aren't most therapists a waste of space?

Well it's funny. it's OK for jdasham to post naive crap, but not me.
baseless rule you have there.

I have not said anything of yours is niaive - I have said a number of them are irrational. Niaive and Irrational two very different concepts.

No idea who Jdasham is, and the mere fact you think whoever that is, is somehow related to this conversation, is also irrational.

There is way too much here that is irrational. You should seek advice with your doctor.

i don't need any doctor. i'm just responding to two strangers' negativity with negativity. how else should it go down?

That is of course for you to decide.

That's the thing - the only person being negative, calling names / negatively labelling others, jumping to conclusions here - has been you. Added to that is, many of your replies have been irrational.

But on this thread - that is just me saying this to you - and after your aggression displayed towards both roger, and myself - I doubt anyone else would want to reply to you (that has more than one post on this forum). Hence my advice that you seek counsel elsewhere. But you appear to have ruled counsellors out, so who other than doctors does that leave?

lol. both roger and yourself have been continually snarky towards me. and for no real reason.
I don't see the issue then. if you're so "wise" then you'll know how to behave with strangers.

See, all I am doing is making suggestions and observations. For whatever reason - you see this as being snarky. Not once have I negatively labelled you, called you names, sworn at you, denigrated you, or anything else that could be seen as snarky. In fact I have been unfailingly polite to you, and very patient, despite your very obvious and continual aggression.

In case there is any misunderstanding -Behaviours are not the person . And behaviours sometimes have to be talked about for what they are. I have called specific behaviours of yours irrational - because they are. That doesn't make you a bad person, you may be a very nice person (as you are a stranger, I don't know)...all that means, is the nature of certain parts of your post, were irrational. There's no 'nice' way to say this, and when that continues, the only responsible thing to do is suggest they seek advice elsewhere.

This is what I suggest - that you seek advice elsewhere regarding your post.

I've had a look at a number of your posts. You seem to be trying to fight with just about everyone that asks you a question, or comments in a way that does not fully agree with you. This isn't normal. It's very normal for people to ask questions on a forum, and for people to not fully agree. Questions rarely cause fight, and disagreement, unless severe rarely cause aggression.

Picking a fight with everyone who asks you are question or mildly disagrees with you is the very behaviour you frequently accuse others of - trying to bully people into silence (as you appear to want to hear only full agreement)

Other than the hypocrisy - which you may not understand, why do you visit a site where you fight with so many people? It wouldn't be healthy, for anyone.

Obviously I was half asleep when I wrote this. I meant "Questions rarely cause fights, an disagreements rarely cause aggression, unless the disagreement is quite severe."

it is if you're playing mental games on some random Web stranger.

I'm not playing mental games with you. But if that is what you fear - you do know that you can take away any possibility of mental games? All things you have accused me of, have associated behavioural indicators, and somewhat objective way to measure them:

- I listed some of those with 'aggression' (you can look up any third party independent website for verification, or read books relating to how to deal with aggression (which will give plenty of examples of aggression).

- The same for 'mind games' - you can read books on manipulative people (online sites are mostly about relationship mind games).

- or simply go and count the number of strangers you have accused of being against you on this forum.

- or you can see if I'm playing mind games by trying to list the associated behaviours, and the wording that makes you believe that mind games are being played (frequent appears of strangers to abuse you is not normal on this forum)

- Or I am more than happy for you to show this to a doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, professional mediator / negotiator, and ask their opinion on it. As many doctors (etc) unknown to you as you like, so there is no chance of bias on their part.

That is to say - you can verify this for yourself by going through a process to find out objectively, if I am playing mind games. After you go through such a process, you will find that I am not playing mind games. And of course, whether you choose to do this or not is up to you. I would encourage you to do this, but that is still up to you.

you've made numerous references and insinuations that i am mentally ill.
to many, in many cases, this would be wrong and inappropriate. why are you doing this to a "stranger" as you put it? UNless you can know my medical history, I don't see how or why you would know I am mentally ill.

It's evident, nay self-evident that you're playing some mental game for your own amusement.

I've stated outright that many comments you have made were irrational - because they were. Those aren't mind games - they are outright statements. It would be wrong and inappropriate of any person on a forum to pretend that your statements which were irrational, were rational. Not letting you know would not be helpful to you, at all.

As I've mentioned - I am more than happy for your to show this conversation to any professional in any field related to either the mind, communication, medicine, or mediation. Professionals will agree with me regarding the irrational statements you made. This isn't in doubt. You only need to ask some of them.

I am also happy for you to read books on manipulation (all mind games involve manipulation) and see if you can pick behaviours that match what they describe in the books - manipulative people use structures to their manipulation, and they are also motivated by their own feelings of smallness. Their own feelings of smallness affect all their areas of life. Books though are a little more problematic, because you interpret many things in irrational ways - but I'm hopeful they will help you come to a better understanding of what is a mind game, and what isn't a mind game.

As for other people finding saying these things difficult - that is because at heart, they don't respect / have some fear of / don't want to deal with people with mental illnesess, and are worried that will show through. I've had many people in my life with mental illness, including my mother, and my neighbours - it doesn't make them bad people - in fact they are quite nice, but have their problems. That is to say, I don't see any need to be disrespectful to them, or you.

Look thoroughly into how mind games work. Do plenty of reading on the subject. Look for their structures (they have a structure, and it will help you identify when a mind game is being played). I think it would be helpful.

you're some stranger trying to mess with me. why do you assume i must be content with this? how can you know if I'm mentally ill or not, based on some brief Web interactions? your accusations of me, when you don't know who I am, are just mind games. Plain and simple.

No one thinks you are mentally ill. I suspect most everyone thinks you are wonderful, and they want to be your friend. How can these poor wretches redeem themselves....frankly none of those people have the mental where-with-all to play mind games. I beg you to understand they are pitiful but you are magnificent, Signed, gb the unworthy

I'll probably just call you 'gb', for short.

Thank you Roger, ever the gentleman.

stop using probing language to people you don't know.
it's clear here that you're trying some game, just to **** around and be "powerful".

i suspect you don't have pleasant days. it's why you have spent this time trying to mentally **** with me. lol. i don't know you, so it's pretty funny to see this.

Ok, so the gist here is:

- random strangers try and play mind games on me, and try and implant **** into my mind, when i dopn't know them from Adam.

- it's not OK for me to post naive points when i'm a human and don't know it all.
- there is some "hidden rule" out there that i cannot do this, but then https://able2know.org/user/jgoldman10/topics/ but then because he is white and meets your standard, it's fine for him to post naive stuff and get away with it.

- you gain powers from trying to manipulate people into negative ways online, and possibly in real life too.

- you do this to express your dark personality, and possibly are very aggressive and projecting in real life.

- y0u do this also to try and feed whatever unhealthy impulses you have, and think people universally are fearful of you.

- you reckon that other adults fear you - which isn't the case. but then perhaps where you live.

- the issue here is your own bias and prejudices. and how you project these onto random Web strangers and the world at large.

- you mention mental illness often, again to try and **** with me, but then you don't even get the diagnostic criteria. it's not about being "nice" - it's about being in a happy mental state. Read the actual texts, and you'll see this is so.

so yeah - this situation in a nutshell. perhaps act like grown-ups, and don't project your morals or inner feelings of life.

Sir, I am a married woman who loves her husband and am as faithful as can be. I do not 'freep' with anyone outside of my vows and consider you to be a bounder for even suggesting such an abomination. I bid you adieu and will suggest you to get stuffed. That's the last time I will ever comment on what I thought were your positive attributes, you have disappointed me.......probably not as much as you have disgraced yourself...Shame on you.