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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 23 May, 2020 01:26 pm
@Setanta,
I had heard that when Hong Kong was turned over to China that even as a commonwealth nation that Canada required at least a quarter million in a bank account to get to enter.
chai2
 
  1  
Sat 23 May, 2020 01:35 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:



We need to find a way


Let's not make this into some insurmountable problem.
As far as I'm concerned, 95% of these "issues" are media invented bullshit.


We need to find a way.
We all need to pull together.
How can we.....?

Put your damn mask on, wash your hands when you come home. Find interesting or productive stuff to do at home.

Problem solved.

If people are loosing it at being quasi confined to the place they paid good money for, and chose to call home, they're going to be no use when the zombies arrive.

But it's haaaaaaard......

No. It's not.


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Setanta
 
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Sat 23 May, 2020 01:44 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Never heard of that--there were already hundreds of thousands of Canadian citizens who were born in HK, or in Canada of HK parents. Do you have a source for that?
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 23 May, 2020 02:07 pm
@Setanta,
I was reading that in the 90's. Let me dust of the wayback machine.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 23 May, 2020 02:27 pm
@Setanta,
https://www.wikihow.com/Immigrate-to-Canada-from-USA

This is current information I found. For a US citizen all that's require is a visa fee and a guarantee of income until a Canadian paycheck will be received

https://www.immigration.ca/how-to-apply-canada-immigration-from-hong-kong

Quebec Investor: 2018 Primary Requirements

Legally acquired personal net worth of $2 million;
Two years of suitable management or business experience within the five years preceding the application;
Investment of $1.2 million into a passive government guaranteed investment for a period of five years bearing no interest;
Intend to settle in the province of Quebec.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 May, 2020 02:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Jan Wong was born in Montréal, I have no idea what, if anything, her family had to pay to settle there. Her parents may already have been citizens when they moved to Québec. She is interesting because she did her undergraduate at Beijing University. She returned to Canada, attended McGill University, and then Columbia University. She went back to China as a foreign correspondent, and was there for the Tienanmen Square massacre. She may be PNG in China now. Her two best known books are Red China Blues about her university days there, and Jan Wong's China: Reports From A Not-So-Foreign Correspondent about her time there as a foreign correspondent. It's entirely possible that her ancestors paid the head tax, and settled in British Columbia, then later moved to Québec. (She wrote more than just those two books.)

https://janwong.ca/images/biopic.jpg

The problems right now are in British Columbia. There are about a quarter of a million Canadians in HK and about a half million ethnic Han in Canada.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 23 May, 2020 06:12 pm
How rich Chinese migrants to British Columbia get away with destination deception

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1612344/how-rich-chinese-migrants-british-columbia-get-away-destination-deception

Applicants state preference for one province, 'change minds' on arrival in another and right to freedom of movement means it's hard to stop them
Ian Young
Ian Young in Vancouver

Published: 10:30pm, 8 Oct, 2014

Immigration experts have described the ease with which thousands of rich arrivals have been deceiving Canadian authorities about the province in which they intend to live, with enforcement of destination pledges being trumped by constitutional rights to freedom of movement.

The scale of deception has been revealed by a South China Morning Post investigation into the troubled Immigrant Investor Programme (IIP), the federal version of which was shut down in June, although Quebec's provincial version continues to operate.

The Post found that 53 per cent of the 29,764 investor immigrants from the mainland, Hong Kong or Taiwan who activated their permanent residency in British Columbia (BC) from 2005 to 2012 did so after telling authorities they would live in a different province. It has cost BC access to more than C$2 billion (HK$14 billion) in no-interest loans, which are made by investor immigrants to Canada and are divided among the provinces according to immigrants' stated destination, not their actual destination.

Vancouver immigration lawyer Peter Larlee said those on all sides of the industry - including government officials - were aware of the deception, although he expressed surprise at the scale.

He said that in addition to missing out on loans from rich immigrants, BC was shouldering costs associated with their settlement without appropriate federal funding. "This second aspect is that the federal government has settlement programmes and those settlement funds for ESL [English as a second language] schooling and grants to aid agencies are based on declared province of destination," he said.

A Canadian immigration expert said investor immigrants were subjected to scrutiny at Vancouver's international immigration checkpoints - particularly if they were granted permanent residency under Quebec's IIP. But this was easy to pass.
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"The scrutiny is that you'll be asked, 'Where is your onward ticket to Montreal? We have an obligation to land you and confirm you are a permanent resident in Canada, but you have indicated Quebec as your destination, you are a Quebec investor. So satisfy us that you maintain that intention to reside in Quebec'," the expert said.

