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hightor
 
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Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:57 am
@Glennn,
No, the "science" hasn't changed. Read up on the process known as the "scientific method" and you'll discover that the "science" is the same as it's always been.
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Glennn
 
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Thu 12 Jan, 2023 10:59 am
@hightor,
Make a decision. Was it tony and the CDC who were spreading disinformation, or was it the writer of your article. You have to pick one or the other since they contradict each other.
hightor
 
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Thu 12 Jan, 2023 11:09 am
@Glennn,
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Make a decision.

I did.

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You have to pick one or the other since they contradict each other.

That's where you're wrong. I don't "have to" pick anything. I told you before that I am not interested in your question and don't intend to respond to continued interrogation on the subject. I thought you'd have deduced that by now. The only reason I address your posts at all is to critique the thought process you exhibit and the rhetorical style you employ. Like saying, "the science has changed."
Glennn
 
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Thu 12 Jan, 2023 11:26 am
@hightor,
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Like saying, "the science has changed."

I didn't say the science has changed. I said that tony and the CDC contradict your copy and paste stuff. I'm only asking how you reconcile those two opposing views. Well, actually it's your article stuff versus tony and the CDC. So I'll assume you haven't decided who's being dishonest yet. But one thing we know for sure is that they both can't be right.
Builder
 
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Thu 12 Jan, 2023 03:09 pm
@Glennn,

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I didn't say the science has changed.


Had to laugh when pfizzer's rep said they "have to work at the speed of science" to explain the lies about no testing for transmission. Yet they expect us to believe they can create new "boosters" for new strains in weeks, while still claiming the "safe and effective" mantra can be maintained. They somehow base that claim on their other products being "safe and effective" when they tried their best to hide their data on adverse events and hundreds of deaths, from literally everyone, for seventy-five years.
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Builder
 
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Sat 14 Jan, 2023 03:22 am
It's like you folks just don't want to know how badly you got screwed over,
not just by your supposed protectors in your own government,
but more so by a corporate entity entrusted with your health.

This is why we're calling it a cull; they knew what they hid from you all.

They know what's coming. It's not a secret for them.
Glennn
 
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Sat 14 Jan, 2023 08:43 am
@Builder,
Yeah, you can show them a video of their trusted authority figure telling a guy that a PCR-test with a cycle threshold of anything over 35 is pretty stupid, and their takeaway from that clear statement is that--get this--a cycle-threshold of 40 is pretty smart. They must necessarily believe that some mystical dynamic of language somehow comes into play and changes "meaningless" to "meaningful." But if you ask them to show you where they learned such a thing, they just . . . can't recall. They just insist on praising the guy who didn't speak up when labs around the world were using a cycle-threshold that the guy himself said will give nothing but meaningless results. Drunk

Furthermore, they've had four or five experimental injections that do not prevent them from becoming infected or transmitting the virus, but they won't feel safe unless you and I also partake of the experimental injection that does not prevent infection or transmission. That's their story and they're sticking to it, and they interpret any questions concerning the sanity of such a mindset as bullying. Seems they're trying to come up with a way to keep the facts at bay, and they've settled on calling the messenger a bully.
Builder
 
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Sat 14 Jan, 2023 06:15 pm
@Glennn,
I remember seeing these very long lines of people, awaiting their PCR test. Told by the "health" authorities that even if your symptoms are mild (sniffles or scratchy throat) go and get tested.

Can't have a pandemic without the numbers, folks, and it can't be the flu, because that disappeared when C19 turned up.

So go get tested, even though the test is basically meaningless, but an excellent way for the sellers of the test to make billions in profits.

Also a great way to spread the bug, by getting all you strangers to mingle in public.

hightor
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 10:04 am
How your first brush with COVID warps your immunity
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Glennn
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 10:39 am
@Builder,
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So go get tested, even though the test is basically meaningless
There is no rationale for taking a test that doesn't tell you whether or not you have what you're being tested for. I guess that's why the people here don't offer one. Kinda weird to see everyone talking past that deception as if they've never heard it. But here we are, and there they are.

Anybody want to explain the wisdom of taking a test that won't tell you what you want to know?
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hightor
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 12:35 pm
Breathing Life Back into COVID Prevention

Taking the fight to pathogens like the coronavirus will require a multi-pronged strategy to improve air quality in indoor public and private spaces. And though this method of prevention will require new investments, the costs will pale in comparison to those associated with chronic reinfection and poor public health.

