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Prince Charles to marry his slag

 
 
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 10:12 am
I'm happy for Prince Charles; he is now married to someone he REALLY loves. And I consider Camilla MUCH MORE attractive than that glamour and publicity seeking neurotic, Diane.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 10:59 am
He could have married Camilla 35 years ago, if he wasn't
such a coward.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 11:06 am
Maybe his mother told him not to? I also wish they well. They seem much better suited.

I like the poem, Beth. Nice to add that allusion to the green fuse.

McTag -- well & succinctly put. At least if you have a royalty, you know where your wealthy class is & to an extent, what they are doing. I, for one, very much enjoyed the Queen's address to Parliament when they started up this year. So much idealism is nice to see in a public figure.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 03:36 pm
firefly wrote:
Count me among the party poopers.

I think Camilla looked lovely today.

You can also count me in that category. I'm no fan of the royalty, but I do not wish them any ill wind either. All this fuss over this wedding has stirred up discussion as to whether or not we should continue with the English monarchy as head of state for Canada. If it came down to a general vote as to continue or not, I would probably vote 'no'. My reasons are that the Governer General's office spends far too much of our taxpayers money on various things I believe we could do without.

What really irritates me are the personal attacks on how Charles, Camilla, or anyone else for that matter, looks like. What the heck is all that about, and what's it to you? It's your personal opinion.

I say, criticizing someone for what they have, or have not done, is fair. Doing the same as to their personal appearance is damn childish and immature. Sorry, I don't agree with that at all.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 04:09 pm
prince charles
http://www.monarchist.ca/charlesmillabanner.JPG

oh,oh, ehbeth seems to have joined the MONARCHIST LEAGUE OF CANADA . i bet she'll ask us to have several pictures of the royal family prominently displayed in our house .

i guess i'll have to thank the I O D E - IMPERIAL ORDER DAUGHTERS OF THE EMPIRE for ehbeth fascination with the royals. the IODE ladies and ehbeth were present when mrs h and i obtained our canadian citizenship and swore allegiance to the queen in 1965.

hbg (bowing head slightly to all, but mrs h refuses to courtsy)
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Ay Sontespli
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 04:36 pm
I have been following this thread for a few days now and all I can say is that I suppose Charles should have married Camilla right from the start and left Diana out of it. I think what happened to Diana was an absolute crime and am surprised that no one has had to pay for it.
I also think that Charles should be passed over in favour of Prince William.
And finally, I don't suppose Canada ought to remain under the English monarchy. And I agree with Reyn, the GG is certainly NOT a spendthrift! But, well, what about that Liberal sponsorship scandal? More of Canadians hard earned tax dollars being well spent!
And as a side note:
Do we even have pictures of the Queen in our public schools anymore? I remember back in the day when I attended elementary school the Queen's photo was prominently displayed by the office and we had to sing 'God Save the Queen' every morning followed by the Lord's prayer.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 04:48 pm
I'm not quite ready to join the monarchist league, but I'm always interested in any lifestyle that allows for magnificent hats.

<I'm still perusing hellomagazine.com - admiring all the hats>

http://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/2005/04/09/weddingfashions/


when I was about 14, this would have been my dream look

http://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/2005/04/09/weddingfashions/imgs/guests-dop7a.jpg
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 04:48 pm
ehBeth wrote:
One of the other forums I go to has a thread that follows good news.

It's hard to find good news, or even not bad news.

I'm with Dag - its good to have good news, but then have it be real news. There's been enough good news from around the world the past year - from the Ukraine, Georgia before that, Lebanon, even Kirghizia (with reservations). Good stuff happening down in Latin-America and however sad things still be, Afghanistan's now better off than it was a year ago. And despite the best efforts of radicals to obstruct it any which way, the first people crossed the Kashmir border between India and Pakistan last week. In Spain, the new goveernment has sorted through a bunch of good legislation on domestic violence, immigrant rights, the position of gays. And thats all real news.