"So the guy says, 'Look, here's my onward ticket, here's the name of my realtor in Montreal', but once [admitted to Canada], he can walk outside the airport, sniff the fresh air in Vancouver and go, 'You know what? I changed my mind'."

The expert said that there was a "fairly well-developed process" by which rich Chinese immigrants would apply to live elsewhere in Canada, but end up living in Vancouver. "Although there are bureaucrats who are concerned about this and are encouraging frontline officers to scrutinise these applicants, everyone knows it happens," he said. "In Quebec, the officials know that it is happening. But they are getting the investment money, and they are getting the settlement funding from the federal government. But they are not getting the bodies."

Larlee said that when weighed against constitutionally guaranteed freedom of movement, it was "very difficult to enforce" a rule that immigrants stick to their stated destination. "Not unless the federal government, upon investigation, realises that they have misrepresented themselves from the outset. But if you or I decide to emigrate to Manitoba and then decide that we don't like it - and that could be after a very short interval - well, constitutionally we have mobility rights. We can live wherever we want in Canada once we are here as permanent residents."

For the purposes of the Post's analysis, "Chinese" were defined as those who lodged their Canadian IIP applications in Beijing, Hong Kong or Taiwan. The vast majority were mainland Chinese who applied in Hong Kong.

The 53 per cent rate of deception is a conservative calculation. It does not take into account an unknown number of immigrants who activated permanent residency in other provinces, but later moved to BC. Overall, this practice is so widespread that 90 per cent of Quebec's investor immigrants live elsewhere in Canada after five years, mostly in BC.

While the BC arrival data differentiates between mainland Chinese and Hongkongers, the approval data does not, so it is not possible to calculate the deception rate among Hongkongers. However, Hongkongers make up only a tiny proportion of 2005-2012 arrivals: 383 compared to 24,265 mainland Chinese. Even if it is assumed all applications approved in Hong Kong and Beijing went to mainlanders, this still represents a minimum deception rate of 60 per cent. Among Taiwanese, the deception rate was only 17 per cent.

Not only have rich Chinese dominated the IIP, making up 81 per cent of all arrivals in BC from 2005 to 2012, they have also been far more likely to practise destination deception. In the same period, there were 7,128 non-Chinese arrivals in BC under the IIP and 6,169 approvals, an apparent deception rate of 13 per cent.

The total 36,892 rich IIP migrants known to have arrived in BC from 2005 to 2012 - almost all settling in Vancouver - probably exceeds the number who moved to the United States in the same period under its comparable EB5 wealth migration scheme. There were 9,520 primary EB5 applicants in those eight years, excluding dependents.

The 77,607 IIP applications to move to BC in that period far outstripped applications to wealth migration schemes of the US, Britain and Australia combined.



Canada's Immigrant Investor Programme has a troubled history

Canada's Immigrant Investor Programme (IIP) had been a favourite means of migration for rich Hongkongers and mainlanders for 28 years.

But the scheme had been under close scrutiny for at least four years, before it was shut down four months ago. At the time, there were 65,000 applicants, most of them Chinese. All have been scrapped.

Critics said those admitted under the scheme failed to adequately contribute, specifically by declaring little taxable income once they arrived. This was despite their having a minimum household wealth of C$1.6 million (HK$11.1 million).

Compared with other schemes, the IIP represented a bargain. By lodging C$800,000 as a five-year, interest-free loan, immigrants were entitled to permanent residence for their household, with the later option of seeking citizenship.

In February, the Post revealed that the Hong Kong consulate had been flooded with applications from rich mainlanders, resulting in a queue of more than 53,000 people as of January 2013.

Attempts by Ottawa in 2010 to tighten access to the visas by doubling the wealth criteria increased Chinese domination of the scheme and in 2011, applications sent to the Hong Kong consulate represented 86 per cent of the worldwide total.

