Progressives (Liberals)

You do know "spade" is a popular racial slur here, right??? As in "black as the ace of spades".

With all due respect: I don't think you have an opinion fully founded on what's "going on around here."

Grow up. Learn how to read. What I said was true.

You don't use the expression "call a spade a spade" in the US?

I think I get what Oliver was trying to say. (I didn't know spade was a racial slur, thanks for the information before I ever used it)

Oliver was trying to say when Obama was president, he should have been more forceful in expressing the Black Lives Matter movement in more forceful terms without getting into any specific cases. He could have, however, given who he was, A black President, given the "audacity" of Obama being a black President, if he was to stand up there running down the police, it would have had a negative effect in the movement. However, he did give several moving speeches concerning the racial injustice blacks faced and and in one such speech put it in personal terms and caught a lot of flack for doing so when he talked about Treyvon Martin. Obama never was a rabble rouser, it is not who is, nor who he was and I admired that from him. Not everything he did I agreed with, I never understood why in the world he didn't do anything at all concerning those who broke international laws during the Bush administration wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He did change the "enhanced interrogation." But he didn't go after the ones who was in charge of it and the ones who carried it out. He said we should move forward, I think he was wrong. But in general, he was a good president who honestly tried to be the best president he could be.

Not so much. Privately, so as to not be misunderstood.

There's an unmistakable version - "he's so blunt he calls a spade a n------!"

Welcome to the deep south.

Ok, didn't know that.

The French equivalent is: "call a cat a cat".

Okay, I read it.

Not sure what you found so meaningful in there.

And I like that one very much.

KY was divided during the civil war, my part was south but we still not as south say, Georgia or even the southern most part of Tennessee. On one side of my family, we had ancestors from Mississippi, but I think that was as south as we went. The other I think more or less has stayed in KY since they came here from France. Perhaps they even fought against the British, sorry Izzy. I would love to know some stories from way back then. I envy people who stories of their ancestors. Just chatting, sorry.

Yes.

He shed tears — in public. The fact that he didn't evince "rage" doesn't mean that he was insulated from emotional response. He took his job very seriously.

I live here for the chatting and the stories. Edgar is the best at it.

You are here to try and intimidate people, silence people, and flood the threads with lies and hate trying to get people to do the same. IMO.

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"I'm talking about the man in the mirror."

I agree Obama is a good man, and that he tried. I just thought he could have tried a bit more. You can see the BLM movement as both a response to police brutality and an expression of frustration with what "the audacity of a black president" was actually delivering in terms of justice for all. You're saying a black president's hands were tied on anything related to race, and maybe that's true. However, some people -- most probably including Obama himself -- hoped a black president could help black people face century-old injustice... They didn't elect him just to tick a box.

Wrong. Who have I silenced? I never thumb down anyone. I do not post lies. I do not promote hate and division with name calling or slurs. Period.

Tell me about it, my fourth great grandfather was Whig/Know Nothing Gov Charles Slaughter Morehead, pro-slavery and anti-secessionist, who was imprisoned by Abe Lincoln on no charges when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. It made for a split in the family still recognized when I was young.

How does anyone get four grandfathers?

They didn't elect him to be rabble rouser either. We knew what we were getting with Obama, he didn't hide himself. He simply has a different style, but he made good positive statements, and made them often and they made changes in the Justice department that got changed just as soon as he left. Most of the changes have to occur when the mood is turned with a good sized of our country of all races and I think we are finally there. They also occur at the state and local level. However, he spoke often about race and he actually did more than you are giving him credit for at the justice department. Police regulation and ordinances are at the state and local level.

That is a lie. Obama was not vetted by our media at all. His connections to Farakhan and his Communist upbringing were never known by the vast majority of Americans.

Try rewriting history some place else.