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Who is Elizabeth Warren?

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 07:00 am
Warren is not a 'centrist'. She was left of Obama, remember? And Obama was a centrist.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 09:29 am
@Olivier5,
Who would trust anything you say, Olivier?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 11:28 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Who would trust anything you say, Olivier?

Smart people.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 12:06 pm
@Olivier5,
You don't know any smart people, nor do you hang around any smart people, O.

Smart people don't deny reality. Smart people can explain how 1500F WTC fires managed to melt WTCs 1, 2 & 7 structural steel. Smart people demand evidence not run away like cowards.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 08:43 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
And Obama was a centrist.


Obama was, like all other usa prezes since WWII, a war criminal.

It would be interesting to see if E Warren or Bernie could complete their terms as prez and not continue the usa prez war criminal streak.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 12:44 am
@JTT,
You wouldn't recognize "smart" if it bit your arse.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 01:31 am
@Olivier5,
There is no point in engaging with zealots, they hate everything.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 09:36 am
@glitterbag,
Why do you, a mere DOD stenographer, keep calling NYC firefighters and first responders liars, glitterbag?

New York firefighters will recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [NEW YORK POST, 3/3/2004]

As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O’Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, “was dripping from the molten steel.” [KNIGHT RIDDER, 5/29/2002]
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 09:39 am
@Olivier5,
I recognize that WTCs 1, 2 & 7 molten/vaporized structural steel means that the usa governments lies about 9-11 are just that, lies.

Any dolt knows that jet fuel/office fires, which burned at 1200 to 1300F cannot melt steel, Olivier.

How come you don't know this?
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 10:23 am
@glitterbag,
The phenomenon of 'hyper skeptism' or 'arch deniers' exerts a certain atraction on me. I'm curious about why some people keep denying the glaringly obvious... It's probably unhealthy on my side to get fixated on them, I agree, but there something that beats me there, I can't really make much sense of all this obsessive banging of heads.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 10:41 am
Back to Liz...

At rally, Warren decries Trump as 'corruption in the flesh'

By STEVE PEOPLES and WILL WEISSERT, Associated Press, Sep 17, 2019, 3:10 AM ET
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/wireStory/warren-offers-anti-corruption-plan-central-campaign-65636842

Facing thousands of cheering supporters in the nation's largest city [NYC], Democratic presidential contender Elizabeth Warren on Monday decried President Donald Trump as "corruption in the flesh" and outlined her plans to root out corruption in the White House, Congress and courts.

"Corruption has put our planet at risk. Corruption has broken our economy. And corruption is breaking our democracy," said Warren, a Massachusetts senator who has emerged as a leading presidential contender.

While aggressive, the message was a familiar one. Warren has embraced corruption as a central campaign theme from the beginning of her 2020 presidential bid. But rarely has Warren addressed such a crowd with such a symbolic backdrop.

The crowd — which exceeded 20,000 people, according to the Warren campaign — filled almost the entirety of the 10-acre (4-hectare) Washington Square Park, wrapping around a massive fountain and clogging the pathways that connect the street chess games to the classrooms of New York University to the giant marble arch the downtown park is best known for.

It was a younger audience, racially diverse and packed with women. One of the biggest applause lines of the night: "We're not here tonight because of famous arches or famous men. In fact, we're not here because of men at all."

The event was set close to the site of the Triangle Shirtwaist Co. fire, which killed more than 140 workers in 1911.

She framed those deaths as the direct result of corruption. Many women died because factory owners neglected safety features to save money, with the implicit support of local elected officials who declined to intervene.

Warren charged that the same thing is happening today.

"Giant corporations have bought off our government," she said.

Specifically, her anti-corruption plan would "end lobbying as we know it" by instituting a lifetime ban on members of Congress and White House Cabinet secretaries from ever becoming lobbyists. At the same time, corporate lobbyists would be blocked from working for the federal government.

Both practices are common today.

She also would prohibit federal judges from avoiding misconduct investigations by leaving their posts, prevent courts from sealing settlements in public health and safety cases and ban class-action waivers for all cases involving employment, consumer protection, antitrust and civil rights.

And taking direct aim at issues involving the Trump administration, Warren would require candidates for public office to post their tax returns online. Presidents, Cabinet secretaries and members of Congress would also be prohibited from owning businesses on the side.

Trump, of course, has refused to release his tax returns years after promising to do so, and the Trump organization continues to do business around the world.

