If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

common Christian knowledge

try to keep in mind that the word knowledge indicates something knowable. As Antichrist are not named in scripture, it is mentioned even in the data you quote, all you can do is speculate.

How conscious must you be to know nothing?

Well, you're conscious. . .

You're talking in circles . . .

Sorry Infra, I don't mean to tread on any toes here, but the context is broader than these verses alone.

In the 88th Psalm, David was troubled, his esteem was low, he feared his worth to God was akin to that of the sons of Korah. He spoke of them in verse 5 as "the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand"
So David suggested they had been Forgotten, and that they would not receive anything more from God.

in this context, verse 11 does not talk of the dead as forgetting. rather it he calls it the land of forgetfulness (or oblivion). But in line with verse 5 it is God who does the forgetting of that place.

There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that antichrist, the man of sin, the son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ, and all that is called God.

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=antichrist_intro

InfraBlue wrote:

You're talking in circles . . .

Now that your assertions have turned to dust, circles are all there are left to talk about.

Smiley has provided the context of Psalm 11. And I have shown that whatever David was referring to, it could not be in opposition to Solomon's teaching in Ecclesiastes chapter 9.

Now is the time for you to slink away from the argument muttering words indicating you don't believe the Bible any way so it doesn't matter. That is your premise, right?

You're talking in circles . . .

Now that your assertions have turned to dust, circles are all there are left to talk about.

Says you, as you continue to avoid the terms being discussed.
You’d do all of us a favor by bowing out, taking with you your resorts to snide ad hominems because of the vacuity of your arguments, and letting Smiley do the talking for you.

Smiley has provided the context of Psalm 11. And I have shown that whatever David was referring to, it could not be in opposition to Solomon's teaching in Ecclesiastes chapter 9.

I’ve responded to your reading of Ecclesiastes 9 and Smiley’s conflation of Psalms 5 and 10 through 12, thank you.

Now is the time for you to slink away from the argument muttering words indicating you don't believe the Bible any way so it doesn't matter. That is your premise, right?

That’s your conclusion to the discussion of the terms at hand?
I’ve demonstrated that your dogma isn’t as cut and dried as you’d like it to appear, and you tell me to leave. Is that what Jehovah expects of his witnesses?

There is no mention of consciousness or the lack thereof in the passages you cite either. Ecclesiastes 9:5 refers to knowing nothing and being forgotten. This corresponds with Psalm 88:12 what with its reference to "the land of oblivion/forgetfulness." One must be conscious to be able to be oblivious/ to forget. The tenth passage is read within that context.

10 Do you show your wonders to the dead? Do those who are dead rise up and praise you? "Selah" 11 Is your love declared in the grave, your faithfulness in Destruction ? 12 Are your wonders known in the place of darkness, or your righteous deeds in the land of oblivion?

The world, then, is rife with antichrists.

I see no reason to conclude what you are concluding, but maybe my preconceived bias and your own are creating the difference in the way we read the text.

I have respect Infra for your perspective, even if I do not share it.