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Florida to end "leftist totalitarianism" by "dictator profs"

 
 
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2005 03:52 am
chiczaira wrote:
Panzade says that "We have alll swallowed oppressive ways of being,m whether intentionally or not" is a statement which he is surprised I do not see the truth of.


I wonder if the professor who made the statement has also swallowed oppressive ways of being( she said ALL) thus making her statement Oppressive. I, for one, was tired of going into classes and being labeled a sexist or a racist when I observed that Tolerance was the key word except for those who did not accept the basic beliefs of the left. One of my roommates, a brilliant scholar, who later became a Supreme Court Clerk, is a fundamentalist. He has. of course, had difficulty in finding jobs that match his brilliance.

When the left say Diversity is needed, they mean, of course, more people like "us". They don't really believe in true "diversity".


most mods, progs and lefties believe in diversity. we just don't dig it at gunpoint.

if the right of center folks just wrap their head around that concept and drop the hostile holier, more american than thou yip yap, maybe things would go smoother.

as for your friend... most fundamentalists that i've encountered feel a need to tell you that they are fundamentalists in every conversation, business or pleasure. once is enough. and if my employer doesn't care to hear all about my love of guitars, well, that's not what he's paying me to talk about either.

your personal life is your personal life and your business life is... well, business.

quit whining...




( hey lola ! what number is that ??? :wink: )
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2005 03:55 am
blatham wrote:
Here is our Dennis Baxley,.."I'm here for Him," Baxley said, explaining his commitment to honor the Lord. "What I do must glorify and please Him. I see this job as a calling and believe my opportunity to serve here was providentially arranged."


and like all politicians, i'm sure he is sincere...
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2005 04:00 am
chiczaira wrote:
Panzade says that "We have alll swallowed oppressive ways of being,m whether intentionally or not" is a statement which he is surprised I do not see the truth of.


I wonder if the professor who made the statement has also swallowed oppressive ways of being( she said ALL) thus making her statement Oppressive. I, for one, was tired of going into classes and being labeled a sexist or a racist when I observed that Tolerance was the key word except for those who did not accept the basic beliefs of the left. One of my roommates, a brilliant scholar, who later became a Supreme Court Clerk, is a fundamentalist. He has. of course, had difficulty in finding jobs that match his brilliance.

When the left say Diversity is needed, they mean, of course, more people like "us". They don't really believe in true "diversity".


How about you? Fine if for every Christian professor taken on by universities in the US, the government mandates an equal proportion of Satanists? Or Buddhists? Or Muslims? That would increase diversity of religious views.

For every professor who argues the case that the resurrection of Jesus was a real historical event the government places another professor who brings forward evidence that Jesus was a transexual alien tunnel digger?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2005 04:51 am
Maybe we should post a notice in the front of every college catalog (uh, are colleges still using catalogs??... how about posting it at the top of the website home pages )
that says:

The usual practice of this place is the consideration of ideas.



Joe(Let them think about that awhile)Nation
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2005 11:00 am
chiczaira wrote:
.I wonder if the professor who made the statement has also swallowed oppressive ways of being( she said ALL) thus making her statement Oppressive.


If the professor is worthy she would realize that she is included in her statement. She would strive to help the class point out her own failings in this regard. One would hope her search for truth would not be subject to the political cadres administering higher learning. Think Cultural Revolution
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 08:08 am
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How about you? Fine if for every Christian professor taken on by universities in the US, the government mandates an equal proportion of Satanists? Or Buddhists? Or Muslims? That would increase diversity of religious views.


Finally someone realizes the growing plight of satanists nto being represented fairly in modern society.

I would agree with this ruling if it were not for the religious slant. There are both left and right professors and who force ideas down students and they should be kicked. The religous ideas (such as creationism) though is preposterous. I just as soon learn the old Norse tale of the cow licks the ice and clickety clackity (smoke and mirrors) boom! theres humans and view that as truth.
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Einherjar
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 12:08 pm
El-Diablo wrote:
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How about you? Fine if for every Christian professor taken on by universities in the US, the government mandates an equal proportion of Satanists? Or Buddhists? Or Muslims? That would increase diversity of religious views.


