Newsweek Lied, People Died

You might not be aware of that, tico, but quite a few professionals earn their living by empathizing with terrorists, murderers and other criminals.

Is Carl Rogers now banned in the USA? You don't have probation officers any more? Social work is on the no-no list? ...

I'm not trying to score any points. You are very nearly my complete opposite -- politically speaking. I just like pointing that out whenever I can.



Hmm. Was that an attempt to earn "cheap points"?

Tsk tsk. The best liars mix lies with truth, which is what Bushco does.

In the end, one of us will be proven correct by history; want to lay odds on who it will be?

Cycloptichorn

I know where my money goes.

Who said it was bad? I've represented criminals in the past. Empathized with some, not with others. Chose not to ever represent a child molester or burglar.


It appears Lynne Stewart apparently empathized a bit too much, didn't she?

Let's just adopt a "wait and see" attitude, shall we?

tico

For someone else, I just posted three quotes. Can you identify the sources?

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There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and this will always be "the man in the street." Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology."


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Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.


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"The [leader's] aide said that guys like me [ie., reporters and commentators] were "in what we call the reality-based community,' which de desfined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

The first two are Joseph Goebbels and the third is a senior Bush official talking to Susskind.

You very helpfully supplied the answer at the bottom. Was that a tactic?

No, just being helpful.

The next time you see or hear independent media challenging the claims of the administration, or revealing information which will embarrass that government, or which will function in opposition to that government's wishes...and then you read on townhall, or hear O'Reilly and Limbaugh say that such independent media is functioning UNPATRIOTICALLY, re-read these three quotes.

Why would I do that?

Because it would show you just how fascist your arguments are?

Cycloptichorn

Goebbels wouild have had one of the world's easiest jobs in America in 2005. Our mainstream media ARE a bunch of unpatriatic, lying bastards. He wouldn't even have had to lie.

How odd you'd miss entirely - by 180 degrees - what goebbels is saying.

Yes, we know, gunga, you like it media to become 'guide dogs' instead of 'watchdogs!

That's a nice analogy, walter.

yo blatham. you forgot this one. it comes up every so often...

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," ... "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

snopesquotes


sound familiar?

Thanks DTOM!

At best, DTOM, your response is a sign of horrendous ignorance of history; at worst a stoking of anti-American sentiment. This only serves to fuel the gross trivialization of World War II and the Holocaust. Some posters here should be reprimanded and censured by the webmaster. Craven can best serve the strong reputation of this site by apologizing both to President Bush and the American people.

Copied and pasted with 'minor changes' from here.

Hey, I've got some quotes .... Who said each of the following:

(1) "I am concerned by any action which sends a signal that if you work for the government, you're above the law, or that not telling the truth to Congress, under oath, is somehow less serious than not telling the truth to some other body under oath."

(2) "I haven't been accused of doing anything wrong, and I haven't done anything wrong, and I'm not gonna do anything wrong."

(3) "If a President of the United States ever lied to the American people he should resign."

(4) "No question that an admission of making false statements to government officials and interfering with the FBI is an impeachable offense."

(5) "I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I am going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never. These allegations are false."

(6) "Still, I must take complete responsibility for all my actions, both public and private. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information. ... But I told the grand jury today and I say to you now that at no time did I ask anyone to lie, to hide or destroy evidence or to take any other unlawful action. ... I can only tell you I was motivated by many factors. First, by a desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct. ... I must put it right, and I am prepared to do whatever it takes to do so."











ANSWERS:


[size=8](1) Bill Clinton, as president elect, after the Iran-Contra pardons, December 1992

(2) Bill Clinton during a press conference; quoted from "The Clinton Chronicles."

(3) Bill Clinton in the summer of 1974, during his campaign to become a U.S. Representative from Arkansas.

(4) Bill Clinton, quoted in the Arkansas Gazette, August 8, 1974.

(5) Bill Clinton, 1998.

(6) Bill Clinton, 1998.[/size]

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Oh yeah, Slick Willy, favorite stalking horse of the right . . .

Say, i'll bet he could get a job at Newsweek in a heartbeat ! ! !