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Coronavirus

 
 
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 02:50 am
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/98/c6/f3/98c6f3df5acb6685275f3bf2b077a956.jpg
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Palandre
 
  -4  
Mon 17 Aug, 2020 03:04 am
Ah, well, the plot....

Quote:
‘No masks were worn in one operating theatre for 6 months. There was no increase in the incidence of wound infection

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493952/pdf/annrcse01509-0009.pdf


Of course there wasn't, it is a plandemic, a scam, a hoax!!
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Palandre
 
  -4  
Mon 17 Aug, 2020 03:09 am
Crucial Viewing - to truly understand our current Viral Issu:

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Palandre
 
  -4  
Mon 17 Aug, 2020 04:18 am
Hmmmm.

Quote:
More Than a Dozen Credible Medical Studies Prove Face Masks Do Not Work Even In Hospitals!

As a person who went to medical school, I was shocked when I read Neil Orr’s study, published in 1981 in the Annals of the Royal College of Surgeons of England.

Dr. Orr was a surgeon in the Severalls Surgical Unit in Colchester. And for six months, from March through August 1980, the surgeons and staff in that unit decided to see what would happen if they did not wear masks during surgeries.

They wore no masks for six months and compared the rate of surgical wound infections from March through August 1980 with the rate of wound infections from March through August of the previous four years.

And they discovered, to their amazement, that when nobody wore masks during surgeries, the rate of wound infections was less than half what it was when everyone wore masks.

Their conclusion: “It would appear that minimum contamination can best be achieved by not wearing a mask at all” and that wearing a mask during surgery “is a standard procedure that could be abandoned.”

https://visionlaunch.com/more-than-a-dozen-credible-medical-studies-prove-face-masks-do-not-work-even-in-hospitals/



Now, people with facemaks, get those mask of! Now!
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lmur
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 05:03 am
To those tired of the propaganda flibbertigibbet propounding his nonsensical wares, some real news.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0816/1159506-coronavirus-experts-this-week/
Ragman
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 05:33 am
Palaver: Stupid is as stupid does!
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 07:45 am
@Ragman,
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Palaver: Stupid is as stupid does!


Sure, because????

Can you tell me?
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 07:49 am
@lmur,
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Coronavirus will be with us 'for all eternity'


of course! Coronavirus was already always here!
But there is NO covid-19.

corona is just very simply, THE FLU, for years now!

Expert??? lol


But eh, it can and will be used as a Trojan Horse to bring up the POLICE STATE.
That's the whole goal.

And according to document LOCK STEP we will be in this nonsense for THREE YEARS at least!
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 07:50 am
And still no evidence of COVID-19 in sight!


bring it on if you can!
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Glennn
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:16 am
@Palandre,
Quote:
Sure, because????

Can you tell me?

No, he cannot tell you. When faced with facts, he is programmed to spit out insults. Ignore him; he's fulfilling his role here as a rodeo clown.
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farmerman
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:25 am
@Palandre,
having your head so firmly up your ass certainly makes it difficult to see the world as it is, isnt it?
You actually believe all the , lies, misinformation, and dumb science you spiehl? I cannot believe we have people as stupid as you on this line.
(remember, this asshole is a rank member of the A2K conspiracist brigade wherein the first rule is that NO evidence is required to sustain their idiotic beliefs, The second rule is that, in all other situations, refer back to rule one.)

When you get your head out of your ass perhaps you ill be able to read NEJM , Nature, And Oxford Med(as well as the evidence from the many research and teaching hospitals of the world. I dont wish you any bad luck.I just wish youd wise up a lot more than you read. Otherwise, get some help in your education, because I think , with your present level of understandings , youd be much more comfortable living in Medieval times here much could be ascribed to EVIL SPIRITS.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:31 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Otherwise, get some help in your education, youd be more comfortable living in Medieval times.
But people in the Medieval Age already relied as much on their limited medical knowledge as they relied on astrology and mystic rumours.
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Glennn
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:39 am
@farmerman,
Your post is nothing but an insult. I thought you were going to answer those questions that were put to Fauci in that open letter concerning the use of the inexpensive drug, Hydroxychloroquine.

Here's where we were:

Regarding their statements concerning their success with the Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc/Azithromycin protocol, do you believe that they are being dishonest?

Here are some seemingly pertinent questions posed by the signatories:

Is it true that with regard to Hydroxychloroquine and treatment of COVID-19 infection, you have said repeatedly that “The Overwhelming Evidence of Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate No Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)?”

But NONE of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer were done in the first five to seven days after the onset of symptoms, correct?

All of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer were done on hospitalized patients, correct?

Hospitalized patients are typically sicker that outpatients, correct?

None of the randomized controlled trials to which you refer used the full cocktail consisting of Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin, correct?

While the University of Minnesota study is referred to as disproving the cocktail, the meds were not given within the first five to seven days of illness, the test group was not high risk (death rates were 3 percent), and no zinc was given, correct?

Again, for clarity, the trials upon which you base your opinion regarding the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine, assessed neither the full cocktail (to include Zinc and Azithromycin or doxycycline) nor administered treatment within the first five to seven days of symptoms, nor focused on the high-risk group, correct?