"Donald Trump is corruption in the flesh," Warren said. "He is sworn to serve the people of the United States, but he serves only himself and his partners in corruption." Warren noted, however, that Trump is only a symptom of the corruption that has infected the U.S. political and economic systems.

Warren has long argued that the nation's modern government only works for "the wealthy and the well-connected" like big energy, health care and insurance companies that employ lobbyists to advance their priorities over the best interests of ordinary citizens.

She wrote that popular policies championed by the Democratic Party's progressive wing — and many in its crowded field of presidential hopefuls — like universal child care, an overhaul of the federal criminal justice system, gun reform and plans to promote affordable housing have been "stymied because giant corporations and billionaires who don't want to pay taxes or follow any rules use their money and influence to stand in the way."

Warren's campaign noted that she already proposed a series of anti-corruption measures in Congress last year, but it says the proposal released Monday goes further.

Warren has emerged as a central player in the broader fight for the direction of the Democratic Party in the age of Trump.

Like her Democratic rival Bernie Sanders, Warren is demanding transformational change that Trump and his allies deride as socialism. Warren and Sanders are up against Democratic front-runner Joe Biden, a favorite of the party's establishment wing.

Warren didn't identify any of her Democratic opponents by name.

She noted, however, that "too many politicians in both parties have convinced themselves that playing the money-for-influence game is the only way to get things done."

Warren doesn't participate in high-dollar fundraising events as a 2020 candidate, though she did before launching her presidential campaign.

On Monday, looking out at the swelling crowd, Warren noted that she typically takes selfies with everyone who wants one at her events.

"Tonight is a little something different," Warren said.

© 2019 ABC News Internet Ventures. All rights reserved.

JTT
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 03:14 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Back to Liz...


Because you know you are totally out to lunch on the US governments official conspiracy theory and that you are a usa government schizophrenic conspiracy theorist without a speck of evidence to support your drivel.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 11:56 pm
@Olivier5,
I understand the fascination, I really do. There are times I wish I could penetrate or unravel the tortured thought process of some people. It's taken me many years to learn how to disengage from nutbags. I'm the person in the waiting room who makes brief eye contact and nods to be polite than that poor soul sits next to me and launches into a tale of woe or their life story (usually a tale of woe) or the special case of the "Viet Nam Vet" who wants to tell me about the PTSD he has from his time in "NAM'...but he's 50 years old meaning he was 5 years old when we left Viet Nam. I don't know if they are just sad, or lonely or disturbed...but I do know once you make one sympathetic sound you are trapped for 2 hours. Honestly, I wish I could help.....but I can't, I don't have the training to deal properly with unusual people.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 06:09 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
It's taken me many years to learn how to disengage from nutbags.

What's hard for me to accept is that you can't do a thing. They're just in their own little private version of hell and you can't help them out of it. Maybe for them it's heaven...
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:06 am
@glitterbag,
Well over 3,000 professional architects and engineers, glitter, who state that WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were blown up. A four year forensic engineering study by a top usa building forensic engineer which also concludes that WTC7 was a controlled demolition. That study states categorically that the NIST WTC7 study has a ZERO chance of being correct.

So stop you silliness and try to address the science, the evidence. Have you got ANY evidence for YOUR conspiracy theory beliefs?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:09 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
What's hard for me to accept is that you can't do a thing. They're just in their own little private version of hell and you can't help them out of it.


Do you mean the well over 3,000 professional architects and engineers who know the three towers were blown up.

You really make yourself look the fool when you try to suggest that YOU know better than all these professionals, Olivier.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:13 am
I wish I was there, used to love Washington Park.

https://cdnph.upi.com/pv/upi/7c85ae39c25bbcbd900434a282626d6f/ELIZABETH-WARREN-SPEECH.jpg
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:14 am
@Olivier5,
Typical cowardly behavior from you, Olivier. And we all know why.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:17 am
@JTT,
Indeed, evrybody can understand that since I live in Rome, it's not easy for me to attend a meeting in New York City...
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 07:26 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Indeed, evrybody can understand that since I live in Rome, it's not easy for me to attend a meeting in New York City...


You really make yourself look the fool when you try to suggest that YOU know better than all these professionals, Olivier. And still you, and others, continue to pretend that all this irrefutable scientific evidence is coming from me.

You full well how patently dishonest you and your fellow travelers are being.
 

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