Why the Female Doctor Who is a flop.

The current season is being written as a replacement for civics class.

It is failing at storytelling (something at which the series has often excelled). That is the point of this thread.

I have no stake in Dr. Who. It has it's place in Sci-Fi like Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, etc. They have all been preachy at one time or another.

I don't think Dr. Who has ever had the reputation of having amazing writing though. I think that is part of its schtick.

I strongly disagree.

And why would that be a bad thing?

I'm talking ****. There is a flea market I go to in the same neck of the woods. It's even called a Flea Market. I'm going there with my mate a week Sunday.

It's a lot bigger than the car boot. It costs a lot more to get in and is full of serious people as opposed to someone downsizing for a move or getting rid of their parents stuff. Also you don't get cheap grocery items, like food close to sell by dates.

http://www.sheptonflea.com/

Because facts matter ( and the red ribbon goes to you for letting me make that point).

If Doctor Who is going to make a claim to be socially relevant then they had damned well better be responsible in getting their socially relevant facts right. If they aren't making this claim... then they have no excuse for such dismally poor writing.

Doctor Who is not a factual programme, it's not set on this Earth.

Your reasoning is pretty bankrupt, you get very angry at the suggestion that the environmental problems facing the planet might be exaggerated, whilst being completely happy with the ostrich like behaviour and outright denial of your president.

You can't point out any real problems with people acting if global warming is exaggerated but I can give you a big list about the problems caused by denial: Icecaps melting, fish/coral dying, desertification, loss of arable land, starvation and war, just to name a few off the top of my head.

You are so full of it.

I've seen the first three seasons. I missed the beginning of the fourth season when it came out, so haven't seen that (or any subsequent seasons, if there are any). It's on my long-range to-do list.

I like the obvious Narnia influences.

Well... they kind of rip apart Narnia... turning C.S. Lewis into a pedophile was a little harsh.

I didn't see it as being Narnia. I saw it more as being inspired by Narnia. But I haven't really given this a lot of thought.

It seems to me though that while the Narnia similarities are pretty blatant, they have also departed pretty significantly from the Narnia universe. They didn't just take Narnia and slap a different name on it.

I grew up loving Narnia. They very clearly had Narnia in mind. The first scene with ghosts where they realize that the author was a pedophile made me cringe.

That being said, the characters are very well written.

Yet you know nothing of it. Try educating yourself for once.



Sorry, forget that, it's a serious academic study. I was forgetting how much you struggled with Shakespeare, it will shoot right over your head. You'll get stuck asking why the Sun and Moon are planets and Earth is not, unable to progress any further.

You are adorable Izzy. Have a Jelly Baby.

And you're starting to sound like Oralloy.

Have a word with yourself.

Having featured two stand out seasons from Troughton and Pertwee, I thought I'd do the same with Tom Baker. It's not as easy as I thought. The first season threw out all the stops with UNIT, Sontarans, Daleks and the first appearance of the Cybermen since Troughton. It also introduced Davros in the episode voted Number 1 by readers of Dr Who magazine.

Unfortunately they'd used up all their good cards, having said that the next season was pretty good. The Seeds of Death and Pyramids of Mars were exceptional but after that, and with the departure of Sarah Jane Smith things went into a bit of a decline.

The last really good Tom Baker adventure was The Talons of Weng Chiang, after that the writing did drop off.

I don't know how Max can slag off the current writing and wax lyrical about all of Tom Baker's episodes. Season 16 which featured Mary Tamm as the first incarnation of Romana was pretty dire, The Androids of Tara being particularly bad.

The current writers are significantly better than those the wrote that season, or any of the episodes with Colin Baker while we're at it.

Actually The Pirate Planet was a good episode but only because it was written by Douglas Adams.

The rest were all a bit cheesy, Androids of Tara being a prime example of lazy writing, ripped off from The Prisoner of Zenda.

I have yet to see a poll, in the UK or in the States, that doesn't put Tom Baker ahead of Troughton. The ratings under Tom Baker soared.

My daughter claims that Matt Smith is a better Doctor than Tom Baker. She is mistaken, of course, but I still love her.

That's no answer, it's populism. It was a poorly written season and all you have are polls.

Talking to you is just like talking to Oralloy, you don't/can't understand where you're wrong so you keep repeating yourself ad nauseam.

I responded to what you said about bad writing. Your response was irrelevant, but shows you don't understand simple questions, like Oralloy.

To address your nonsensical point. Polls mean nothing, Tom Baker's popularity has more to do with the number of episodes he was in, the use of colour and the fact that so many Troughton/Hartnell episodes were wiped.

I have said this quite a few times but you're incapable of understanding.

Matt Smith based his Doctor on Troughton. Your daughter has some sense even if you don't.

Because that's when it was sold to America.

You cannot provide any examples of me being wrong.

You cannot provide any examples of me failing to understand something.

You cannot provide any examples of Max being wrong.

You cannot provide any examples of Max failing to understand something.