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Glennn
 
  -2  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 11:04 am
@hightor,
Thought you were going to provide the proper context to "meaningless results" from a cycle-threshold of anything over 35.

You can't claim improper context without providing the proper context. Otherwise, you're just guessing. At least offer what you think he was really saying about a cycle-threshold of 40!

OFFER SOMETHING!

Do you honestly think tony meant that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 will give meaningful results? Do you think that tony is so supersmart that you just don't have what it takes to interpret his message when he made clear that meaningless results would follow such a cycle-threshold setting?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 11:36 am
@Glennn,
As a specialist in laboratory medicine, Glenn, you certainly can better explain than anyone else here all your different experiences of PCR-analytics.
Ragman
 
  3  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 12:25 pm
@glitterbag,
Passing get well wishes to all. ‘Tis thanks season to not be wheezin’!
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Glennn
 
  0  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 01:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
What are you talking about? I brought you direct quotes from the FDA, the CDC, tony, and a host of other professionals. So, contrary to what you'd like to believe, it's not my expertise that I'm bringing to the table here; it's the expertise of the people and agencies you seem to believe in; that is, until they say something you don't care to hear.

That's when you and others hopelessly try to push the idea that something strange happens to words when coming from the lips of medical authorities. And by virtue of this ridiculous idea about language, you believe that tony and company meant the opposite of what they clearly stated. Correct?

Can you come up with even one other way to interpret what tony and others have said about a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 spitting out meaningless results? Obviously not, or you surely would have come up with it by now. Nevertheless, you should at least take a stab at it.

So, what did they really mean?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 4 Jan, 2023 01:25 pm
The Omikron sub-variant XBB.1.5 is spreading at high speed in the USA and Europe. It does not appear to be more dangerous than previous variants - but the high number of infections could lead to problems.
The variant is characterised by the mutation F486P in the so-called spike protein. (That's the part of the virus with which it binds to human cells.)
Builder
 
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Wed 4 Jan, 2023 04:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The variant is characterised by the mutation F486P in the so-called spike protein.


And it's the spike protein that is the key ingredient in the injections.

Again, the public is being used to test new product, which is literally unprecedented in the history of medicine.

Money talks, and BS walks.

Will we ever get legitimate scientific research,
when so much profit is on the table?
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 04:46 pm
Thanks to Builder we know mice are really fish.
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oralloy
 
  2  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 05:43 pm
@oralloy,
What a day!

I started off with blistering heartburn sometime after 6AM. Despite taking 2 Pepcid Completes it only got worse and worse.

Around 8AM I decided that it was bad enough that I had best call 911 just in case it was a heart attack.

At the hospital, my first clue that I was probably in trouble was the doctor’s reaction to my EKG. He swore and then sprinted into the hallway yelling orders for a bunch of medical stuff, including a crash cart.

It was already obvious at this point, but a few minutes later he told me that I was suffering a major heart attack. They gave me a combination of fentanyl, blood thinner (heparin I think), and some kind of clotbuster medicine, and sent me by ambulance to a city hospital.

That ambulance ride was particularly harrowing. I was on a stretcher thingy, and the double doors in the back of the ambulance were right at my feet. Every time it accelerated I felt like momentum was about to eject me out of the back of the ambulance. Considering that they were easily going in excess of 90MPH, getting dumped out into traffic would not have been a good thing. And it was about an hour of driving like that before I got to the city hospital. The ambulance people kept giving me more and more morphine to try to numb the pain exploding in my chest though and eventually it mellowed me out a bit.

The worst part was after they were done with the procedure (I received 2 stents whatever that means). It was after 1PM by then and I had not had a chance to pee since around 4AM. My bladder was exploding. They insisted that I was too weak to sit up so had to pee directly into a bottle while lying in bed. But I couldn’t will myself to do that. It was another hour before they would let me sit on the side of the bed and pee down into a bottle. It was the most agonizing hour of my life. At one point they offered to put a catheter in me but they were apparently bluffing because they dropped the offer when I instantly agreed.

Anyway I’m now spending 24 hours in ICU in a huge hospital in a city and posting this on my phone. Autocorrect keeps inserting the wrong words, so any unintelligible sentences are not my doing.
Glennn
 
  1  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 05:49 pm
@oralloy,
I'm sorry to hear that.

No unintelligible sentences.

I hope you have family to help you along.
jespah
 
  1  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 07:03 pm
@oralloy,
Dang.

Get some rest.
roger
 
  1  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 07:40 pm
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

Dang.

Get some rest.

Yeah! And good luck
Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 10:12 pm
@Glennn,
Quote:
I hope you have family to help you along.


He's had every possible experimental injection, and wants more.

oralloy
 
  2  
Wed 4 Jan, 2023 11:54 pm
@Builder,
Indeed I do.

It is unlikely that this was triggered by my covid shot, but they resist giving pneumonia shots to healthy adults because of side effects, and this was my second unauthorized pneumonia shot.

It probably saved my life though. The pneumonia shot didn’t cause my underlying condition. It only would have triggered it (if it did).

Had I waited until my underlying condition was even worse before having my heart attack, my odds would be poorer.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 5 Jan, 2023 12:00 am
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:
No unintelligible sentences.

Yes but I am having to backtrack and change my words back over and over again. It’s getting harder to resist throwing my phone across the room. And sooner or later one will slip through. It happened last time I posted a lot from my phone.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 12:04 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
Dang.
Get some rest.

Thanks. I actually just woke up feeling like it is morning, but according to my phone it is only midnight.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 12:18 am
@roger,
roger wrote:
Yeah! And good luck

I’d actually been planning on playing World of Warcraft a lot over the next few days.

I hope I’m home in time to raid Omen.

I’m still used to thinking of myself as a young person. The idea that I’ve just had a major heart attack still seems surreal.
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cherrie
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 02:13 am
@oralloy,
This isn't good. I hope you're feeling better and up and about soon.
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hightor
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 04:28 am
@oralloy,
Yikes! Hope you're feeling better and that you make a good recovery.
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Ragman
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 04:39 am
@oralloy,
Sorry to read this story. Hope your recovery is speedy, steady and uneventful. You’ve provided us a valuable glimpse into just what it’s like to survive a life threatening ‘cardiac event’ including the ambulance ride through an urban center to an ER.

This is far beyond sobering. This sort of event will pale in comparison with any future New Years. May you have many more and all at a more pedestrian level.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 5 Jan, 2023 06:57 am
Echoing what everyone else said about Oralloy. We don't get on but I wouldn't wish that on him and hope he gets better soon.

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