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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 10:33 am
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 10:36 am
Oh, good. More governmental interference in people's private lives.

Joy.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 10:39 am
It's beginning to look like Frist is in both a coma and a vegatative state. Is recovery possible?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 10:45 am
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On Friday morning, some 40 people stood in front of her hospice in Florida, praying aloud and weeping in a designated area marked off by orange plastic fence. The protesters sang "What can wash away our sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus" and placed red roses on the fence.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 10:47 am
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The Florida House on Thursday passed a bill 78-37 to block the withholding of food and water from patients in a persistent vegetative state who did not leave specific instructions regarding their care. But hours later, the Senate defeated a different measure 21-16, and one of the nine Republicans voting against indicated that any further votes would be futile.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 12:56 pm
I welcome goverment interference in private life when the issue is whether to kill someone or not. Seems appropriate and reasonable.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:17 pm
so then i guess the government can intrude "the sanctity of marriage".

it's not logical to on one hand say that marriage is between "one man and one woman", and, that it is such a precious state of being that it must be defended against all attacks by the government...

only to then...

insist that the government turn around and attack the very state of being that exists between "the one man and one woman".

then the statement becomes "the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman, their respective parents, their children, their religious leader, his flock, other leaders and their flock, local politicians, state politicians, national politicians, circuit judges, state supreme judges, the supreme court (usa), all lawyers, all doctors, the media, millionaires, and, of course, tico and dtom"...

not much "sanctity" of any kind in that scenario.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:22 pm
I don't believe the government should be involved in the Shiavo case at all. It's nothing more than grandstanding for the constituents.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:24 pm
dyslexia wrote:
It's beginning to look like Frist is in both a coma and a vegatative state. Is recovery possible?


Laughing
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:28 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I welcome goverment interference in private life when the issue is whether to kill someone or not. Seems appropriate and reasonable.

Show me where the government has a compelling interest in this case.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:30 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
so then i guess the government can intrude "the sanctity of marriage".

it's not logical to on one hand say that marriage is between "one man and one woman", and, that it is such a precious state of being that it must be defended against all attacks by the government...

only to then...

insist that the government turn around and attack the very state of being that exists between "the one man and one woman".

then the statement becomes "the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman, their respective parents, their children, their religious leader, his flock, other leaders and their flock, local politicians, state politicians, national politicians, circuit judges, state supreme judges, the supreme court (usa), all lawyers, all doctors, the media, millionaires, and, of course, tico and dtom"...

not much "sanctity" of any kind in that scenario.


Very Happy

Was that directed to me, DTOM? I've read it several times now, and I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, or exactly what you are saying .... but it might just be all the cold medicine coursing through my veins, right now ...
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:30 pm
Let this be a lesson to everyone - get your living wills signed, sealed, and witnessed based on the laws in your state. Make sure copies go out to all immediate family members so everyone knows what you want.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:35 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I welcome goverment interference in private life when the issue is whether to kill someone or not. Seems appropriate and reasonable.

Show me where the government has a compelling interest in this case.


The Florida government has a very compelling interest .... I don't see that the US Congress does.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 01:35 pm
Green Witch wrote:
Let this be a lesson to everyone - get your living wills signed, sealed, and witnessed based on the laws in your state. Make sure copies go out to all immediate family members so everyone knows what you want.


ABSOLUTELY!
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:23 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I welcome goverment interference in private life when the issue is whether to kill someone or not. Seems appropriate and reasonable.

Show me where the government has a compelling interest in this case.

The government has a compelling interest in determining under what conditions someone may be euthanized. It may well be that the woman's husband has an ulterior motive, and the law should protect her from this possibility. She is perfectly healthy and is not being "allowed to die" but rather killed. The government certainly has an interest in determining when someone can be killed, and how the helpless of society are treated. There are many legal questions about this case that ought to be answered. Terri Schiavo has never been represented by council, even though she is the one whose food will now be witheld. Had her parents not existed, who would have spoken for her at all?

Asking the question which the poster did, in and of itself makes me wonder about the poster's capacity for empathy.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:27 pm
Perfectly healthy.

That poor woman.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:28 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
... She is perfectly healthy ...


you have a very strange definition of "perfect health". Rolling Eyes
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:30 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
... She is perfectly healthy ...


you have a very strange definition of "perfect health". Rolling Eyes

Do you believe that a brain damaged person cannot be described as healthy? She is certainly not on any form of life support. If she is not healthy, what disease do you claim that she has?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:31 pm
I believe a feeding tube is considered life support, as she will die without it.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2005 03:33 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
I believe a feeding tube is considered life support, as she will die without it.

You will die without food too. I do not believe that people who cannot feed themselves, of whom there are many, are customarily described as being on life support.
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