A week after the Post report, the government said it would shut down the scheme, and it did so in June. Quebec's still-operational version of the scheme remains popular with Chinese millionaires.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sat 23 May, 2020 06:15 pm
https://www.canadianimmigration.net/immigration/pnp-british-columbia/


British Columbia PNP

The British Columbia Provincial Nomination Program (BC PNP) is geared towards fast-tracking the Permanent Resident application for experienced or skilled workers, business people as well as their family members who wish to settle in B.C. permanently.

bc
Business Immigration Stream (4 subcategories)

Offers accelerated immigration for qualified and investment-ready entrepreneurs ready to settle in BC, and become permanent residents of Canada. The intentions of the BC PNP Business Immigration categories are to encourage and maintain job creation and sustainability and promote economic growth.
Entrepeneur Category

Must have:

A minimum net worth of CDN $800,000
A minimum ownership of 1/3 of the equity of the business
A business plan to create a minimum of 3 new jobs for Canadian citizens or Permanent Residents
The skills and experience necessary, successful business experience, and an active on-going management role in the business.
A minimum investment of CDN $400,000 to establish and or/expand the eligible business

Regional Entrepeneur Category

Must have:

A business project situated outside the Vancouver and the Abbotsford Metropolitan Areas
A minimum net worth of CDN $400,000
A minimum investment of CDN $200,000 for a qualified business located outside of the Vancouver and the Abbotsford Metropolitan Areas
Ownership of at least 1/3 of the equity of the business
A business plan to create a minimum of 1 new job for a Canadian citizen or Permanent Resident
The necessary skills and experience to maintain an ongoing management role in the business

Strategic Projects Category

Make a minimum equity investment of $500,000.
Create at least three jobs for Canadian citizens or permanent residents in BC
Validate a record of good business practices and successful business operations prior to coming to Canada
Establish/buy and grow a business anywhere in BC
Incorporate a Canadian subsidiary or register an extra-provincial company in BC to operate the proposed business.
Demonstrate that the employees are qualified personnel who are essential to establishing or expanding and operating the proposed business in BC
Sign a Performance Agreement with the Province of British Columbia.

Regional Business Succession Option

This option is available to those who meet the eligibility requirements for one of the 3 Business Immigration Streams.

If applying through the Regional Entrepeneur Category, if the applicant commits to maintaining the equivalent of the full-time workforce of Canadian citizens or permanent residents. There must be at least one full-time employee who fufills these conditions.

If applying throught the Entrepeneur or Strategic Projects categories, the job creation requirements are different. The requirements are reduced by one for each existing job maintained by the workforce comprised of full-time Candian citizens or permanent residents. There must be at least three full-time equivalent employees.
Skills Immigration Stream (6 subcategories)
International Graduate

Have graduated from an accredited Canadian post-secondary institution in the past two years
Have a full-time job offer
The ability to financially support oneself and any dependants
Have or be eligible for legal immigration status in Canada

Entry-Level or Semi-Skilled Worker

Must currently be employed by a BC employer for the past nine consecutive monthhs in one of the following areas: Tourism/Hospitality occupations, trucking occupations, and food processing occupations.
The applicant works within the NOC skill levels C or D
A full-time job offer in British Columbia
Proficiency in English
A minimum of 12 years of education along with any certifications or training related to the field of work
The ability to financially support oneself and any dependents

Skilled worker

Have work experience within the NOC skill levels A, O or B
Have a full-time job offer
Have or be eligible for immigration status in Canada
The ability to financially support oneself and any dependents

International Post-Graduates

International students who have obtained masters or doctorate degrees in the natural, applied or health sciences from eligible, recognized BC institutions within the last two years may apply even if they have not obtained a job offer from a BC employer.
Evidence that the applicant intends to reside in British Columbia
Have or be eligible for immigration status in Canada

A health care professional

Mainly physicians, registered nurses and registered psychiatric nurses, and midwives
Have a full-time job offer or have been sponsored by an individual in this category

Northeast Pilot Project

Meet the requirements for the entry-level and semi-skilled worker category
Be a temporary foreign worker working in the Northeast of BC within the NOC skill levels C and D

Note: Applications are open until April 4, 2014. Individuals who have a work permit under the Federal Live-In Caregiver program are ineligible.
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Olivier5
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 02:39 am
China Declares Victory Over Both the Coronavirus and Critics
By Barbara Demick, the New Yorker, May 22, 2020
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/china-declares-victory-over-both-the-coronavirus-and-critics-of-the-communist-party-at-the-biggest-political-event-of-the-year



farmerman
 
  3  
Sun 24 May, 2020 06:16 am
@Olivier5,
At the current level of infection, China has merely changed the word "pandemic" to "endemic".
Amazing what we can do with words.

