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Coronavirus

 
 
farmerman
 
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Sun 1 Nov, 2020 03:05 pm
@Brandon9000,
actually SCott Ritter had said that W's pronouncement on WMD's was Bullshit waaay before Hans wised up.

Scott turnd out a hero and the politicians, were all toadies. (Similar to what weve got now, except not as well supplied and planned.
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izzythepush
 
  -1  
Sun 1 Nov, 2020 03:10 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:

Bush didn't say that Saddam had WMDs. He said he strongly suspected that development programs were still extant and that there might even be actual WMDs.


Ok, I didn’t believe any of the crap that came out of Dubya’s mouth. And I was right not to because he was wrong. You can fanny about as much as you want arguing about what he actually said about WMDs, but he was wrong.
Brandon9000
 
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Sun 1 Nov, 2020 03:50 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

Bush didn't say that Saddam had WMDs. He said he strongly suspected that development programs were still extant and that there might even be actual WMDs.


Ok, I didn’t believe any of the crap that came out of Dubya’s mouth. And I was right not to because he was wrong. You can fanny about as much as you want arguing about what he actually said about WMDs, but he was wrong.

This is a subject for another thread, but I don't agree that he was wrong. If you get fire insurance for your home and then it doesn't burn down, were you wrong? What would have been the consequence if Saddam Hussein had had a nuclear weapons development program and it had eventually produced real bombs? They would now enjoy the near total invulnerability that North Korea has today.
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roger
 
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Sun 1 Nov, 2020 05:16 pm
@Brandon9000,
Biden could become president and not say or do a darned thing and would still be better than Trump.

It would be better to say we don't need a president than to say we shouldn't have one.
Brandon9000
 
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Sun 1 Nov, 2020 05:46 pm
@roger,
Walter Hinteler claimed that Trump said that the virus "affects virtually no one." What he actually said that it affects virtually nobody below the age of 18.
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tsarstepan
 
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Mon 2 Nov, 2020 08:26 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 6 Nov, 2020 07:44 am

The role of minks in the infection process has been under discussion already since May. (At that time, an employee of a mink farm in the Netherlands was infected by the fur animals.)

The Danish health institute SSI reported on Friday that the mutated pathogen was detected in 214 people. 200 cases occurred in Northern Jutland alone. This region is particularly rich in mink farms.
Nationwide, Sars-CoV-2 has already been found in 216 breeding farms.

Source:
SSI (Statens Serum Institute): Mutationer i minkvirus
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 7 Nov, 2020 09:28 am
@Walter Hinteler,

To date, six countries, namely Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Italy and the United States of America have reported SARS-CoV-2 in farmed minks to the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE).
According to a WHO report, only the Danish mutation is of concern.

SARS-CoV-2 mink-associated variant strain – Denmark
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Region Philbis
 
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Tue 10 Nov, 2020 07:52 pm

The C.D.C. updates its findings:
Mask-wearing protects you, not just those around you


“Experimental and epidemiological data support community masking to reduce the spread”
of the virus, the C.D.C. said in a document that details scientific evidence supporting mask
use. “Individual benefit increases with increasing community mask use,” it said.

The agency also offered an economic argument, saying that increasing the proportion of
people who wear masks by 15 percent could prevent the need for lockdowns and cut
associated losses of up to $1 trillion, or about 5 percent of gross domestic product...
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Region Philbis
 
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Wed 11 Nov, 2020 05:20 pm

Mental Health Problems Found In One Fifth Of Covid-19 Patients After Recovery

Around 18 percent of people who have had Covid-19 are diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder such as anxiety,
depression, or insomnia within three months of falling sick, including those with no history of mental health
problems, a new study has found...
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Wilso
 
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Sun 15 Nov, 2020 09:20 pm
Given what's happening in the US, this needs re-posting.

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Region Philbis
 
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Tue 17 Nov, 2020 06:17 am

US hospitalizations and deaths are trending up while our lame-duck leader sits on his hands and does nothing...
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engineer
 
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Tue 17 Nov, 2020 07:57 am
A South Dakota nurse talking about her patients' state of denial.

Quote:
“I can’t help but think of the Covid patients the last few days,” she tweeted. “The ones that stick out are those who still don’t believe the virus is real. The ones who scream at you for a magic medicine and that Joe Biden is … Going to ruin the USA.”

She added: “All while gasping for breath on 100% Vapotherm. They tell you there must be another reason they are sick. They call you names and ask why you have to wear all that ‘stuff’ because they don’t have COViD because it’s not real.”

Some state officials and residents in South Dakota — a coronavirus hot spot in which a majority of voters cast ballots for President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election — have been vocal about downplaying the threat of the virus.

Gov. Kristi Noem (R) has refused to put a mask mandate in place. In response to President-elect Joe Biden’s proposed idea that there be a nationwide lockdown and mask mandate once he takes office to help quell the spread of the virus, Noem’s office told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader in a statement Friday that she has no intention of using state resources to enforce any federal COVID-19 orders.