Finally someone realizes the growing plight of satanists nto being represented fairly in modern society.

I would agree with this ruling if it were not for the religious slant. There are both left and right professors and who force ideas down students and they should be kicked. The religous ideas (such as creationism) though is preposterous. I just as soon learn the old Norse tale of the cow licks the ice and clickety clackity (smoke and mirrors) boom! theres humans and view that as truth.


Hey, that's no Norse tale, you just made that up.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 01:39 pm
okay... what about the celtic version with the salmon and the cauldron and all ?? Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 01:41 pm
This whole thing is so f*ckin stupid.

Perhaps we should consider the rightwing bias in our more primary education; yaknow, the one that teaches every publicly schooled child in America that America is the best place on Earth and has never done anything wrong, nope.

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 06:09 pm
El-Diablo wrote:
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How about you? Fine if for every Christian professor taken on by universities in the US, the government mandates an equal proportion of Satanists? Or Buddhists? Or Muslims? That would increase diversity of religious views.


Finally someone realizes the growing plight of satanists nto being represented fairly in modern society.

I would agree with this ruling if it were not for the religious slant. There are both left and right professors and who force ideas down students and they should be kicked. The religous ideas (such as creationism) though is preposterous. I just as soon learn the old Norse tale of the cow licks the ice and clickety clackity (smoke and mirrors) boom! theres humans and view that as truth.


The sentence in red is the one you want to reflect upon. How do you know this to be so, in either case? In what proportion of student/professor interactions might such a thing happen? Do you think biology professors or english professors talk about political matters ever? Your physiology degree is half on muscles and half on conservative theory? I never once heard a professor try to force a political idea down anyones throat...not once. No other student in attendance with me ever mentioned such an event. No friend or family member has ever suggested that such happened to them. None of the people on this board who have cumulatively attended some hundred or two hundred years of university have forwarded any such account (that I have read, and this discussion has arisen many times before).

So, what is going on here? Why is the claim you make above (and that others make specifically claiming liberal bias) so commonly voiced?
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 06:09 pm
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This whole thing is so f*ckin stupid.

Perhaps we should consider the rightwing bias in our more primary education; yaknow, the one that teaches every publicly schooled child in America that America is the best place on Earth and has never done anything wrong, nope.


Nah my history books are so biased against European and American things. Half the book is how Europe fucked up the world and how we're all victims of European imperialism. It's a big Rolling Eyes but that's what we're going towards. It's been decided that in history, facts dont matter. Only themes. I'm still wondering what the **** is up with that.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 06:14 pm
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The sentence in red is the one you want to reflect upon. How do you know this to be so, in either case? In what proportion of student/professor interactions might such a thing happen? Do you think biology professors or english professors talk about political matters ever? Your physiology degree is half on muscles and half on conservative theory? I never once heard a professor try to force a political idea down anyones throat...not once. No other student in attendance with me ever mentioned such an event. No friend or family member has ever suggested that such happened to them. None of the people on this board who have cumulatively attended some hundred or two hundred years of university have forwarded any such account (that I have read, and this discussion has arisen many times before).

So, what is going on here? Why is the claim you make above (and that others make specifically claiming liberal bias) so commonly voiced?


I have only taken 2 college classes (I'm only in 11th grade) but I take a biology class at nearby FAU. My biology talks about biology 50% of the time and how Bush is horrible the other 50%. I don't really care because I usually agree with him but I can easily see why some could get mad. He's not jsut offering ideas he simply incorporating his political bias into every class. It's another big Rolling Eyes but whatever. Doesn't affect me.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 06:26 pm
El-Diablo wrote:
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The sentence in red is the one you want to reflect upon. How do you know this to be so, in either case? In what proportion of student/professor interactions might such a thing happen? Do you think biology professors or english professors talk about political matters ever? Your physiology degree is half on muscles and half on conservative theory? I never once heard a professor try to force a political idea down anyones throat...not once. No other student in attendance with me ever mentioned such an event. No friend or family member has ever suggested that such happened to them. None of the people on this board who have cumulatively attended some hundred or two hundred years of university have forwarded any such account (that I have read, and this discussion has arisen many times before).

