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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 29 Mar, 2023 04:38 am
@Builder,
The effect of his proselytizing on other people should be considered, not just what he did to himself.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Wed 29 Mar, 2023 10:36 am
@hightor,
Karma's a bitch.

One less bloody idiot bringing down the collective IQ.
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Builder
 
  -4  
Wed 29 Mar, 2023 03:04 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
.... not just what he did to himself.


Again, you're avoiding the elephant in the room. Ivermectin played no part in his untimely death. He had Lyme disease. Big pharma has no answers for that, just like they have no answers for C19. Experimental injections they pushed, and they wanted no other form of medication, not even the award-winning ivermectin.

I wouldn't recommend it every day, like he did, but it certainly helped us with long covid symptoms. Something my heart specialist couldn't do.

Quote:
The effect of his proselytizing on other people should be
considered


It's a free country. People can make their own decisions, unlike the illegal mandating of an experimental genetic messenger injection. Many people had no option, other than taking it, or losing their careers. Now we're seeing SADS cases up 16%, and there's no denying the stats on that.

Here in Australia, SADS cases were (in 2019) at 1.6% of all deaths, and slowly falling. Now, we're seeing healthy athletic types falling over in the field of play. Good thing the corporate media is still on side with big pharma, hey?

Can just keep sweeping it under the rug, and focus more on other divisive topics.
Mame
 
  5  
Wed 29 Mar, 2023 05:00 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

He had Lyme disease. Big pharma has no answers for that...


Oral antibiotics can clear up Lyme disease. One of my library patrons had it. She had some nasty long-term health problems for several years, but she's alive.
Builder
 
  -4  
Wed 29 Mar, 2023 06:50 pm
@Mame,
Quote:
Oral antibiotics can clear up Lyme disease


Not in all cases, and we don't know that was his actual cause of death. We do know that it wasn't a daily dose of ivermectin. I was pointing that out to another contributor here. Prolonged use of antibiotics is also not good for our overall natural immunity, and that is creating a whole set of other problems for health professionals.

Quote:
.....the CDC refers to this condition as post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (PTLDS).8

"As with many other kinds of infectious diseases, some people are left with some debilitating symptoms that don't go away," Dr. Kuritzkes said. "I like to compare it to polio: Some people who had polio are left paralyzed, but that doesn't mean they have chronic polio; they have permanent damage from the infection, even after it's gone away.

"It's possible that Lyme infection leads to some damage that we don't fully understand yet," Dr. Kuritzkes added. "But we do know that long-term or repeated courses of antibiotics have no benefit in these cases."

Be wary of healthcare professionals who call themselves "Lyme literate" and recommend ongoing antibiotics or other unproven treatments, Dr. Kuritzkes added, since these techniques are not backed up by science and can sometimes be harmful.


source

An Aussie friend has been very ill with Lyme disease, and our AMA is largely in denial of the problem here.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Thu 30 Mar, 2023 12:02 am
@Mame,
They are too far down the rabbit hole.

They will embrace any lie to maintain their delusion.
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Builder
 
  -4  
Thu 30 Mar, 2023 01:05 am
Secretary of State Antony Blinken, spinning and fidgeting under questioning
at the Senate foreign relations committee hearing.

Read the comments section.

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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Thu 30 Mar, 2023 06:14 am
@Builder,
"By all accounts".

BULLSHIT!!!!!
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 08:21 am
@Builder,
I posted here during your fantasy of my death, sent PMs, posted several times, particularly on the cartoon thread.

You've never posted a cogent argument in your life, why should I have to offer you that courtesy?

You posted a bald faced lie that's been documented false here by plenty of others, it doesn't need another debunking; it barely deserves acknowledgement.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 08:39 am
@bobsal u1553115,
He seems to grasp every conspiracy theory imaginable.

Willful gullibility.
Mame
 
  3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 09:47 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:


An Aussie friend has been very ill with Lyme disease, and our AMA is largely in denial of the problem here.


The patron had to go to the USA to get treatment because the doctors here knew next to nothing about it at the time and were in denial it even existed. It cost her a lot of money to get cured. It would have been free in Canada if the bloody physicians had done some homework.
Builder
 
  -3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 05:46 pm
@Mame,
I wonder why there's this hesitancy to acknowledge that it's a problem.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:03 pm
@izzythepush,
For a guy who barely links his crap and uses wooooooo sources when he does, he's a demanding little twit.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:05 pm
@Mame,
Ironic. He denies Covid and believes in Lyme. Lyme is real, as is Covid.
Mame
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:05 pm
@Builder,
I have no idea. Another colleague of mine had eye cancer, which the Cdn doctors didn't diagnose, so being as he was American, he paid to get a diagnosis and treatment in the US. He later died of it unnecessarily.

Still makes me ill.

I had a burst appendix a year ago (had a WBC count of 20), went to my local ER, was admitted but not seen by a physician and after 3 hrs of waiting, finally discharged myself to go to another centre. There, they did a CT scan, diagnosed me, and had me admitted to the surgery unit at that same local hospital an hour later, all in under 2 hours.

What's the problem? I don't know. I don't know if it was that particular triage team at the ER or what. My doctor was confounded when I told him.

I don't think the Canadian system is as good as it was, obviously. Today, my husband booked online for a lab test and has to wait 2 months, for Pete's sake, for a condition that has since gone away. What's the good of that?? Last month, I booked a lab appt - it was a month out - his was twice as long.

Another friend recently fractured the inside of her elbow and spent 11 hours at a walk-in clinic, x-ray clinic, and finally a hospital to get her full treatment. I took her to the clinic at 10:00 a.m. and she finally got home at 9:00 p.m. They did nothing at the end of it - no sling, no nothing. Waste of bloody time.

Part of the problem is that doctors here no longer do anything but diagnose and refer. My husband was to go to the lab to get an aspiration of his leg - something doctors here did in office years ago. What's so hard about drawing a sample of a fluid that family docs can't/won't do anymore? That would save him 2 months for a diagnosis. Ridiculous.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:09 pm
@Mame,
Hopefully, you are describing an exception and not something systematic.

Service from my socialistic medical provider, one of the largest systems in the world - the Veterans Administration - is excellent.

My only complaint is that this kind of treatment/service is not available to everyone.

Mame
 
  2  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:12 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Waiting 2.5 - 5 years or more for a knee replacement? Not unusual. I can't tell you how many ppl have gone abroad (or even other parts of Canada) and paid tens of thousands for knee/hip replacements.

Today in our paper there was an article about our next province over sending their patients to private clinics here for same. Also, our own government is paying them for providing this service. Pretty sad.

And good luck getting a good response time for an MRI or any other procedure.
Mame
 
  3  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Well, I gave you four examples... you decide if it's systemic or not. And those were all within one year.

Not to mention that last year another friend had a bout of appendicitis, was admitted to hospital, had it removed, was recovering fine, then spent two months on oxygen because of a respiratory infection she caught in the damn hospital.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Fri 31 Mar, 2023 06:32 pm
@Mame,
Shocked and shocking. I get my CAT/MRI/X-ray almost always the day my primary care physician orders them. The two major surgeries I've had in the last six years were performed several weeks to a month after the visit that determined they were required. Referral appointments to specialists have always been within two weeks. Without VA I would have 'checked out' several years ago.
 

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