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FAIRFIELD COUNTY, CONNECTICUT – After three long years, the pandemic shows no signs of slowing down. Unfortunately, public resistance and fatigue toward COVID-19 interventions and restrictions are at an all-time high. Even China, which was once considered a leader in virus control, has rapidly dispensed with most mitigation strategies.

But make no mistake: COVID-19 still poses a clear and present danger. Research shows that two or more COVID-19 re-infections doubles the risk for death, blood clots, and lung damage, among other negative health outcomes. The risk of cardiovascular events has been found to increase by 4.5% up to 12 months after infection, regardless of age, race, sex, obesity, smoking, or other factors. Moreover, the latest waves of infection are being fueled by new variants that evade immunity from both vaccination and previous infections.
The good news is that we still have powerful prevention tools at our disposal. In fact, there is one widely underused strategy that doesn’t require behavioral change or restrictions, that can be used just about anywhere, and that would also help protect us against other airborne viruses, such as RSV and influenza. It requires investing much more in basic measures such as ventilation, air filtration, and ultraviolet germicidal light, and accelerating the exploration of newer discoveries, such as the potential use of aerosol acidity levels to inactivate certain airborne viruses. Vaccines are highly effective in reducing the risk of death and serious illness, but they are generally not as effective in preventing transmission. Mask-wearing has become so highly politicized and stigmatized in many Western countries that even some health-care workers are neglecting to wear them. Yet aerosols carrying viruses can linger for hours in the air after they have been exhaled, making it difficult to judge what counts as a high-risk situation. Given all these factors, the best way to reduce the risk of transmission is to decrease the concentration of airborne viruses that are available to be inhaled in the first place. We need to challenge the prevailing attitude that treats the spread of airborne pathogens in indoor spaces as an inevitable part of daily life. Unlike our ancestors, we spend almost 90% of our time indoors. For decades, governments around the world have invested heavily in food safety, sanitation, and clean drinking water – all in the name of protecting public health. In developed countries, food and waterborne disease have largely been eliminated through a combination of research, legislation, the development of authoritative public-health agencies, and infrastructure funding. Why shouldn’t we give the same priority to achieving clean, pathogen-free air in public and private spaces? Taking the fight to pathogens before they can infect us will require a multi-pronged strategy. Professional engineering bodies need to develop comprehensive ventilation standards, and new measures will be needed to ensure that these standards are met. That means establishing regulatory bodies to oversee monitoring and enforcement, not just for new construction but also in the retrofitting of existing buildings. To that end, governments should help to provide specialized training for building operators and owners. The goal for all buildings should be to recirculate the air supply of occupied spaces at a rate of at least six air changes per hour.

This may sound like an enormous task. But improvements can be rolled out gradually, and strategically, across different sectors. The immediate priority is to ensure pathogen-free air in hospitals and health-care settings, to protect vulnerable patients, and in airplanes, to stop the rapid spread of new variants around the world.

After that, our focus should shift to public transportation, including trains and buses, and then to offices, schools, and daycare facilities. In addition to preventing viral transmission, better-ventilated areas have been shown to improve children’s cognitive performance and reduce illness-related absenteeism. Finally, we should address ventilation in individual homes and residential buildings. Critics of such proposals will cite the up-front cost as a barrier. Yet even an average flu season is known to cost the United States $11.2 billion, owing to the resulting absenteeism and reductions in productivity. According to an August 2022 Brookings Institution report, long COVID may be “keeping as many as four million people out of work” in the US, at an annual cost of $170-230 billion per year in lost wages. Having a workforce that is repeatedly getting sick means that we are accepting continued disruptions across all industries. But this is unsustainable. Parents are already exhausted and overwhelmed by the “tripledemic” (influenza, RSV, and COVID-19) that has been tearing through schools and daycares. Beyond the direct financial costs, the trauma and turmoil inflicted by the pandemic make it clear that investing in pathogen-free indoor air is not only the most economically sound option but also the most ethical one. Like other effective investments in public health, this one would soon pay for itself.

ps
Builder
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 03:01 pm
Last year in the UK there were nearly 40,000 excess deaths – that is, deaths above a five-year average. That’s nearly as many as were killed by the Luftwaffe in the blitz. In the last two weeks of 2022, deaths were a fifth higher than the average from 2016 to 2019 (the last pre-pandemic year), and that’s taking into account factors such as a bigger, ageing population.