Trump is trying to do the same thing.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 24 May, 2020 06:43 am
@farmerman,
But he was hard at work thinking about it on a golf course this weekend. Pandemic>endemic>picnic>tictac. It'll look good on a cheaply made $30.00 gimme cap. Hamburters for everyone!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 07:39 am
Second hairstylist with COVID-19 may have exposed 56 clients, Missouri officials say

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242962271.html

By Summer Lin and

Chacour Koop
May 23, 2020 05:55 PM , Updated May 23, 2020 06:23 PM

Two hairstylists with COVID-19 served 140 clients, Missouri health department says

A hairstylist working at a Great Clips salon in Springfield, Missouri, with coronavirus exposed 84 clients, health officials say. The health department announced May 23 a second stylist who tested positive exposed 56 clients.

A hairstylist working at a Great Clips salon in Springfield, Missouri, with coronavirus exposed 84 clients, health officials say. The health department announced May 23 a second stylist who tested positive exposed 56 clients. By Springfield-Greene County Health Department

A second hairdresser working at Great Clips in Springfield, Missouri, has tested positive for COVID-19 and has potentially exposed the virus to clients, Missouri health officials said.

The Springfield-Greene County Health Department said on Saturday that a second stylist tested positive for the coronavirus and worked from May 16 to May 20 while having “very mild symptoms” but was “potentially infectious,” according to a press release.

“At this time, this is the only other positive result we have had from those tested as a result of the previous exposure,” the department wrote in the release.

The stylist potentially exposed 56 clients and all those involved were wearing face coverings, according to the department. The clients will be alerted by the Health Department and offered COVID-19 testing, according to the release.


A Great Clips hairdresser at the same location tested positive, served 84 clients, and exposed seven co-workers, the department announced Friday, according to McClatchy News. The first stylist also went to a Walmart, Dairy Queen, and a fitness center, according to officials.

Missouri leaders allowed salons and barber shops to reopen May 4.

The Great Clips franchise owners told McClatchy News on Friday that the location is closed for sanitization and “deep cleaning” adhering to guidelines by the CDC and the county health department.

“The well-being of Great Clips customers and stylists in the salon is our top priority and proper sanitization has always been an important cosmetology industry practice for Great Clips salons,” the owners said.

Springfield-Greene County Health Department Director Clay Goddard said Great Clips was safe for customers during a news conference on Friday.

“We are hopeful that their strictly-enforced policy of masking will prevent any future spread from this case. They also kept detailed records that have made contact tracing a speedy process,” Goddard said.

There were 682 confirmed deaths from COVID-19 in Missouri as of May 23, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. More than 96,000 people have died in the U.S.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242962271.html#storylink=cpy
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 24 May, 2020 09:25 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Meanwhile, there have been more than 50 incidents nationwide in the UK, linked to the false claims that the 5G network is spreading coronavirus. (This afternoon again a 5G mobile phone mast was torched)
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sun 24 May, 2020 09:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Hard to believe there's American style wackos in the UK, too.
ehBeth
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 10:59 am
@Olivier5,
Interesting. A dance friend moved to China about 6 years ago to teach at a university. She posted yesterday that the guards who monitored activity reappeared on Friday, setting up their posts. They are expecting to hear that lockdowns and monitoring will be restarting on Monday. She and her colleagues believe that another wave has started but is not being fully reported.
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ehBeth
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 11:01 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

A hairstylist worked while symptomatic and exposed 91 people to coronavirus


100% to be expected.

Can't imagine anyone thinking this was appropriate yet.
ehBeth
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 11:05 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

https://www.wikihow.com/Immigrate-to-Canada-from-USA

This is current information I found. For a US citizen all that's require is a visa fee and a guarantee of income until a Canadian paycheck will be received



hahahaha

there's an 80+ page application form and unless you've got a $$$ sponsor, you need $$$

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ehBeth
 
  2  
Sun 24 May, 2020 11:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
yup. we're going to be hearing about more of these. trim your hair, clip it up.

maybe if you can find a barber who can set up outdoors, stay masked and gloved? activities happening inside with non-household members or within the 6 - 12 foot (now they're talking 20 feet is actually better) recommended spacing are getting the buzzer from me
Olivier5
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 12:42 pm
@ehBeth,
Italy is reopening. Foreign tourists will be allowed to fly in from EU countries from the 3rd of June. Anyone interested?
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Sturgis
 
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Sun 24 May, 2020 12:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Hard to believe there's American style wackos in the UK too.

Wackodumbity doesn't care or pay attention to borders.
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