Ticomaya wrote:old europe wrote:Ticomaya wrote:It also doesn't mean we abdicate our right of self preservation. We aren't required to wait for the UN to allow us to act in our best interests.
Yep, agree. But the UN doesn't. Every nation has the right to defend itself against an attack. Now you might wish to tell me: when exactly did Iraq attack the United States?
You suggest we must wait for Iraq to attack the US. That is a view shared by our past President, and a good reason the terrorists grew stronger during the 90's - this failure to hold terrorist supporting states accountable. That is but one of many good reasons why Iraq was invaded ... but I've made this argument before, and you've heard it before, so we need not go into it here.
Quite obviously, your reasons have failed to impress, Tico. Could it be because they are based on even bigger fabrications? Your circuitous logic is astonishing and your naivete [wish that it were so] is even more so. Please do go into these "many good reasons".
The facts are clear, the facts were clear two years ago, there were NO good reasons.
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IMPEACHMENT TIME: "FACTS WERE FIXED."
Thursday, May 5, 2005
By Greg Palast
Here it is. The smoking gun. The memo that has "IMPEACH HIM" written all over it.
The top-level government memo marked "SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL," dated eight months before Bush sent us into Iraq, following a closed meeting with the President, reads, "Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam through military action justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."
Read that again: "The intelligence and facts were being fixed...."
For years, after each damning report on BBC TV, viewers inevitably ask me, "Isn't this grounds for impeachment?" -- vote rigging, a blind eye to terror and the bin Ladens before 9-11, and so on. Evil, stupidity and self-dealing are shameful but not impeachable. What's needed is a "high crime or misdemeanor."
And if this ain't it, nothing is.
The memo uncovered this week by the Times, goes on to describe an elaborate plan by George Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to hoodwink the planet into supporting an attack on Iraq knowing full well the evidence for war was a phony.
A conspiracy to commit serial fraud is, under federal law, racketeering. However, the Mob's schemes never cost so many lives.
Here's more. "Bush had made up his mind to take military action. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."
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