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Let's have a Hillary thread.

 
 
Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 02:42 pm
I have looked through some of the old threads regarding HRC, and I was looking for some updated opinions and perspectives on her.
Seems BVT has stumbled on 2 as of late...I'm hoping to have some further contributions from both the left and the right on her status in American politics today, and her future (bright Idea , or dim Cool) as a democrat.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 08:32 pm
she's one of the few that i see around that i think would make a good president.

perhaps with bill richardson as v.p.

also, she's one of the few that i think could actually take an unusual ticket, i.e. mixed party, and not only win, but make it work and add a new dimension to the way our government works.

perhaps with mccain or powell.

or even have her enter as v.p.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 05:54 am
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
she's one of the few that i see around that i think would make a good president.

perhaps with bill richardson as v.p.

also, she's one of the few that i think could actually take an unusual ticket, i.e. mixed party, and not only win, but make it work and add a new dimension to the way our government works.

perhaps with mccain or powell.

or even have her enter as v.p.


I can totally see Clinton courting McCain for a Clinton/McCain ticket in '08. Probably with the same results as Kerry. If asked, Richardson might sign on, though.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 06:08 am
IMO she is the best that the Democrats have to offer. She will have to make that decision in 06. If she stands for senator from NY she will have to declare not to run for president in 08. If she does not living up to that promise would be a political liability that the republicans could and would exploit.
In any event, Hillary Clinton, president of the US sounds good to me.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 10:58 am
HRC is what was left in the pot after they brewed Hitler. Pol Pot and Kim Jung-Il.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 11:06 am
Didn't figure it would be long before you showed up to complain about your owners, McG.

I almost want her to win just so I can see the look on your, well, 'face.'

Cycloptichorn
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 12:05 pm
McGentrix wrote:
HRC is what was left in the pot after they brewed Hitler. Pol Pot and Kim Jung-Il.


source please.

Laughing
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 12:07 pm
McGentrix wrote:
HRC is what was left in the pot after they brewed Hitler. Pol Pot and Kim Jung-Il.


McGentrix...the walking talking typing breathing poster child for every trait he complains about in the left. :wink:
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 12:13 pm
JustWonders wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
she's one of the few that i see around that i think would make a good president.

perhaps with bill richardson as v.p.

also, she's one of the few that i think could actually take an unusual ticket, i.e. mixed party, and not only win, but make it work and add a new dimension to the way our government works.

perhaps with mccain or powell.

or even have her enter as v.p.


I can totally see Clinton courting McCain for a Clinton/McCain ticket in '08. Probably with the same results as Kerry. If asked, Richardson might sign on, though.


yep, i think bill would probably go for it. powell? dunno if he's really interested in reprising his role in the d.c. production of "westside story". still, i think he'd do a pretty good job in first or second chair.

the idea of a mixed ticket really fascinates me. it really would be a good start on digging ourselves out of the partisan hole we're in.

it's hurting us as a nation far more than obl ever could, imo.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 12:36 pm
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 04:28 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote
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also, she's one of the few that I think could actually take an unusual ticket, i.e. mixed party, and not only win, but make it work and add a new dimension to the way our government works.

perhaps with Mccain or Powell.


McCain yes for president or VP. Not Powell, for me he lost all creditability and displayed a lack of integrity during his stint as secretary of state during the first Bush administration.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 05:40 pm
au1929 wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote
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also, she's one of the few that I think could actually take an unusual ticket, i.e. mixed party, and not only win, but make it work and add a new dimension to the way our government works.

perhaps with Mccain or Powell.


McCain yes for president or VP. Not Powell, for me he lost all creditability and displayed a lack of integrity during his stint as secretary of state during the first Bush administration.


i go back and forth about that, depending on how curmudgeonly i'm feeling. "he's a team player". "he's a hack". it's been reprted that he wasn't into doing the show and tell, but pretty much was forced to do it.

makes my brain hurt, really. either way, he's gonna be dragging that albatross around for a good while.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2005 05:41 pm
McGentrix wrote:
HRC is what was left in the pot after they brewed Hitler. Pol Pot and Kim Jung-Il.


When I asked for opinions and perspectives from both sides, I was hoping to hear a bit more about why the right (or McG) has this opinion of her.
Whenever the left makes Hitlerian analogies of the current administration, we generally see a lot of these Rolling Eyes , followed by criticisms of the assertion.

Please explain why you view her as nothing more than a residue of some of history's monsters?
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 12:01 pm
Nothing more McG?
It's opinions like your that I was hoping to hear most.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 01:52 pm
I do not like Hillary. She is the ultimate political snake. She used her husband to get to Washington through a marriage of political need. Bill has had so many women go through his bed that I wonder if Hillary even has a vagina.

Everything she does and every move she makes is in a desperate, vain attempt to gain power for herself. Politicians should be selfless and have at least a tiny bit of concern for their constituents. Hillary cares nothing about anyone but herself.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 02:37 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I do not like Hillary. She is the ultimate political snake. She used her husband to get to Washington through a marriage of political need. Bill has had so many women go through his bed that I wonder if Hillary even has a vagina.

Everything she does and every move she makes is in a desperate, vain attempt to gain power for herself. Politicians should be selfless and have at least a tiny bit of concern for their constituents. Hillary cares nothing about anyone but herself.


so, mcg... what are ya really trying to say ? Laughing
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 02:57 pm
MGC wrote
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Politicians should be selfless.



Yes. They must emulate Delay,Cheney,Frist, and Bush. What egg did you hatch out of.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 03:02 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I do not like Hillary. She is the ultimate political snake. She used her husband to get to Washington through a marriage of political need. Bill has had so many women go through his bed that I wonder if Hillary even has a vagina.

Everything she does and every move she makes is in a desperate, vain attempt to gain power for herself. Politicians should be selfless and have at least a tiny bit of concern for their constituents. Hillary cares nothing about anyone but herself.


OK, that was better.

But would it be fair to say that every politician uses something or someone to make it up the ladder?
Kerry and Bush seem to be guilty as charged in that regard...how has HRC been bred differently?

What does her husband's infidelity or your speculative claims regarding on his infidelity have anything to do with her as a politician?

More importantly than how she got there is what is she doing now that she's there (wherever "there" is now or in the future).
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 03:14 pm
you don't get to be president by acting like mother theresa. if ya did, mother theresa would have been...

oh, never mind...
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2005 03:36 pm
Spit up my drink onto the monitor line number SIX:

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Politicians should be selfless and have at least a tiny bit of concern for their constituents.


I'm dialing Dick Cheney's office right now.

Joe(Yes, we have a fine crop of selfless servants of the people...)Nation
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