God bless Camilla and may the two of 'em be happy together for the rest of their lives. But please have the "news" about them relegated to the royalty and gossip magazines again where it should be.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 05:48 pm
What a lovely picture of Charles and Camilla. I would not want to live under a monarch, but if I had no choice I would prefer one who has demonstrated his humanity, as Charles has.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 07:06 pm
prince charles
here is part of the congratulary speech by the queen :

" "Despite Becher's Brook and The Chair and all kinds of other terrible obstacles, my son has come through and I'm very proud and wish them well," said the Queen, making reference to some particularly treacherous jumps on the race course, prompting giggles from William and Harry.

"The couple have finally arrived in the winner's enclosure."

two horses got married ???


FROM THE "GLOBE AND MAIL"
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ConstitutionalGirl
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 08:55 pm
http://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/2005/04/09/weddingfashions/imgs/guests-dop10a.jpg This fashion looks better, than the rest of them.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 09:21 pm
Ay Sontespli wrote:

And as a side note:
Do we even have pictures of the Queen in our public schools anymore? I remember back in the day when I attended elementary school the Queen's photo was prominently displayed by the office and we had to sing 'God Save the Queen' every morning followed by the Lord's prayer.


You are showing your age :-)
You would be hard pressed to find a Canadian flag let alone a picture of the queen. As for the Lord's Prayer.. that left along with discipline, respect and good manners.

Used to be that running in the halls or chewing gum in class was what got you into trouble. Kicking in the doors and carrying knifes has replaced that.

BTW- I thought they looked like a happy coule that have finally been allowed to marry. Mommy dearest forbid it 30 years ago. However, heirs to the throne have been produced in the meantime.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 09:40 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Ay Sontespli wrote:

And as a side note:
Do we even have pictures of the Queen in our public schools anymore? I remember back in the day when I attended elementary school the Queen's photo was prominently displayed by the office and we had to sing 'God Save the Queen' every morning followed by the Lord's prayer.


You are showing your age :-)
You would be hard pressed to find a Canadian flag let alone a picture of the queen. As for the Lord's Prayer.. that left along with discipline, respect and good manners.

Used to be that running in the halls or chewing gum in class was what got you into trouble. Kicking in the doors and carrying knifes has replaced that.

BTW- I thought they looked like a happy coule that have finally been allowed to marry. Mommy dearest forbid it 30 years ago. However, heirs to the throne have been produced in the meantime.

Wow! This was nearly word for word how I was going to respond to Ay....haha! Ya stole my thunder, sir! :wink:

By the way, I see you have the same indecision as I did a while back as to "just the right avatar"! I gave up on that and just stuck with a plain "Reyn". Laughing
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 10:00 pm
Reyn wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Ay Sontespli wrote:

And as a side note:
Do we even have pictures of the Queen in our public schools anymore? I remember back in the day when I attended elementary school the Queen's photo was prominently displayed by the office and we had to sing 'God Save the Queen' every morning followed by the Lord's prayer.


You are showing your age :-)
You would be hard pressed to find a Canadian flag let alone a picture of the queen. As for the Lord's Prayer.. that left along with discipline, respect and good manners.

Used to be that running in the halls or chewing gum in class was what got you into trouble. Kicking in the doors and carrying knifes has replaced that.

BTW- I thought they looked like a happy coule that have finally been allowed to marry. Mommy dearest forbid it 30 years ago. However, heirs to the throne have been produced in the meantime.

Wow! This was nearly word for word how I was going to respond to Ay....haha! Ya stole my thunder, sir! :wink:

By the way, I see you have the same indecision as I did a while back as to "just the right avatar"! I gave up on that and just stuck with a plain "Reyn". Laughing


Thanks. I seem to change Avatars almost as much, or maybe more (I am not sure) than my socks. Sorry about your thunder Reyn. At least I didn't rain on your parade Laughing
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 10:11 pm
JLNobody wrote:
I'm happy for Prince Charles; he is now married to someone he REALLY loves. And I consider Camilla MUCH MORE attractive than that glamour and publicity seeking neurotic, Diane.


Your comment is simply unbelievable.

Charles failure to marry someone he really loves is nobody's fault but his own. He was the Prince of Wales, slated to become the King of England. He basically had the field wide open.

When he pursued her, Diana was 19 years old. That's the age of a sophomore in college. Charles was 32. Getting close to middle age. Charles was raised to be king, Diana was the outsider trying to fit in.

