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The Most Amazing News About WMD's

 
 
Montana
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 06:04 pm
pragmatic wrote:
Montana wrote:
Didn't you guys know that they shipped all the WMD's to Canada before they could find them?

Get with it people!


they? Who?


The Iraqis.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 06:10 pm
ahhh *taping the nose*
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 06:22 pm
pragmatic wrote:
ahhh *taping the nose*


Don't tape your nose, prag. You'll find it's difficult to breathe.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 06:41 pm
Ahh, so that's why I was suffocating. Thanks Merry A
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 09:27 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:
pragmatic wrote:
ahhh *taping the nose*


Don't tape your nose, prag. You'll find it's difficult to breathe.


Yeah , that's one of those Saddam toture techniques...one of the nicer ones.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 09:54 pm
and whats the other torture method? Getting a poor innocent kitty to suddenly take out a gun 10X its size and kill? Shocked

Ahh, LionTamer, you are cruel... :wink:
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 10:19 pm
pragmatic wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Which is it? PM or President? Are you asking a specific question? Which news item are you referring to? Rolling Eyes


Well considering that its not on the news anymore in Australia, it doesn't seem like such a big deal now. Does Canada have both PM and President?


Canada and Australia are both part of the Commonwealth. Think about it... does Australia have a President? We Canadians know that John Howard is the Prime Minister in Australia. We also knew that WMD would not be found.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2005 11:34 pm
And presumably the millions of Americans who believe that invading Iraq was the correct thing to do are also all liars.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 03:48 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
And presumably the millions of Americans who believe that invading Iraq was the correct thing to do are also all liars.


No, those would be called gullible or war mongers ;-)
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 03:57 am
Montana wrote:
No, those would be called gullible or war mongers ;-)


Laughing
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 04:59 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
And presumably the millions of Americans who believe that invading Iraq was the correct thing to do are also all liars.


I don't believe that anyone on this thread, so far, has said anything of the sort about the invasion of Iraq. The point made was about the motivation behind the invasion. And, yes, "war-monger" or not, "gullible" is certainly the right word.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 05:14 am
I just threw the war mongers in there because some could actually care less if there were WMD's or not. Those are the ones who have that "do as I say or I'll kick your ass" attitudes! I call them bullies!

I think gullible describes the majority.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 06:17 am
Montana wrote:
I just threw the war mongers in there because some could actually care less if there were WMD's or not. Those are the ones who have that "do as I say or I'll kick your ass" attitudes! I call them bullies!

I think gullible describes the majority.

When you use the word "gullible," you seem to be making the implicit and incorrect assumption that we believe what we believe because someone told us to. This most likely represents the liberal misconception that all of us believed in the invasion of Iraq because Bush told us to. In my own case, I supported Bush because he agreed with my own prior ideas about Iraq. My opinion about the subject didn't change at all because of anything Bush said or did.

In fact, based merely on the general history of the situation, there was enough chance that Hussein had not destroyed his WMD to pose an unacceptable risk. Hussein had had such weapons and development programs to continue to perfect them, had concealed the weapons, and had misled and frequently blocked the efforts of inspectors for years. Now we were to believe that Hussein, who badly wanted sanctions lifted, had destroyed the weapons, yet had failed to obtain any proof of it. It did not require gullibility to look at what was known and unknown at that time and conclude that the likelihood that WMD remained had to be resolved. On the contrary, it required stupidity to look at the history and think that the possibility Hussein retained WMD did not have to be considered a serious problem.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 06:43 am
I'm taking in to consideration that the inspecters were there and pulled out after not finding anything and the fact that they attacked anyway. I call that being trigger happy among other things!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 07:52 am
That an interesting consideration. Does it occur to you that it may be the wrong consideration though?

I do not recall ever hearing the weapons inspectors voluntarily leave because they found no evidence of WMD's. I recall them being blocked at every turn by Saddam's henchmen, I recall them being harassed, I recall them being fooled, mislead and misdirected, but I just can't seem to recall them being able to complete their job while Hussein was in power.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 07:59 am
What I heard was that Bush pulled them out before they were finished and they were none too happy about it!
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 08:58 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
And presumably the millions of Americans who believe that invading Iraq was the correct thing to do are also all liars.


Not liars... just misinformed Shocked
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 09:01 am
That's funny, I recall the weapons inspectors telling Bush that they needed more time. But they didn't get it.

Cycloptichorn
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 09:03 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
Montana wrote:
I just threw the war mongers in there because some could actually care less if there were WMD's or not. Those are the ones who have that "do as I say or I'll kick your ass" attitudes! I call them bullies!

I think gullible describes the majority.

When you use the word "gullible," you seem to be making the implicit and incorrect assumption that we believe what we believe because someone told us to. This most likely represents the liberal misconception that all of us believed in the invasion of Iraq because Bush told us to. In my own case, I supported Bush because he agreed with my own prior ideas about Iraq. My opinion about the subject didn't change at all because of anything Bush said or did.

In fact, based merely on the general history of the situation, there was enough chance that Hussein had not destroyed his WMD to pose an unacceptable risk. Hussein had had such weapons and development programs to continue to perfect them, had concealed the weapons, and had misled and frequently blocked the efforts of inspectors for years. Now we were to believe that Hussein, who badly wanted sanctions lifted, had destroyed the weapons, yet had failed to obtain any proof of it. It did not require gullibility to look at what was known and unknown at that time and conclude that the likelihood that WMD remained had to be resolved. On the contrary, it required stupidity to look at the history and think that the possibility Hussein retained WMD did not have to be considered a serious problem.


I just have one question. What about the WMD that the U.S. has? Is every other country wrong and America right? Is that what democracy is all about? Oops, that is 3 questions. Very Happy
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2005 09:05 am
McGentrix wrote:
That an interesting consideration. Does it occur to you that it may be the wrong consideration though?

I do not recall ever hearing the weapons inspectors voluntarily leave because they found no evidence of WMD's. I recall them being blocked at every turn by Saddam's henchmen, I recall them being harassed, I recall them being fooled, mislead and misdirected, but I just can't seem to recall them being able to complete their job while Hussein was in power.


Then why did they say they do not believe that Iraq has WMD? Were they bullied by the Iraqis?
Shocked
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