So, what is going on here? Why is the claim you make above (and that others make specifically claiming liberal bias) so commonly voiced?


I have only taken 2 college classes (I'm only in 11th grade) but I take a biology class at nearby FAU. My biology talks about biology 50% of the time and how Bush is horrible the other 50%. I don't really care because I usually agree with him but I can easily see why some could get mad. He's not jsut offering ideas he simply incorporating his political bias into every class. It's another big Rolling Eyes but whatever. Doesn't affect me.

Frankly, I do not trust the accuracy of your claim. Could you please forward to me contact information for the educational institution along with the teacher/professors name. I will do nothing to jeopardize you personally (I have no idea who you are in any case). You can get the info to me by private message.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 06:47 pm
Sure FAU Boca Campus
Mr Brooks first name is William
the class is Biology Prinicples

He's not really controversial or anything adn he knows his stuff he jsut gets a little boiled over on certain politcal issues. So please dont do something rash about it lol (like file a complaint). He gave us his phone number but I never wrote it down because I'm not big on contacting teachers.

I'm only doin this because you seem to be attacking my credibility. Shocked
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:05 pm
Ooo, boy. Now Mr. Bill Brooks of FAU Boca Campus is in for it....
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chiczaira
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:13 pm
I am very much afraid that Mr. Blatham(who says he has never heard of a professor trying to force an idea on to a student) is not aware of the more sophisticated ploys. So called "freedom of speech" does not exist if it offends the "feelings" of some on the left. "Rednecks"; Fundamentalists, People who live in the "red states"; People who live in "flyover country" are all fair game..but......as Nat Hentoff( a longtime defender of freedom of speech for all reports:

quote: "At most colleges, it is the administration that sets up the code. Because there have been racist or sexist or homophobic tuants, anonymous notes or graffiti, the administration feels it must do something. The cheapest quickest way to demonstrate that it cares is to appear to suppress racist, sexist homophobic speech"


And how is this done?

Hentoff reports:

"Students at NYULaw School have said that they have had to censor themsleves in class. The kind of chilling atmosphere they describe was exemplified in a case assigned for a moot court competition which became subject to denunciation when a sizeable number of law students said it was too "offensive" and would hurt the feelings of gay and lesbian students. The case concerned a divorced father's attempt to gain custody of his children on the grounds that the mother had become a lesbian. It was against PC to represent the father."

Perhaps Mr.Blatham would like to hear of more documented cases of the left's almost complete hegemony over the world of ideas in our major universities. Free Speech is the prerogative of the PC world of the left.

Conservative ideas are anathema in most of our most influential Universities.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:15 pm
When did conservatives get to be such cry-babies?
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panzade
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:15 pm
Ooo, boy. Now Mr. Bill Brooks of FAU Boca Campus is in for it...."



I doubt it....and I think publishing this man's name is pretty darn reckless. Couldn't you two exchange e- mails?"
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chiczaira
 
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Reply Mon 28 Mar, 2005 11:31 pm
When did c`onservatives get to be such crybabies ?says Drew Dad.case

Apparently Drew Dad does not know that the case reported by Nat Hentoff about gay and lesbian students at NYU objecting to a moot court exercise which covered a case of a divorced father vis a vis his lesbian wife----because their "feelings" would be hurt, is "crybabyism" raised to the highest level.
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Brandy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Mar, 2005 12:51 am
Well here I go. My first post. I read it all and would it be safe to say those who are of the more liberal persuasion see no problem on college campuses? Or is it campi?

Chiczaira was quite right that in most colleges these days the student who wants a top grade better know the professor's politics before he or she writes his first paper. Music, fine arts, some of the math and sciences are pretty apolitical. But in any of the liberal arts curriculum, there is little room or support for any student with right leaning views. Of course students with no views at all don't notice nor do those who already think left. I had to learn the hard way.
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