Yet you speak as if this situation was thrust on poor old Charles!!

The 32 year old Charles swept the 19 year old Diana off her feet, married her and then used her as window dressing while he got his jollies off with Camilla. And he didn't even try particularly hard to keep the affair under wraps.

And you see Charles as the sympathetic figure here?

Oh, brother. Rolling Eyes
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 10:17 pm
That's how I see it.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 11:30 pm
McTag wrote:
I think the cult of celebrity does not sit well with British royals....


Excuse me, but being a celebrity is the entire purpose of being a royal. That's why they exist-they have no other function anymore. They are there to give luster to events by their presence, to visit other countries as good will ambassadors even though they never discuss anything of any consequence, and to do things like appear at flood relief stations. That's what they are there for.

And ever since she came on the scene, Diana's presence seemed to add more luster to those events and she brought more sunshine on the scene than all the other royals combined. That's what got her in trouble with the Queen-that and having the bad judgment of having a bout of post-partum depression. Which incredibly went untreated.




McTag wrote:
...and Camilla will do really well as an ordinary woman who will avoid as much publicity as she can...

I'll say she'll avoid publicity. The thirty year affair she had with Charles effectively ended any hope that he will be looked up to as a popular King, assuming he even takes the throne-an assumption that is increasingly in doubt.

The Queen downplayed this ceremony as much as she could. The announcement was just a few weeks ago, the ceremony was kept largely private. It is fair to say that this is as small as a royal wedding can reasonably get.

It is rather plain that if it were up to the Queen, Charles would take Camilla to Vegas and get married in a five minute ceremony performed by an Elvis impersonator. But the British press would eat them up-so the Queen pretends to give this small ceremony a measure of limited approval.


McTag wrote:
...as did the late Queen Mother who was much loved and respected and little understood.

Unless the late Queen Mother got involved in some scandals which the press spashed across the front pages daily, I don't think there is much comparison between her and Camilla.

McTag wrote:
For that reason I think the monarchy will do very much better with Camilla on board.


Better than with Diana?

In an institution where the ability to connect with people and to convince them you care is the reason for existence, Diana was a shining light. The treatment of her was nothing less than a royal disgrace by any measure. Unless Charles really finds himself and comes up with some spectacular performances, he will be forever remembered as the 32 year old prince who set up his 19 year old bride for years of public humiliation-and watched as she overcame all that to become an internationally respected advocate for human causes while Charles became increasingly irrelevant in the international mind.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 11:37 pm
JLNobody wrote:
That's how I see it.


And you are entitled to do so.

I just don't see a shred of evidence that vindicates Charles' behavior at all.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2005 12:10 am
Hey, kelticwizard, I disagree with much of what you have to say but have little time to reply today.

Diana was a troubled person who went completely off her chump. Her brother is the same. They both had a terrible childhood, and were probably both damaged by that.
Diana was a magnetic and tragic figure who did much good, but for all her caring image much-publicised work for charity she did not leave a penny to charity in her will.
Still I agree, what happened to her should not have happened to anyone, but I'm not sure Chas is 100% to blame.
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2005 01:02 am
Diana was a typical young "Sloane Ranger" who, left to her own devices would have married some rich chinless wonder and lived out her life riding horses and arranging flowers in her Manor house somewhere.
She was picked by the Royals because a) She was a virgin, b) She had the right family pedigree, and was not one of the "great unwashed", and c) She would make an ideal "brood mare" for an heir and a spare.
The mistakes that she made were
a) to have the normal expectations of a young bride, i.e. to expect love, honour and companionship from her husband, and

b) she made the fatal error of being so succesful in her role, that she outshone the rest of the Royal family.

The Windsors are a truly ruthless bunch of over priviledged wierdos, who are possibly one of the most disfunctional families in the UK. People say that William will be different and I sincerely hope that he will be, because if things dont change soon, I feel that the people will totally turn against them.
If I had my way, I would set them up somewhere remote so that they could live in comfort without bothering anyone else. The UK could then open all of their Castles and palaces to the public, and would then make an absolute fortune from tourism, as opposed to paying out millions of pounds of taxpayers money to subsidise a bunch of chinless "Hooray Henrys".
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