dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:15 pm
He can't afford the cut in pay.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:16 pm
They've apparently recently raised their journalistic standards. He may not remain qualified.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:17 pm
Good point . . . and my experience in the region suggests to me that he has no employment opportunities in Arkansas.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:19 pm
He's disbarred so he can't practice law. He may just have to be content making millions giving speeches every now and again.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:27 pm
I feel his pain, ya know ?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:29 pm
(Actually, Clinton agreed to give up his Arkansas law license for five years.)
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 01:32 pm
True. Clinton was disbarred by the US Supreme Court in October 2001.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 02:43 pm
yeah, yeah, yeah. i know, "clinton lied!"...

has nothing to do with it, but yeah. he lied.

equally, where he was parking the car had nothing to do with whitewater.
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 05:35 pm
Okay, someone needs to pay up from this mornings bet. Laughing

Quote:
McClellan Backs Away from Claims that 'Newsweek' Story Cost Afghan Lives

By E&P Staff

Published: May 24, 2005 1:10 PM ET

NEW YORK At a White House press briefing Monday, Press Secretary Scott McClellan, pressed by reporters and with Afghan President Karzai in disagreement, retreated on claims that Newsweek's retracted story on Koran abuse cost lives in Afghanistan.

He also claimed that he had never said it did, even though a check of transcripts disputes that. On May 16, for example, he said, "people have lost their lives." On May 17, he said, "People did lose their lives," and, "People lost their lives" due to the Newsweek report.

Here is the transcript from the latest White House press briefing:

Q: One other question. Karzai was quite definite in saying that he didn't believe that the violence in Afghanistan was directly tied to the Newsweek article about Koran desecration. Yet, from this podium, you have made that link. So --

McCLELLAN: Actually, I don't think you're actually characterizing what was said accurately.

Q: By whom?

McCLELLAN: As I said last week, and as President Karzai said today, and as General Myers had said previously, the protest may well have been pre-staged. The discredited report was damaging. It was used to incite violence. But those who espouse an ideology of hatred and oppression and murder don't need an excuse to incite violence. But the reports from the region showed how this story was used to incite violence.

Q: But Karzai seemed to think that that wasn't what led to the violence, that it was --

McCLELLAN: That's right, he actually -- he talked about -- President Karzai spoke about how the demonstrations were aimed at undercutting the progress being made toward democracy in Afghanistan, and the progress on elections. They have elections coming up soon. And I spoke about that, as well, last week.

Q: So could it be said that the Newsweek article played a role, but was not --

McCLELLAN: John, I think we've made our views known when it comes to the discredited report. There are some that want to continue to defend what is a discredited report that has been disavowed by Newsweek, and that's their business. We're perfectly willing to trust the American people to make their own judgment about it.

Q: Who's doing that, exactly?

McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q: Who wants to defend it?

McCLELLAN: Well, you can see in the media coverage, there are some that want to continue to do that.


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000930917
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 06:08 pm
How do these people sleep at night?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 06:15 pm
I cannot imagine why you would ask such a question, Mr. Mountie. They are getting, and have gotten for more than four years, exactly what they want.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 06:18 pm
It is, considering the young men and women being killed and crippled, physically and emotionally, about three steps down from child molester.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 06:22 pm
Ah, but they are the governing elite, and we the peasants. They are indispensible, and the rest of us mere deluded chattel. It's all very clear to me.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2005 08:31 pm
blatham wrote:
How do these people sleep at night?


it's the power of prayer, baby. Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 07:43 am
I would like everyone who talked about how irresponsible Newsweek was to back off of their story, now that the CiC of the Area, President Karzai, and yes, Scott Mclellan all agree that Newsweek didn't cause the riots that conservatives were so incensed over.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000930917

Quote:
McClellan Backs Away from Claims that 'Newsweek' Story Cost Afghan Lives

By E&P Staff

Published: May 24, 2005 1:10 PM ET

NEW YORK At a White House press briefing Monday, Press Secretary Scott McClellan, pressed by reporters and with Afghan President Karzai in disagreement, retreated on claims that Newsweek's retracted story on Koran abuse cost lives in Afghanistan.

He also claimed that he had never said it did, even though a check of transcripts disputes that. On May 16, for example, he said, "people have lost their lives." On May 17, he said, "People did lose their lives," and, "People lost their lives" due to the Newsweek report.

Here is the transcript from the latest White House press briefing:

Q: One other question. Karzai was quite definite in saying that he didn't believe that the violence in Afghanistan was directly tied to the Newsweek article about Koran desecration. Yet, from this podium, you have made that link. So --

McCLELLAN: Actually, I don't think you're actually characterizing what was said accurately.

Q: By whom?

McCLELLAN: As I said last week, and as President Karzai said today, and as General Myers had said previously, the protest may well have been pre-staged. The discredited report was damaging. It was used to incite violence. But those who espouse an ideology of hatred and oppression and murder don't need an excuse to incite violence. But the reports from the region showed how this story was used to incite violence.

Q: But Karzai seemed to think that that wasn't what led to the violence, that it was --

McCLELLAN: That's right, he actually -- he talked about -- President Karzai spoke about how the demonstrations were aimed at undercutting the progress being made toward democracy in Afghanistan, and the progress on elections. They have elections coming up soon. And I spoke about that, as well, last week.

Q: So could it be said that the Newsweek article played a role, but was not --

McCLELLAN: John, I think we've made our views known when it comes to the discredited report. There are some that want to continue to defend what is a discredited report that has been disavowed by Newsweek, and that's their business. We're perfectly willing to trust the American people to make their own judgment about it.

Q: Who's doing that, exactly?

McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q: Who wants to defend it?

McCLELLAN: Well, you can see in the media coverage, there are some that want to continue to do that.


There was a lot of vitriol thrown out here by Republicans, who apparently relied on a single source for their information as to who caused the riots in Afghanistan. In the future, perhaps there should be better editorial control by said Republicans rather than just believing an anonymous source and declaring it as true.

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 08:36 am
Thanks for posting that again, Cyclops .... you know, for those that might have missed it the first time when squinney posted it about 6 posts ago.

Or are you going for that "repetition" tactic you leftists keep accusing the Republicans of using?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 09:02 am
No comment on the content, I see.

I AM one of the people who missed it 6 posts ago, yaknow...


Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 09:11 am
You are anxious to have a comment from me on the content?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 09:32 am
I'm not familiar with your personal history on the subject, as I haven't studied yer posts, but I would think that those who yelled mightily about how Newsweek was responsible for deaths in the ME should belly up to the table and have a nice time eating some crow. Or perhaps a slice of Humble Pie.

No intention of singling you out, of course; if you aren't part of the aforementioned group, please disregard my admonishments and go about yer way in peace

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 10:22 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I'm not familiar with your personal history on the subject, as I haven't studied yer posts, but I would think that those who yelled mightily about how Newsweek was responsible for deaths in the ME should belly up to the table and have a nice time eating some crow. Or perhaps a slice of Humble Pie.

No intention of singling you out, of course; if you aren't part of the aforementioned group, please disregard my admonishments and go about yer way in peace

Cycloptichorn


I think my focus was more on criticizing Newsweek for sloppy journalism, using unreliable sources, being hypocritical and gung ho to embarrass the Bush Administration, etc. And on pointing out the hypocrisy of those who would accuse Bush of lying, but not Newsweek.
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