If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

To whom are you speaking ?

Well, fry my fritters!
There wuz a double poster here, and a noobie, too.
Next time I'll save his karma thing with the quote function.

Sure there was....

Honest! It had these buggy green bloodshot eyes!
And the third eye had teeth!

Hello Caesar,
This is a great question that the Bible can provide an answer for. It begins by revealing that the Hell that many have been taught about, with fire and torment, in fact is not what it teaches. It does this by informing us about what the condition we are in when we die. See Ecclesiastes 9 verses 5 and 10.

Apparently Ceasar did not survive the ides of April 2005. His whereabouts are still in the nether world created by his OP.

Jesus didn't die. If Jesus was divine it was a symbolic act. He knew he was God (for the sake fo arguement) consequently he knew he wouldn't just cease to exist. So he didn't die or make any sort of sacrifice.

I can understand your confusion. But really the Bible can set your mind at ease. For example, at Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, it shows that when a person dies they are conscious of nothing at all. Jesus revealed this to be true at John 11:11-14 where he likened Lazarus death to his being asleep.

An understandable misconception common to trinitarians. Then, to whom did he pray? How could he be said to be the first born of creation?

Perhaps it's because Jesus was just a prophet, a man, whom Christians institutionalized high above all other mortals. Just because certain words were written in the New and the Old Testament, doesn't mean for one iota that they are real and true. The Bible is taken literally on Faith, blindly, without questioning by many among us. Myriad hands participated in the writing of the Bible which has been translated from various languages beginning with Aramaic, Jesus' native language; there are many contradictions to be found in the Bible.

Such myths are what legends are made of. It is said those who described the acts of Jesus and claimed to have witnessed many miracles did not live during the life of Jesus, but the New Testament was composed at least 200 years after the death of this legendary "King of Kings."

BTW, there is a basic need inherent still in many of our kind to believe in the traditional God of the Old and or New Testament. Many of our kind still are unable to stand alone without their professed God which was born out of a need of dire necessity.

Would you mind fleshing out this statement with some research?

You are in error . The oldest known transcript takes us back to about 75 yrs after the death of Jesus, but that doesn't mean the story was created then, simply that is the oldest version . Many of the stories in the OT now have at least one version in the Dead Sea Scrolls .

Posted by hingehead in another forum earlier today:

Um, this undermines your argument as well.

You apparently enjoy thinking so.

Try reading the other points instead of just 3.

I did.

It's apparent that you didn't.

They are essentially correct.
Sure, the Jews did not invent Abrahamic religion. But Abrahamic religion is central to Hebrew faith.

The first point is in reference to Sheol being a morally neutral place contrary to your claim of it being "the grave."