Therefore, you have no basis to conclude that the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail when used early in the outpatient setting, within the first five to seven days of symptoms, in high risk patients, is not effective, correct?

It is thus false and misleading to say that the effective and safe use of hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, and Azithromycin has been “debunked,” correct?

How could it be “debunked” if there is not a single study that contradicts its use?

Should it not be an absolute priority for the NIH and CDC to look at ways to treat Americans with symptomatic COVID-19 infections early to prevent disease progression?
______________________________________________________________________________________________

Now, if you want to be seen as someone who has more than insults under their belt, just start with answering the first question.
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:56 am
@farmerman,
Gee, I only asked for some evidence of an, alleged, virus, and you then come up with this?

Telling, very telling.
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farmerman
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 08:58 am
@Glennn,
I wasn't talking to you and Im really not intereted in the pharmacology of a questioned drug that apparently shows little efficacy in the real medical literature and is mostly where it is because of "Hype".
My comment to the other dickhead was that he is bleating that Novel Cvid-19 doesnt exist, when there is ample evidence in the med literature as to its structure AND GENETICS. JESUS H> CHRIST, how dumb are you guys???
Do you even walk upright.
AS FAR AS INSULTS, I see no reason to believe you guys deserve anything more than my own casual derision. Im sorry you guys are so stupid and ineducable, but hey, thats the way the codons fall.
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 09:15 am
@farmerman,
Why also so rude when people disagree with you?
What you don't seem to understand is that 'science' isn't what you think it is, but I think you don't want to hear that.

Anyway, again I ask, for the proof of an isolated and purified covid-19 virus.

And please don't try personal attacks now. I still think you can do better then that, right?

The ONLY thing you have to do is to show what is asked for.

You can't because there is a deep reason why there is no real covid-19 virus.


farmerman
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 09:21 am
@Palandre,
you dont disagree you try to sound dismissively competent. Ive got more training in genetics and experience in its lab uses that Im amazed at how you are so convinced in believing your "FACT FREE" bullshit. Ill keep insulting because there are many folks here who have a deeper understanding of how bio sciences work.
farmerman
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 09:34 am
@farmerman,
Thhe first paper on isolation, SEQUENCING (not your "purifying" bullshit) wa was on April 1,2020 from a team in Oz that first ISOLATED< SEQUENCED THE GENOME< IMAGED, and then shared the data and E scope and PCR to the rest of the world. It was done on a patient arrived from Wuhan to Melbourne.

heres an abstract.
Quote:
SECTION SPDF PDF TOOLS SHARE
Abstract
Objectives
To describe the first isolation and sequencing of SARS‐CoV‐2 in Australia and rapid sharing of the isolate.

Setting
SARS‐CoV‐2 was isolated from a 58‐year‐old man from Wuhan, China who arrived in Melbourne on 19 January 2020 and was admitted to the Monash Medical Centre, Melbourne from the emergency department on 24 January 2020 with fever, cough, and progressive dyspnoea.

Major outcomes
Clinical course and laboratory features of the first reported case of COVID‐19 (the illness caused by SARS‐CoV‐2) in Australia; isolation, whole genome sequencing, imaging, and rapid sharing of virus from the patient.

Results
A nasopharyngeal swab and sputum collected when the patient presented to hospital were each positive for SARS‐CoV‐2 (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction). Inoculation of Vero/hSLAM cells with material from the nasopharyngeal swab led to the isolation of SARS‐CoV‐2 virus in culture. Electron microscopy of the supernatant confirmed the presence of virus particles with morphology characteristic of viruses of the family Coronaviridae. Whole genome sequencing of the viral isolate and phylogenetic analysis indicated the isolate exhibited greater than 99.99% sequence identity with other publicly available SARS‐CoV‐2 genomes. Within 24 hours of isolation, the first Australian SARS‐CoV‐2 isolate was shared with local and overseas reference laboratories and major North American and European culture collections.

Conclusions
The ability to rapidly identify, propagate, and internationally share our SARS‐CoV‐2 isolate is an important step in collaborative scientific efforts to deal effectively with this international public health emergency by developing better diagnostic procedures, vaccine candidates, and antiviral agents.


The known: By 12 March 2020, 140 cas
If you dont know something and are too lazy to LIU, why not just ASK instead of trying to sound lik some dissmissive religious nut whose making up his credentials on the spot an trying to BLUFF his way through something as serious as this.

DO MORE READING WILL YA?? YOURE MAKING ME ILL WITH YOUR ARROGANT IGNORANCE
Palandre
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 09:38 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
Ive got more training in genetics and experience in its lab uses


EXACTLTY!!!
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Glennn
 
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Mon 17 Aug, 2020 09:50 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
I wasn't talking to you

Yeah, but I'm talking to you. You've made your appeal to authority. Now, in order for that appeal to carry any weight, you're going to have to answer some questions for Fauci since he has yet to do so. We're talking about the studies that were done which uncovered the dangers of Hydroxychloroquine in treating coronavirus. And you were about to answer this question:
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Is it true that, with regard to Hydroxychloroquine and treatment of COVID-19 infection, you (Fauci) have said repeatedly that “The Overwhelming Evidence of Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate No Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)?”
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

So, how about it? Do you concur with Fauci?
 

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