Ha!

If they come to my door, I'll bargain with them. I'll tell them that I want TWO McDonalds meals, TWO joints, and a couple hundred bucks.

. . . and some free oil changes.
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mommabear
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 08:22 pm
Two mice are sitting in a bar. First mouse ask the second one "you gonna get that vakseen?" Second mouse says "he!! no, they ain't done testing it on humans".
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 08:28 pm
@mommabear,
mommabear wrote:

More likely the vaccines themselves will thin the herd. You've got one French Nobel Lauriet virologist saying as much.


Sorry, you are wrong. Montagnier did not say that, it was inaccurately posted on FaceBook but it's not true.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jul, 2021 08:31 pm
@mommabear,
mommabear wrote:

Two mice are sitting in a bar. First mouse ask the second one "you gonna get that vakseen?" Second mouse says "he!! no, they ain't done testing it on humans".


Don't quit your day job.
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mommabear
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 02:50 am
@glitterbag,
Possible. I've lost my ability to check on it, bandwidth on the story totally hogged now by "factcheckers"...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 04:27 am
BioNTech and Pfizer announced that they are developing a version of the coronavirus vaccine that targets Delta, a highly contagious variant that has spread to 98 countries.
The companies expect to launch clinical trials of the vaccine in August.

BioNTech news release
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 04:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The Novavax vaccine will probably be ready by the time a new Pfizer vaccine makes it through testing.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/novavax-now-best-covid-19-vaccine/619276/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bdak/novavax-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-covid-vaccine
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 05:14 am
@oralloy,
The Novax vaccine's trials were only with the Alpha and Beta variants as far as I read.
mommabear
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 09:17 am
In the news:

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/06/27/surgeon-who-operated-on-young-italian-vaccine-victim-you-have-never-seen-anything-like-this/
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mommabear
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 09:24 am
20-times return on investment:


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bill-gates-turns-10-billion-into-200-billion-worth-of-economic-benefit.html
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 09:26 am
@mommabear,
Here is what he said:

"It's a huge mistake, it's a scientific error and an inexplicable medical fault, history will one day take stock of all this, because it was indeed vaccination that created the variant."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 09:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Public Health England says Pfizer, AstraZeneca vaccines effective in high-risk groups
Quote:
LONDON, July 9 (Reuters) - Public Health England (PHE) said on Friday Pfizer (PFE.N) and AstraZeneca (AZN.L) COVID-19 vaccines were effective against symptomatic COVID-19 infection in high risk groups, citing a preprint study based on 1 million vulnerable people.

Overall vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease in risk groups was around 60% after one dose of either AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech with little difference by age, PHE said.

That rises to 81% for AstraZeneca following a second dose in people in risk groups aged 16 to 64, with no data available for Pfizer. Among those over 64, Pfizer was 89% effective and AstraZeneca 80% effective after the second dose, the health agency said.

"This real-world data shows for the first time that most people who are clinically vulnerable to COVID-19 still receive high levels of protection after 2 doses of vaccine," said Mary Ramsay, Head of Immunisation at PHE.

(Corrects figures in third paragraph to 81%, 89% and 80%, not 78%, 87% and 76% after PHE amended its statement)

Reporting by Alistair Smout; Editing by Kate Holton
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 09:51 am
THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES

There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.

In the 1960’s, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.

In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren’t necessary back then.

In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.

After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960’s.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:

In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.

The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a “cytokine storm” (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

Here’s the lingering issue…

The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.

In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA “vaccines” been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I’m sure they figured that out.

Except they don’t know if they have…
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The links mentioned in this post can be found here: https://www.citizensjournal.us/18-reasons-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine/

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 10:15 am
The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race

Here are 5 things to know about BioNTech and the married couple behind the COVID-19 vaccine developed with Pfizer
mommabear
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2021 10:23 am
The reaason for the clotting:

https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/Hoffemajorityclotting-1:1
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