Let's have a Hillary thread.

I can not believe you are defending his actions...

On the other hand, you are saying Clinton had little to no will power.

Perhaps that is why he let China get away with so much top-secret material.

Perhaps that's why he let Osama get away.

I say that's BS and I pity that you believe that's the way it is.

KW, obviously you do not believe Clinton to be anything short of a demi-god, so I won't discuss it with you anymore as it's pointless.

How many women did Clinton have to show his dick to before Monica? Apparently a lot.....Men of power should not be allowed to prey on weaker people for their sexual gratification. If you can not see that is wrong, there is no hope left and I will not continue this conversation.

Paula Jones told Hannity & Colmes cohost Alan Colmes in May 2000: "I will never pose nude for any men's magazine. Never. And that's all I have to say about that." Only five months later she was on CNN explaining why she chose to pose nude for Penthouse (the magazine which had five years earlier published snapshots taken by an ex-boyfriend of them cavorting nude). Jones revealed to Larry King: "Well, it was an adventure, it was something I usually don't do, but I don't think that they are -- they are not vulgar pictures, they are not disgusting pictures, I think they're very tasteful. And it was an adventure, it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing."

You should read Their Lives in which the lives of eight women who crossed romantic paths with Bill Clinton are examined in this innovative look at the former president. Extensive research and firsthand interviews document the intimidation and harassment that these women suffered after falling out of Clintons favor, in the process revealing a disturbing truth about the ideology of the president and his followers.

You should read Their Lives in which the lives of eight women who crossed romantic paths with Bill Clinton are examined in this innovative look at the former president. Extensive research and firsthand interviews document the intimidation and harassment that these women suffered after falling out of Clintons favor, in the process revealing a disturbing truth about the ideology of the president and his followers.

You should read Their Lives in which the lives of eight women who crossed romantic paths with Bill Clinton are examined.....

WASHINGTON -- An Arkansas state trooper who guarded then-Gov. Clinton says he confirmed falsehoods about Clinton's reported marital infidelities as part of a proposed tell-all book project, The New Yorker says.

Two other magazines also quote from an affidavit trooper Ronald Anderson gave to Clinton's lawyers in 1994 in which Anderson says a Clinton foe promised troopers high-paying jobs in exchange for their help in undermining Clinton.

The New Yorker, in its edition on newsstands today, said Anderson claims in the affidavit that in discussions with other troopers about a proposed book on Clinton's marital cheating he confirmed stories about the president even though he knew many "were nothing more than old fish tales, with little, if any, basis in fact."

He says in the affidavit that he participated in the deception because, after the 1992 Democratic Convention that nominated Clinton for the presidency, he thought his knowledge of candidate Clinton might prove profitable.

The New Yorker and Time magazine, in its latest edition, both quote Anderson as saying that Cliff Jackson, an Arkansas lawyer and longtime Clinton foe, offered the troopers jobs outside Arkansas for seven years for $100,000 a year in exchange for their cooperation in publicizing alleged Clinton scandals.

....[Clinton] continually denying, directly and indirectly, any such appointments, benefits, advancements, raises, promotions, positions, and perquisites to Plaintiff because she would not accede to Defendant Clinton's repeated solicitations of sex from her.

Plaintiff's claim that she was discouraged from applying for more attractive jobs and seeking reclassification at a higher pay grade within the AIDC does not demonstrate any "tangible" job detriment as she has not identified a single specific job which she desired or applied for at AIDC but which she had been discouraged from seeking. Pl.'s Depo. at 37-40. When asked for such specific information, plaintiff merely testified that the unidentified jobs she sought were "a grade higher" but that her supervisor "would always discourage me and make me believe that I could grow within the administrative services, which in fact I didn't. I got degrade - downgraded." Id. at 38, 42. She further states that those "few" times that she would talk to her supervisor and receive discouragement, she "would go ahead and fill out an application maybe or something." Id. at 41. There is no record of plaintiff ever applying for another job within AIDC, however, and the record shows that not only was plaintiff never downgraded, her position was reclassified upward from a Grade 9 classification to a Grade 11 classification, thereby increasing her annual wary.

I shall now post proof of the things I have stated in favor of Clinton.

First Troopergate-where four Arkansas state troopers guarding Clinton were offered bribes by wealthy Clinton hater Cliff Jackson to make up sexual escapedes by Clinton.

Associated Press wrote:

WASHINGTON -- An Arkansas state trooper who guarded then-Gov. Clinton says he confirmed falsehoods about Clinton's reported marital infidelities as part of a proposed tell-all book project, The New Yorker says.

Two other magazines also quote from an affidavit trooper Ronald Anderson gave to Clinton's lawyers in 1994 in which Anderson says a Clinton foe promised troopers high-paying jobs in exchange for their help in undermining Clinton.

The New Yorker, in its edition on newsstands today, said Anderson claims in the affidavit that in discussions with other troopers about a proposed book on Clinton's marital cheating he confirmed stories about the president even though he knew many "were nothing more than old fish tales, with little, if any, basis in fact."

He says in the affidavit that he participated in the deception because, after the 1992 Democratic Convention that nominated Clinton for the presidency, he thought his knowledge of candidate Clinton might prove profitable.

The New Yorker and Time magazine, in its latest edition, both quote Anderson as saying that Cliff Jackson, an Arkansas lawyer and longtime Clinton foe, offered the troopers jobs outside Arkansas for seven years for $100,000 a year in exchange for their cooperation in publicizing alleged Clinton scandals.

Source: Associated Press

Three other sources, however, confirmed the story. Two of those sources, Roger Perry and Cliff Jackson, told their stories in taped, on-the-record interviews. A third individual spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Perry provided the following account to Salon:

On a brisk fall day in 1993, Ferguson telephoned Perry and asked him to meet him meet him early the following morning on the golf course. There was something urgent they needed to discuss, but Ferguson refused to talk about it over the telephone.

"Danny was real paranoid back then," Perry recalled. "When he had something important he wanted to tell me, he would say, 'Let's meet on the golf course.'"

As they played a round of golf, Ferguson told Perry that President Clinton had recently called him from the Oval Office, offering him and Perry federal jobs if they did not talk to the press: "Danny said, 'I've talked to the governor. We still called him the governor even after he was elected president. And [Danny] said, 'He offered you a job if you won't do this.' On of them was a U.S. marshal's job in Kansas City, another was in Memphis and [a third in] Denver."

Then, according to Perry, Ferguson told him that he saw an opportunity for them to make a lot of money. "Let's ask Clinton for money," Perry said Ferguson told him. "I wonder what he would give us not to go forward."

"I said, 'Danny, my gosh.' And he said, 'This would be worth a lot of money to the Democratic Party.'"

According to Perry, Ferguson said he was sure that individuals close to the president would be willing to pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars for their silence.

"I was shocked," Perry recalled. "I said, 'My God, Danny, that's blackmail. Are you trying to blackmail the president?' Here's the president of the United States, and you're going to try something like this on him? My exact words to him were, 'Danny, you try to do this, and you'll end up in prison.' Here's a guy looking into the possibility of extortion and blackmail of the president of the United States."