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94% OF YOU BELIEVE DIANA WAS MURDERED

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 05:57 pm
not a mug, it's a stein.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 06:06 pm
Ben Stein?


Don't that mean you got lotsa money?



I'm sure we can work something out.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 06:59 pm
Isn't he a bit conservative?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:02 pm
Cash is cash . . .
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 10:12 pm
I have not read very much about the accident but remember that the French police ultimately blamed the driver because post mortem showed a high level of alcohol. Did the bodyguard who survived sue anybody?
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syntinen
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 04:24 am
Quote:
She was still young. What if she had further children and started a rival "royal" lineage?

Hunh? She couldn't possibly have started a "rival royal lineage", except by marrying another royal. If she had married Dodi Fayed and had his children all they would have had a claim to would have been Harrods.

The best argument against the conspiracy-by-the-Royal-Family theory is that if she had carried on the way she was going, diligently sticking pins in her ex-husband and in-laws while living the high life on the luxury yachts of sleazy Egyptian businessmen, in a few years she would have started (even with the most expensive beauty care) to look like a mean raddled embittered old cow, and her fans would have lost interest. It's only her tragic death while still young and beautiful that has made her legend unassailable.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 04:29 am
The driver, Henri Paul, was found to have high levels of alcohol in his blood. And so much carbon monoxide that he should have been, theoretically, unconscious. Where did that come from?

Was this blood sample from the same man who was seen on camera a few minutes before the crash walking briskly back and forth in the lobby of the hotel and at one point bending down to tie his shoelaces?

Would Diana's bodyguard have allowed a paralytic drunk to drive the car, or ordered him out and driven himself if necessary?

No-one has been sued. There has been no inquest. The underpass was swept clean and opened for traffic later that same morning. The car was taken to a secure dump and apparantly abandoned.

Why no proper forensic examination of the crash scene and the car? Lets just recap a moment. The most famous woman in the world, mother of the future king, idolised by millions (but not me, I only became interested when she died) seen as a threat by some very influential people, is killed in a car accident, and they dont even bother to put the pieces together to find out what happened?

If it was a genuine accident which had the side effect of removing a problem, the first thing they would do is close that road off for weeks or months whilst every atom of evidence is gathered to prove conclusively to even the most jaundiced eye that it was indeed just a tragic accident, and not a murder.

The only witness besides the bodyguard who survived (and has said nothing memory loss aparantly) was the driver of a white Fiat Uno. He was found dead in a field in a burnt out car.

Of course this all conspiracy crap. There was a car accident, three people were killed, one happened to be Diana Princess of Wales. End of story. Er no actually its not. By law there must be an inquest.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 04:31 am
synt

I deliberately used inverted commas thus "" around the word royal.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 07:20 am
another interesting fact: 94% of Diana fans are also Barry Manilow fans
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 10:05 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

If it was a genuine accident which had the side effect of removing a problem, the first thing they would do is close that road off for weeks or months whilst every atom of evidence is gathered to prove conclusively to even the most jaundiced eye that it was indeed just a tragic accident,


Fatality or not, after the vehicles/cargo are removed, investigators have a max of 2 hours to clear a scene here. (we're in my work zone on this kinda thing)
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2005 10:23 am
I don't like her brother, that Earl whatsisface.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jun, 2005 05:15 am
ok ehbeth, take your point about clear up procedures. But this accident was unique. Ordinary people die in car smashes. The princess of Wales is not supposed to.

I just want a few answers to a few simple questions.

What accounts for the abnormally high level of carbon monoxide in Henri Paul's blood?

Why, nearly 8 years after the event has there been no inquest?

If Diana was alive at the crash scene, why did the ambulance take 40 minutes getting to hospital? (average speed 6 mph)

Why did the Queen say to Paul Burrel "there are forces in this country about which we know nothing"?
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jun, 2005 07:11 am
steve,
please don't lose any sleep over this
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jun, 2005 10:24 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
okI just want a few answers to a few simple questions.

What accounts for the abnormally high level of carbon monoxide in Henri Paul's blood?

Why, nearly 8 years after the event has there been no inquest?

If Diana was alive at the crash scene, why did the ambulance take 40 minutes getting to hospital? (average speed 6 mph)

Why did the Queen say to Paul Burrel "there are forces in this country about which we know nothing"?


1. unusually high by whose standards? doesn't seem odd based on what I've read about this case, and what I read in coroner's reports regularly

2. no need for an inquest. That is only done when they can't figure out how an accident happened, or how someone died.

3. depending on the exact nature of the injuries, that speed does not seem unusual.

4. don't know about what the Queen said to anyone, as I've never been in a room with her. <well, I have, but not relevant to this>

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There was a bad, stupid, accident. Several people died. It was a long time ago, and in the end there's nothing to fuss about.

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There was something in Los Angeles a couple of weeks (?) ago, where a photographer crashed his vehicle into Lindsay Lohan's vehicle while she was trying to get to police to report she was being chased. Doesn't seem the photographers are any more sensible than they were 8 years ago.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jun, 2005 05:55 am
well I'm not losing sleep over it but you have given poor answers to my questions ehbeth.

23% CO. By whose standards? Well if you are familiar with reading coroners reports perhaps you could say if someone who dies of a broken neck in a car smash would normally have this level of carbon monoxide? My contention is that this is absurd and it calls into question whether the blood sample was indeed from Paul, or whether it had been tampered with in some way.

Inquest. By UK law an inquest is necessary for all UK citizens who die abroad. It might be a formality, but it has to be held. Except aparantly if you die abroad and are the most famous woman in the world. Then they never get round to it.

Only once have I ever seen an ambulance travelling slowly with police escort, but even then it was doing considerably more than 6mph. But ok I might concede this point as not relevant.

Paul Burrel was Diana's butler. He was (so he claims) also her soul-mate. He took away for safe keeping many of her personal effects, including letters and notes in which she expressed fears for the future. Burrel was then charged with theft, but the charges dropped when it was clear he was acting with authority of the royal family. Anyway I forget the details but Burrel recounts in his book that at one stage the Queen told him directly that there were forces in the country "about which we know nothing".
It was a very odd thing to say.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jun, 2005 06:06 am
So how did the Queen know that?

Er, I mean, how could she say that.? Eh?

Er, I mean, how did she know enough to be able to say something if she didn't know anything about that thing she wasn't supposed to know anything about? Eh?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jun, 2005 06:10 am
ok you got me there McT

Smile
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Priamus
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jun, 2005 09:02 am
I don´t think Diana was murdered. It could have been done more discreetly.

Thanks
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 9 Jun, 2005 12:44 pm
and thank you priamus
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jun, 2005 09:12 am
Priamus wrote:
I don´t think Diana was murdered. It could have been done more discreetly.

Thanks


Not that I believe she was murdered, but as someone said, sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight.

If she was murdered, what better way to hide it by placing it right in front of the public and making it look like an accident? And what better way to make the general public ignore any suspicions than by getting crack pots spout out conspiracy theories and have dubious pieces of dubious evidence?
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