According to the Office for National Statistics, there have been about 170,000 excess deaths in England and Wales since the pandemic began. Most of these can be directly attributed to Covid-19 itself: after all, the virus’s name is scrawled on the death certificates of more than 212,000 UK citizens. Some of those who died may have been vulnerable or infirm, but in other circumstances years away from death. As the pandemic waned, we could have expected excess deaths to shift to below average levels over time. This has not happened.

source
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Glennn
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 03:23 pm
@hightor,
From your article:
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Moreover, the latest waves of infection are being fueled by new variants that evade immunity from both vaccination

They evade immunity for the same reason the "original" evaded immunity; the experimental injection was never shown to prevent infection. So, that statement qualifies as misinformation because it implies that the "original" covid did not evade immunity when it obviously did. If you need further convincing, why don't you go run find out what the manufacturers of the experimental injection have stated about its capacity as an immunizer! You need to hear what they've said so that you don't go posting information to the contrary anymore.
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Vaccines are highly effective in reducing the risk of death and serious illness,

Again, that would be called a treatment, not a vaccine. You've needed 4 or 5 of them so far, and so far you show no signs of understanding that you're still just as worried about covid as you were before your first injection. Now, since it doesn't prevent you from becoming infected or transmitting the virus, exactly why are you so obsessed with the idea that everyone needs one--er, five-- so that they can be (get this) protected.

As far as the claim that it reduces the risk of death and serious illness, that's right along the same lines as the tribal witchdoctor looking at the village devastated by the storm and saying to the villagers, "Can you imagine how bad it would have been had we not thrown the virgin into the volcano?"

What study was cited in your article's claim that the experimental injection is highly effective in reducing the risk of death and serious illness? I just want to make sure that the author of the article you posted backed up that statement with something instead of just parroting what he had heard.

Builder
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 03:34 pm
@Glennn,
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"Can you imagine how bad it would have been had we not thrown the virgin into the volcano?"


Yes, the fact is, you can still die from C19, but it would have been much worse, if you weren't up-to-date with the boosters. Maybe we need to compile a list of the inanities and complete BS stories, that they've fed the gullible?

As I've stated elsewhere, I reckon the "safe and effective" line has likely already been trade-marked, so that when the SHTF, they can just state that it's a marketing ploy, and not "science-based", because they were forced to "work at the speed of science", and were just trying to save as many souls as possible, due to the impact of the virus on the population. We won't mention that the same numbers usually dying of influenza, got counted as C19 deaths.

We also won't mention the insane profits involved, and the fact they were given carte blanche to alter the ingredients in the injections, without any oversight, while being granted (for the first time in medical history) complete immunity from prosecution, should (when) deaths and "adverse events" occur.

Glennn
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 03:47 pm
@Builder,
The part that really puzzles me is how anyone could listen to tony and company after they said that the experimental injection gives you immunity and blocks the virus. tony knew it didn't, or if he didn't know, he sure should have.

People expect so little from their modern day "heroes."
Builder
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 04:12 pm
@Glennn,
From a legal standpoint, who would you point the finger at? Doctors were literally forced to carry the lie, and turn a blind eye. Political figures, right up the president, PMs et al, carried the lie, and various popular actors and paid hacks pushed it, as well.

Fauci would just point at someone either beneath, or above him.

It's the emails he shared with colleagues that will eventually be his undoing.
Glennn
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 08:16 pm
@Builder,
Just ask tony why he and joe were telling the public that they can't get covid if they get the experimental injection. Tony made it clear that it's a roadblock to the virus. I thought that out and out lies like that would raise the ire of people, but it seems a lot of them are immune to hard feelings.

But in court . . .
Builder
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 08:22 pm
@Glennn,
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But in court . . .


By all appearances the US court system appears to be as corrupted and partisan as the political arena.

We'll likely have to await an international tribunal that's not a front for the UN, or the WHO,
because they are clearly compromised as well.
Glennn
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 08:35 pm
@Builder,
They're all captured agencies, bought and paid for by loving philanthropists you can trust your heart to because they're richer than god!
Builder
 
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Wed 18 Jan, 2023 09:40 pm
@Glennn,
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....paid for by loving philanthropists....


Speaking of those types; have they let Willy Gaytes out of his box again?

He was quite gleeful about telling the plebs that there's a much worse virus "on the way".

Never was much good at keeping a secret.

Once said that vack scenes were the best investment he'd ever made.
 

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