Why we are not perfect

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God was treating A&E like those who know the difference between right and wrong/good and evil. God should have realized that knowing good from evil is knowledge. Without that knowledge your ignorant. Ignorant people are easily fooled. A&E were fooled by the serpent because of their ignorance, not because they were mean, disrespectful or deceitful. That's why it was so wrong of God to punish them.

In this story it God who is wrong; God who is guilty of unjust punishment.

xingu,

So are you saying then if your five year old child who ways playing in your front yard started wandering towards the street while you turned away for just a minute, after you'd told him not to go beyond a certain point, you would not punish him?

Ok, would you kick your child out of the house in shame for disobeying you, hephzibah.

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Ok, would you kick your child out of the house in shame for disobeying you, hephzibah.

Jason if my child was in a situation that I felt was dangerous I would remove him from the situation because I love him.

Real life, can you answer the questions?


"And do you think your 2-year old should've been kicked out of your house when he first ate the cookies you told him not to eat........?"

Well that settles it. Xingu and Jason are smarter than God.

xingu,

So are you saying then if your five year old child who ways playing in your front yard started wandering towards the street while you turned away for just a minute, after you'd told him not to go beyond a certain point, you would not punish him?

.........Like A&E children don't have the sense of right and wrong. Unlike A&E children can be taught this.....

Jason Proudmoore wrote:

Real life, can you answer the questions?


"And do you think your 2-year old should've been kicked out of your house when he first ate the cookies you told him not to eat........?"

Another ridiculous question from JP. Another reason I'm hoping that you don't teach children.

Please assure us that you find employment taking water samples from streams, or running a printing press, or anything far removed from kids. Please?

I would reprimand them if the situation merited it.

If it was something like say living on a busy street and they were unwilling to listen to my request to not play by the road I would move with them.

Or I would put of a fence so they couldn't play by the road.

Jason there is a yes and a no for this particular situation. Yes I would give them a consequence for disobeying me. However, no I would not move them away from me. I would choose to do what I would need to do to protect them. If that was moving out of that neighbor hood I would do that. If it was putting up a fence so they couldn't play by the road, I would do that.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds, Xingu?

hephzibah wrote:

Jason there is a yes and a no for this particular situation. Yes I would give them a consequence for disobeying me. However, no I would not move them away from me. I would choose to do what I would need to do to protect them. If that was moving out of that neighbor hood I would do that. If it was putting up a fence so they couldn't play by the road, I would do that.

That seems like the rational thing to do from a person who would love her children dearly. But would you recognize that your kids should not be blamed their entire lives for disobeying you when they could not distinguish what was right and what was wrong? (Don't choke on it. It's just a follow-up question.)

LOL! The only thing I usually choke on Jason is when other people put words in my mouth! Of course I would. And so does God. That's why He made the yearly sacrifice in the Old Testament and then sent Jesus to be the final sacrifice for all.

Thanks Jason. So how is it that my account of the bible can be considered inconsistant?

(heph ducks...)

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Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds, Xingu?

And why does this sound ridiculous? Children are taught right from wrong. A&E were perfect. They knew no wrong. Wrong came when they ate the apple.

Wrong, evil, bad; that wasn't known to them until the apple feast.

Why do you think A&E ate the apple? Because they were bad? Because they were evil? Because they were disrespectful?

They were none of these. They were ignorant and didn't know, like a child. God was a bad parent. He didn't teach them. He didn't make them understand and he didn't take the necessary precautions to prevent them from eating the apple.

And worse of all, God refused to accept responsibility for his mistakes.