Why we are not perfect

Jason Proudmoore wrote:

neologist wrote:

Jason Proudmoore wrote:

Hephzibah, as you read The Epic of Gilgamesh, can you get pen and paper and write down the references that are in the text, that are very familiar to you prior to reading the story?

And your proof that the Gilgamesh story predates the Noachian deluge is?

The actual rock tablets with the entire story of The Epic of Gilgamesh carved on them (not quite complete. some words have been missing due to aging); And many more ancient documents found throughout the years.

OK, and I have a hamster who can whistle Dixie.

Thank you. But you have failed to demonstrate how your 'rock tablets' prove the date of the Gilgamesh epic.

Just about the same as my proof of the hamster.

You have contended that the Gilgamesh epic predates the flood of Noah's day. I assert that the two accounts are of the same event and the biblical account is correct.

neologist wrote:

You have contended that the Gilgamesh epic predates the flood of Noah's day. I assert that the two accounts are of the same event and the biblical account is correct.

I welcome you to read The Epic of Gilgamesh, neologist. And then you compare it with Noah's story. You be the judge of that.

Jason Proudmoore wrote:

neologist wrote:

You have contended that the Gilgamesh epic predates the flood of Noah's day. I assert that the two accounts are of the same event and the biblical account is correct.

I welcome you to read The Epic of Gilgamesh, neologist. And then you compare it with Noah's story. You be the judge of that.

I'm not able to read it all. My mind begins revolting when subjected to polytheistic drivel. Sorry to offend any who worship Anu and Ishtar.

The DaVinci Code was interesting. ?

Beyond that, why should I read something which fails to make your point?

why don't you provide quotes that affirm that my analysis of the Bible is right?

Jason Proudmoore wrote:

why don't you provide quotes that affirm that my analysis of the Bible is right?

Jason,

Why don't you provide quotes from the Epic of Gilgamesh to prove Neo's point that it's bunk?

If your ... friend (molded in your own image) read the 24 pages I require him to read.....But he won't respond to reason, just like you

You may have skimmed the Bible, but you probably haven't read but a few portions of it thoroughly; and you certainly don't know it well.

As for you professed familiarly with Gilgamesh, you still have not been able to answer how many original complete copies of the Epic exist and how well do they agree with one another?

If your ... friend (molded in your own image) read the 24 pages I require him to read.....But he won't respond to reason, just like you

You 'require' him to read.

(BTW He ain't moldy, he's my brother.)

He'll respond to reason if you give him some.

Jason, I've been reading off and on all day. I've only managed to get to page eight. I printed off everything through the forest journey and have been highlighting things as I go along.

My mind is a little perplexed by this.

It is a very strange story to me. I see similarities I think you are talking about, yet I fail to see their relevance at this point.

I do have a couple of questions though. These tablets you talk about on page 20, where did they come from? Who found them?

How were they dated? (Meaning how do we know how old they are)

Do you believe this myth?

real life wrote:

You may have skimmed the Bible, but you probably haven't read but a few portions of it thoroughly; and you certainly don't know it well.

....what is it that you might know that I need to know about the Bible?..........

real life wrote:

(BTW He ain't moldy, he's my brother.)

I suspected that you two were related. What could've made me think of that…?

Wait until you get to the Great Flood.
Mind you, this is only one story. You still haven't read the Egyptian History of Creation (4th century B.C), The Babylonian Emuma Elish EPIC OF CREATION (2nd millennium B.C through 1st millennium B.C), or Isis and Osiris, many of Homer's work, and many more…well, if you want to see what I see, that is.

PS: I hope that you don't ask me where and how the Egyptian documents to these stories were found. I think it is obvious, no?

The same way they measure the age of any other document or piece of material…through Carbon 14 Dating, which is used to determine age of "ancient, organic, geologic, or archaeological specimens."

If I believe that the story was written that long ago, or if I think that such story was veridical? Yes, why not? I think that it is the date of the tablets. And Nooooo…I think that the guy existed, but he just wanted to be famous by including himself in all his mythological stories. That's all.

hephzibah wrote:

I do have a couple of questions though. These tablets you talk about on page 20, where did they come from? Who found them? ......How were they dated? (Meaning how do we know how old they are)

The same way they measure the age of any other document or piece of material…through Carbon 14 Dating, which is used to determine age of "ancient, organic, geologic, or archaeological specimens."...