In August, an estimated 460,000 visitors from all across the country entered the city of Sturgis, South Dakota, for the annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, despite other large events being canceled due to the pandemic. By the end of the month, Sturgis attendees began testing positive for COVID-19 and by early September, a working paper from the IZA Institute of Labor Economics said the 10-day event may have led to nearly 267,000 cases across the country. Noem, however, rejected the paper’s findings, and called it “fiction.”

She also told Fox News that the four economists from three U.S. universities that researched the paper “took a snapshot in time, and they did a lot of speculation, did some back-of-the-napkin math, made up some numbers and published them.”

Yet, factors that contribute to the spread of the coronavirus are hard to ignore when Doering emphasized to CNN (above) the extent of some of her COVID-19 patients’ denial.

“People want it to be influenza, they want it to be pneumonia, we’ve even had people say, ‘I think it could be lung cancer,’” Doering told the outlet. The nurse said that when she suggests that some patients should FaceTime with their friends and family for a final conversation, they say, “‘No, because I’m doing fine.’”

She said this attitude is taking a serious toll on health care workers.

“It’s like a ******* horror movie that never ends,” she tweeted Saturday. “There’s no credits that roll. You just go back and do it all over again.”
farmerman
 
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Tue 17 Nov, 2020 10:18 am
@engineer,
What I find sad is that we are apparently so close to a set of vaccines that work and the number of people that weve left get sick and die is like the men whove been the last to die just before the Armistice has been called.

Trump has washed his hands of all his responsibility yet he still maintains a base of voters who are stupidly credulous.
These are people who apparently buy used boats on the internet without inspections of their soundness.

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izzythepush
 
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Tue 17 Nov, 2020 10:58 am
I remember studying the General Prologue to the Canterbury Tales by Chaucer at school. It starts off with a celebration of Spring, and our teacher took great lengths to impress on us how important Spring was. It meant Winter was over and more importantly you had another year to live, you’d survived, you’d made it.

It seems very much the case today, if we make it to Spring we can get vaccinated.
InfraBlue
 
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Tue 17 Nov, 2020 12:54 pm
@izzythepush,
Not to mention that he lived during the time of Black Death.
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engineer
 
  2  
Wed 18 Nov, 2020 11:47 am
Deaths rising fast.

Quote:
At this rate, coronavirus is killing at least one American every minute of the day.

At least 1,707 new Covid-19 deaths were reported Tuesday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. That's the highest daily death toll since May 14. And it's only going to get worse, said Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a professor at George Washington University School of Medicine.

"The horrible death count that we saw yesterday in the United States ... reflects the number of people who were being infected three weeks ago -- two to three weeks ago, because that's the lag," Reiner said Wednesday. "On average, two to three weeks ago, we were seeing 70,000 to 80,000 (new) cases per day. Yesterday, there were about 155,000 (new) cases. So if you're alarmed at the 1,700 deaths today, two to three weeks from now, we're going to see 3,000 deaths a day."
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Region Philbis
 
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Wed 18 Nov, 2020 01:37 pm

In setback, NYC to close public schools again as virus cases rise

New York City’s entire public school system will shutter on Thursday, the schools chancellor
Richard A. Carranza wrote in an email to principals, in a worrisome signal that a second wave
of the coronavirus has arrived. Schools have been open for in-person instruction for just under
eight weeks.

“As of this morning, November 18, the City has now reached this threshold of test positivity
citywide and, as a result, the DOE will temporarily close down all public school buildings for
in-person learning, Thursday, November 19,” Mr. Carranza wrote shortly after 2 p.m. on
Wednesday, about four hours after Mayor de Blasio was scheduled to give a news conference...
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Region Philbis
 
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Thu 19 Nov, 2020 09:05 am

gee, whooda thunk?

States that imposed few restrictions now have worst outbreaks

Coronavirus cases are rising in almost every U.S. state. But the surge is worst now in places
where leaders neglected to keep up forceful virus containment efforts or failed to implement
basic measures like mask mandates in the first place, according to a New York Times analysis
of data from the University of Oxford.

Outbreaks are comparatively smaller in states where efforts to contain the virus were stronger
over the summer and fall — potential good news for leaders taking action now. States and cities
are reinstating restrictions and implementing new ones: In recent days, the governors of Iowa,
North Dakota and Utah imposed mask mandates for the first time since the outbreak began...
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Region Philbis
 
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Sat 21 Nov, 2020 05:59 am

Most cases are spread by people without symptoms, CDC says

Most coronavirus infections are spread by people who have no symptoms, the US Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention said in newly updated guidance.

It's one of the main reasons mask use is so important, the CDC said.

"CDC and others estimate that more than 50% of all infections are transmitted from people
who are not exhibiting symptoms," it added in the guidance posted Friday...
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