Should DeLay resign

Grey, all is Grey, except when it's grey/black or grey/white.

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You pale grey guys are killing me, no pun intended.

She said there is no reason
and the truth is plain to see,
that I wandered through my playing cards
would not let her be.
One of sixteen vestal virgins
who were leaving for the coast
and although my eyes were open
they might just as well been closed.

And so it was that later
as the miller told his tale
that her face at first just ghostly
turned a whiter shade of pale.

chiczaira wrote:

Those sho think they know all about the differences of killing in war and murder--all about the differences between a "just war" and an "unjust war" are invited to look at the GreatBooks section on War.

Most of the charges about collateral damage are nonsense,

In World War II, we bombed Dresden and caused a fire storm that killed at least 100,000 civilians>

Barbaric?
Ask the survivors we liberated from the Nazi Concentration camps.

Dresden was a town with no strategic,industrial,tactical,or commercial value as a target.
There were no troops there,no weapons plants,no railheads,and no military targets at all.
It did however have a Luftwaffe POW camp that held allied flyers that were shot down and captured.
They were housed in an old hog processing plant and pig farm.
Kurt Vonnegut got the title of his book "Slaughterhouse 5" from the number of the barracks he was assigned when he was a POW there.
There were no concentration camps anywhere within 175 mil7es of Dresden.

Yes, because, the DEATH IS THE SAME.

You can argue that the reasons behind it were just or not, in war or out, but none of that matters to the DEAD GUY.

Cycloptichorn

Okay so help me out on this one.

This American executive has been captured by the enemy. If they kill him, will it be a homicide because it's part of a war and therefore not illegal? Now the killers may be on the opposite side of the war from us but it's a war nonetheless. We know that because it's we who declared this war.

So is the guy a murder victim or a homicide casualty of war?

And at what point do we get so busy debating it that we forget first and foremost he's a human being?

All you experts help me out will ya?


http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/04/13/iraq.main/index.html

Okay so help me out on this one.

This American executive has been captured by the enemy. If they kill him, will it be a homicide because it's part of a war and therefore not illegal? Now the killers may be on the opposite side of the war from us but it's a war nonetheless. We know that because it's we who declared this war.

So is the guy a murder victim or a homicide casualty of war?

And at what point do we get so busy debating it that we forget first and foremost he's a human being?

All you experts help me out will ya?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/04/13/iraq.main/index.html

Yes, because, the DEATH IS THE SAME.

You can argue that the reasons behind it were just or not, in war or out, but none of that matters to the DEAD GUY.

Cycloptichorn

Whew!!!! Tico, MM, Cyclo, if you'll all agree that I'm right, just for now, (I know you don't really believe it) I'll treat everyone to cold Coronas and Hot wings. It's been a long day and time to put the weapons down. Tomorrow's another day.

Nah, my point, Tico, is to say that there are perceptions and judgements applied to determine whether something is fair/foul/crime/violation.

If you read back a few pages, you'll see that I am a proponent of the 'grey' view of interpreting law.

I didn't state my point well in the post you quoted and you were right to point that out to me.

Cycloptichorn

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

Whew!!!! Tico, MM, Cyclo, if you'll all agree that I'm right, just for now, (I know you don't really believe it) I'll treat everyone to cold Coronas and Hot wings. It's been a long day and time to put the weapons down. Tomorrow's another day.

Are these Hooter's wings?

Ticomaya wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

Whew!!!! Tico, MM, Cyclo, if you'll all agree that I'm right, just for now, (I know you don't really believe it) I'll treat everyone to cold Coronas and Hot wings. It's been a long day and time to put the weapons down. Tomorrow's another day.

Are these Hooter's wings?

and a side of succulent hot breasts :wink:

Mystery Man said

He VOLUNTARILY went into a known hot zone.
He knew that there were hostilities taking place,and he KNEW the risks.
IMHO,he is an idiot,and nothing more.
He KNEW the risks,he CHOSE to accept those risks,therefore he CHOSE to accept the consequences of his decision.
He is an idiot,and not a casualty of war.

All these things can apply to you, since you volunteered for the service, so tell me, are you an idiot or a disabled war hero?

Does that sound harsh or adversarial? I'm not trying to be. I'd like an honest answer.